How long will this last before it becomes a flame war?
Yeah, good old Reagan... proved that union busting NEVER went out of style.
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And why do you feel that way, Houston? (That's if you want a discussion, that is. :D)
Well, he was the last president we had that I thought was presidential. Clinton was effective, sort of, but he never really made me think "Wow, that's the way a president should be". Carter, Bush 41, Bush 43, and especially Obama do not do it for me at all.
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And why do you feel that way, Houston? (That's if you want a discussion, that is. :D)Well, he was the last president we had that I thought was presidential. Clinton was effective, sort of, but he never really made me think "Wow, that's the way a president should be". Carter, Bush 41, Bush 43, and especially Obama do not do it for me at all.
QFT. I will throw Nixion and Ford in there as well.
And why do you feel that way, Houston? (That's if you want a discussion, that is. :D)Well, he was the last president we had that I thought was presidential. Clinton was effective, sort of, but he never really made me think "Wow, that's the way a president should be". Carter, Bush 41, Bush 43, and especially Obama do not do it for me at all.
From your mind, give us 8 or 9 key words or concepts that define Ronald Regan. This will help us understand your support, and why you miss him.
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And why do you feel that way, Houston? (That's if you want a discussion, that is. :D)Well, he was the last president we had that I thought was presidential. Clinton was effective, sort of, but he never really made me think "Wow, that's the way a president should be". Carter, Bush 41, Bush 43, and especially Obama do not do it for me at all.From your mind, give us 8 or 9 key words or concepts that define Ronald Regan. This will help us understand your support, and why you miss him.
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"My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." - Ronald Reagan
Lincoln was better.
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And why do you feel that way, Houston? (That's if you want a discussion, that is. :D)Well, he was the last president we had that I thought was presidential. Clinton was effective, sort of, but he never really made me think "Wow, that's the way a president should be". Carter, Bush 41, Bush 43, and especially Obama do not do it for me at all.From your mind, give us 8 or 9 key words or concepts that define Ronald Regan. This will help us understand your support, and why you miss him.
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"Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement." Ronald Reagan
As a counterpoint to the above:
Belligerent
Sloganeering
Figurehead
Nixon apologist
Potentially Senile
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I think what I liked most about Reagan is that he tried to include people in the political, decision-making process. If there was a difficult decision to be made, he got on television, and encouraged people to contact their representatives with their thoughts and opinions. I think if there's any quality that makes for a good president, it's that.
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RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8
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I miss Pierre Trudeau.
"I've been called worse things by better people." -- When it was reported to him that President Richard Nixon had called him an "a*@~$&&" (1971).
"Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt." -- Addressing the Press Club in Washington, D.C. (25 March 1969).
"We take the position that there is no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation." -- Comment in the Canadian House of Commons on the decriminalization of homosexuality (1967-12-22).
Lincoln was better.Lincoln was the best.
damn right.
Lincoln was better.Lincoln was the best.damn right.
Where are the Aqua Team when you need them.
(in reference to the title name):
Well that's your own fault, if you had practiced more you would have gotten him on the first shot.
And my favorite:
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Ronald Reagan
LOL
"Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement." Ronald Reagan
LOL +1
He got some good ones: "I have left orders to be awakened at any time in case of national emergency, even if I'm in a cabinet meeting." -Reagan
My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes. -Ronald Reagan
I miss Paul Keating former Prime Minister of Australia a no nonsense Labour man that reformed our economy and the primary reason we are not in a recession.
Reagan just scared the crap out of me - I spent most of my early teenage years waiting to die in a nuclear fireball.
Some quotes from Paul Keating
It was we who did the dispossessing. We took the traditional lands and smashed the traditional way of life. We brought the diseases. The alcohol. We committed the murders. We took the children from their mothers. We practised discrimination and exclusion. It was our ignorance and our prejudice. And our failure to imagine these things being done to us.
• 1992 The Redfern Speech, launching International Year of Indigenous Peoples
We will not adopt the fantastic hypocrisy of modern conservatism which preaches the values of families and communities, while conducting a direct assault on them through reduced wages and conditions and job security.
• Election campaign launch, February 14, 1996.
For John Howard to get to any high moral ground he would have to first climb out of the volcanic hole he's dug for himself over the last decade. You know, it's like one of those deep diamond mined holes in South Africa, you know, they're about a mile underground. He'd have to come a mile up to get to even equilibrium, let alone have any contest in morality with Kevin Rudd.
o ABC Radio interview, March 5, 2007.
I used to refer to him as Thallium, a slow acting dope
• Referring again to former Treasurer Peter Costello, 7.30 Report, August 6, 2008. 7.30 Report Interview
John Howard turned the prime ministership into something like a state police minister. He's at the scene of every crime, twice a day on radio, the guy did no thinking.
• Referring to former Prime Minister of Australia John Howard, 7.30 Report, August 6, 2008. 7.30 Report Interview
Hewson (Opposition leader): I ask the Prime Minister: if you are so confident about your view of Fightback, why will you not call an early election?
Keating: The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm out of this load of rubbish over a number of months. There will be no easy execution for you. You have perpetrated one of the great mischiefs on the Australian public with this thing, trying to rip away our social wage, trying to rip away the Australian values which we built in our society for over a century.
I like the Queen... and I think she liked me.
• In response to the controversy caused when Keating placed his hand on Queen Elizabeth II's back during her 1992 Australian tour.
And why do you feel that way, Houston? (That's if you want a discussion, that is. :D)Well, he was the last president we had that I thought was presidential. Clinton was effective, sort of, but he never really made me think "Wow, that's the way a president should be". Carter, Bush 41, Bush 43, and especially Obama do not do it for me at all.From your mind, give us 8 or 9 key words or concepts that define Ronald Regan. This will help us understand your support, and why you miss him.
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Here's eight or nine quotes from Reagan I dug up that explain why I miss him:
- Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty.
- Don't be afraid to see what you see.
- Facts are stubborn things.
- Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
- Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets.
- Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
- Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.
- Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
- Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
- Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them.
OK, so that was ten, but you can see why he earned the sorbiquet 'The Great Communicator'. Even Massachusetts voted for him in 1984.
Lincoln was better.Lincoln was the best.damn right.
Was he? He's responsible for the loss of over 600,000 lives the last I checked. He violated the constitution and his ranking officers were either incompetent or war criminals. He didn't win the war through skill but attrition. Sounds like a great guy.
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Was he? He's responsible for the loss of over 600,000 lives the last I checked. He violated the constitution and his ranking officers were either incompetent or war criminals. He didn't win the war through skill but attrition. Sounds like a great guy.Lincoln was better.Lincoln was the best.damn right.
What is intersting is he is held in such high regard for "freeing the slaves" when he had NO intention of doing so when elected (in fact, it seems the opposite was true). He WAS interested in using federal troops to force the states to pay higher tariffs, however. Seems that is what the "Civil War" was really about. Federal control and power.
It's odd how much they get mentioned together when Reagan wanted the opposite - the limiting of big government.
Yeah, good old Reagan... proved that union busting NEVER went out of style.Too bad he didn't bust more of them.
+1! including the teachers union. plus GM wouldn't have had to be placed under government control BUT the united auto workers union refused to go along with the reorganization so the government HAD to step in. Unions were needed long ago but not anymore.
I miss Firefly.
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So you miss Reagan because of his style, Houston?
Also, Historical Revisionism that tries to claim something other then Slavery as the cause of the American Civil War simply cannot be supported by evidence. Bringing up States Rights is interesting, given that the only issue around States Rights was the continued right to own slaves.
I liked Bush Sr. Reagan's 1st term was better than his 2nd.
Surgical use of armed force on an as-needed basis sits with me a lot better than selling arms to our enemies in order to finance drug dealers (either Reagan knew about Iran-Contra, and was thus a scumbag in my book, or else he didn't, and was thus too senile to lead).