I've searched through the posts looking for an answer but I can't find what I'm looking for. I need something explained to me...slowly apparently.
Why can a monk use a weapon (a monk weapon) to make FoB attacks but not use the special properties (cold iron, adamantine, + whatever, etc.) and damage of these weapons?
My GM says inorder to make an FoB attack I have to be either unarmed or armed with a special monk weapon, but still use fist damage and no special properties of these weapons. I've argueed with him about the fact that monks can strike with more than their hands, next time we game I'm going to convince him to see the light.
Anyway, am I way off base here? Can I use a adammtine nunchuka during an FoB and use its properties for DR and damage as well as any to hit bonuses?
And, in higher levels, would I use the increased damage afforded to me while FoBing with above nunchuka and its properties for DR? Or is that trying to make the best of two worlds?
Any help would be great.
My GM says inorder to make an FoB attack I have to be either unarmed or armed with a special monk weapon, but still use fist damage and no special properties of these weapons. I've argueed with him about the fact that monks can strike with more than their hands, next time we game I'm going to convince him to see the light.
Anyway, am I way off base here? Can I use a adammtine nunchuka during an FoB and use its properties for DR and damage as well as any to hit bonuses?
And, in higher levels, would I use the increased damage afforded to me while FoBing with above nunchuka and its properties for DR? Or is that trying to make the best of two worlds?
Any help would be great.
Does this help?
Example: You can flurry for 6 attacks. Your manufactured weapon is a +1 holy nunchuka
Attack roll 1: You use the +1 holy nunchuks- you get to do 1d6+1 damage + holy damage if applicable
Attack roll 2: Unarmed Strike- You get to do the base unarmed damage
Attack roll 3You use the +1 holy nunchuks- you get to do 1d6+1 damage + holy damage if applicable
Attack roll 4 Unarmed Strike- You get to do the base unarmed damage
Attack roll 5 You use the +1 holy nunchuks- you get to do 1d6+1 damage + holy damage if applicable
Attack roll 6 Unarmed Strike- You get to do the base unarmed damage
I read the description of flurry of blows and it does not imply in any way that you do not get any additional qualities of monk weapon... as long as they are indeed monk weapons they could be +2 adamantine flaming burst nunchuka
Does this help?
Example: You can flurry for 6 attacks. Your manufactured weapon is a +1 holy nunchuka
Attack roll 1: You use the +1 holy nunchuks- you get to do 1d6+1 damage + holy damage if applicable
Attack roll 2: Unarmed Strike- You get to do the base unarmed damage
Attack roll 3You use the +1 holy nunchuks- you get to do 1d6+1 damage + holy damage if applicable
Attack roll 4 Unarmed Strike- You get to do the base unarmed damage
Attack roll 5 You use the +1 holy nunchuks- you get to do 1d6+1 damage + holy damage if applicable
Attack roll 6 Unarmed Strike- You get to do the base unarmed damage
I am pretty sure if you really wanted to you can do all 6 of those attacks with the nunckuka
I am pretty sure if you really wanted to you can do all 6 of those attacks with the nunckuka
Does this help?
Example: You can flurry for 6 attacks. Your manufactured weapon is a +1 holy nunchuka
Attack roll 1: You use the +1 holy nunchuks- you get to do 1d6+1 damage + holy damage if applicable
Attack roll 2: Unarmed Strike- You get to do the base unarmed damage
Attack roll 3You use the +1 holy nunchuks- you get to do 1d6+1 damage + holy damage if applicable
Attack roll 4 Unarmed Strike- You get to do the base unarmed damage
Attack roll 5 You use the +1 holy nunchuks- you get to do 1d6+1 damage + holy damage if applicable
Attack roll 6 Unarmed Strike- You get to do the base unarmed damage
I know, but I thought the OP was saying his DM would not allow him to interchange them on top of the other nonsense.
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if you use monk weapons you attack with you monk attack bonus either normal or FOB but you use the weapon damage not unarmed attack damage. You also get ANY bonuses from the weapon as long as they are applicable.
you also can combine a mixture of attacks (monk weapons and unarmed attacks) in FOB in any order like Wraithstrike said even if you have both hands holding items be they weapons or anything since you can attack with feet elbows etc
as far as I can see you DM is playing it wrong or it may be a houserule - so your options are -
1) if its a houserule you can discuss this with him to try to change the rule but its his world so his rule can still stand
2) if it is not a houserule then he is playing it wrong & needs to be corrected that does not stop him from making it a houserule - see (1)
hope this helps
if you use monk weapons you attack with you monk attack bonus either normal or FOB but you use the weapon damage not unarmed attack damage. You also get ANY bonuses from the weapon as long as they are applicable.
you also can combine a mixture of attacks (monk weapons and unarmed attacks) in FOB in any order like Wraithstrike said even if you have both hands holding items be they weapons or anything since you can attack with feet elbows etc
as far as I can see you DM is playing it wrong or it may be a houserule - so your options are -
1) if its a houserule you can discuss this with him to try to change the rule but its his world so his rule can still stand
2) if it is not a houserule then he is playing it wrong & needs to be corrected that does not stop him from making it a houserule - see (1)hope this helps
It does help and thank you I think I've got it now.
I've searched through the posts looking for an answer but I can't find what I'm looking for. I need something explained to me...slowly apparently.
I'll type one it one letter at a time, using only one finger.
My GM says inorder to make an FoB attack I have to be either unarmed or armed with a special monk weapon, but still use fist damage and no special properties of these weapons.
That's not the official rule. If you use the weapon, you use the weapon. If not, you use the "unarmed strike weapon".
Your GM is either wrong or making a house rule.
Ask him which it is. (Since you have to be told things slowly, as you admitted, I'll add that you should be very tactful ;-P) If he got it wrong, ask him to use the official ruling now. If he made a houserule, ask him for his motives. That rule basically renders special weapon completely useless. It's like you paint pictures of weapons on your palms and slap people with it.
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