Why Does the Rogue Have a Jewel in her forehead?


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My daughter's 7 and just starting to take up pathfinder and she wants to know.


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Nothing like the curiosity inherent in young eyes, to pick out details that the rest of us take for granted. :-)


Yea. She's also fascinated with the tentacle-faced hounds on P. 222. I'm probably going to have to put them in an adventure, but not sure how I should stat them.

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Ornamentation. :)

Of course, you might not want to give her the idea. XD

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Preston Poulter wrote:
Yea. She's also fascinated with the tentacle-faced hounds on P. 222. I'm probably going to have to put them in an adventure, but not sure how I should stat them.

Use Displacer Beasts. She'll never know the difference.

As for Meri and her forehead-jewelry, the elves have a god specifically devoted to gems and crystals, and magical gems and crystals in particular. Perhaps it's an embedded ioun stone that takes up a mask slot?

Or maybe it's there for the same reason that pickpockets put dangly attention-grabbing things on the frames of their sunglasses, to draw attention away from their facial features and make it harder for witnesses to provide useful descriptions.

"I dinnae, she had a sparkly gem in her forehead! And then I woke up in a tub of ice with a bandage on me back, and a note saying that I needed to get to the temple quick, 'cause she'd nicked me kidney..."

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It's called a bindi and it's a common fashion accessory in some parts of your daughter's current world:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bindi_%28decoration%29

Though unspecified, it's either a fashion accessory from elvish culture and may have some significance there, or else it's a fashion accessory from some other culture in Golarian (human, orcish, gnomish, etc.) and the rogue picked it up because she's a bohemian and she likes trying new things.

And it was made out of a 50 GP marcasite and she's a rogue, so she knows that other rogues have a huge circumstance penalty to try to pickpocket anything she's wearing in the middle of her forehead.


Preston Poulter wrote:
Yea. She's also fascinated with the tentacle-faced hounds on P. 222. I'm probably going to have to put them in an adventure, but not sure how I should stat them.

The tentacle-faced hounds, called akata, are in the second adventure of the Second Darkness adventure path.

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Preston Poulter wrote:
Yea. She's also fascinated with the tentacle-faced hounds on P. 222. I'm probably going to have to put them in an adventure, but not sure how I should stat them.

These creatures, called akata, are statted up (for 3.5) in Pathfinder Adventure Path #15: Children of the Void.

Edit: Damn ninja Liliths...


IT'S NOT A TUMOUR!

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You can find the 3.5 Version of the Akata (tentacled hound thing) in Children of the Void - they shouldn't be to difficult to convert.
edit: O.K. took me to long to find the source, bad feytharn :(


Wow. Smart crew. Thanks everyone.

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yoda8myhead wrote:
Preston Poulter wrote:
Yea. She's also fascinated with the tentacle-faced hounds on P. 222. I'm probably going to have to put them in an adventure, but not sure how I should stat them.

These creatures, called akata, are statted up (for 3.5) in Pathfinder Adventure Path #15: Children of the Void.

Edit: Damn ninja Liliths...

What? :D *readies a cookie shuriken*


Her weapon selection was kinda funny. She saw all the daggers that Meri had and wanted them. I told her that she was an elf and was therefore proficient with the long sword, but kept saying, "No. I want daggers!"

Not quite sure the affinity.

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Preston Poulter wrote:

Her weapon selection was kinda funny. She saw all the daggers that Meri had and wanted them. I told her that she was an elf and was therefore proficient with the long sword, but kept saying, "No. I want daggers!"

Not quite sure the affinity.

I understand it quite well. Daggers are concealable and you can't throw longswords.

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Yup; the gem on her forehead is a fashion statement and the daggers are because she uses them as her ranged attack. Her name, btw, is Merisiel; she's got a character description on our blog somewhere (I lack the web-fu to provide a direct link to her writeup, alas...).

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Merisiel's introduction to the world.

Merisiel statted up for the Pathfinder RPG.


Lilith wrote:
Preston Poulter wrote:
Yea. She's also fascinated with the tentacle-faced hounds on P. 222. I'm probably going to have to put them in an adventure, but not sure how I should stat them.
The tentacle-faced hounds, called akata, are in the second adventure of the Second Darkness adventure path.

I see you're your old self again.

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KaeYoss wrote:
I see you're your old self again, (Lilith).

That's not even Lilith's "old self." That's her new avatar that she started using a couple years or so ago.

I'd like to take this opportunity, once again, to say it's the only really good Avatar change among the Lords of the Boards. (I still miss James Keegan's old hillbilly.)


KaeYoss wrote:
I see you're your old self again, (Lilith).

Yes, it's nice to have depth perception again. :)

W E Ray wrote:

That's not even Lilith's "old self." That's her new avatar that she started using a couple years or so ago.

I'd like to take this opportunity, once again, to say it's the only really good Avatar change among the Lords of the Boards. (I still miss James Keegan's old hillbilly.)

Yeah, once Iggwilv came up as an option, the Eberron drow soulknife just didn't fit anymore. :D

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Speaking of avatar's I got three James Jacobses on my windowsill that needs to be repainted and based for a lizard man army.


So Merisiel and Seoni both have stock in double-sided tape? XD

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Robert Emmerson calls Merisiel the 'Short-bus pinball of death', and got me started with that monicker, too. With her high ranks in Acrobatics, dagger flinging propensity, and 8 INT, that pretty much sums it up. She tumbles and throws, not scintillates at dinner parties.


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Daniel Moyer wrote:
So Merisiel and Seoni both have stock in double-sided tape? XD

Naah... just some -Sovereign Glue one dab is all it takes!


Gninjita wrote:
What? :D *readies a cookie shuriken*

You and I have the same avatar.

Does this mean we're destined to be mortal enemies or great friends?

*also readies a cookie shuriken*


Preston Poulter wrote:
My daughter's 7 and just starting to take up pathfinder and she wants to know.

The only plausible explanation is that she's a cyborg and the jewel is her power source.


If I didn't know that Paizo was pretty much not touching the XPH at the moment, I'd suggest that it might be a Third Eye of something or other...

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Disciple of Sakura wrote:
If I didn't know that Paizo was pretty much not touching the XPH at the moment, I'd suggest that it might be a Third Eye of something or other...

err well, with her INt and WIS I see she is not using such 3rd eye that much :P


Gavgoyle wrote:
Robert Emmerson calls Merisiel the 'Short-bus pinball of death', and got me started with that monicker, too. With her high ranks in Acrobatics, dagger flinging propensity, and 8 INT, that pretty much sums it up. She tumbles and throws, not scintillates at dinner parties.

Lolz

Awww...that's mean!

Wait, wait, that doesn't sound right.
According to the info on the Paizo blog, Merisiel has INT 10, which is average.

However, Lini, the druid, does have INT 8. Maybe that's what he was referring to?

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Shadow13.com wrote:
Gavgoyle wrote:
Robert Emmerson calls Merisiel the 'Short-bus pinball of death', and got me started with that monicker, too. With her high ranks in Acrobatics, dagger flinging propensity, and 8 INT, that pretty much sums it up. She tumbles and throws, not scintillates at dinner parties.

Lolz

Awww...that's mean!

Wait, wait, that doesn't sound right.
According to the info on the Paizo blog, Merisiel has INT 10, which is average.

However, Lini, the druid, does have INT 8. Maybe that's what he was referring to?

a 10 int for a human is effectively an 8 int for an elf. compared to elves, merisiel would be developmentally delayed.


Luminiere Solas wrote:
Shadow13.com wrote:
Gavgoyle wrote:
Robert Emmerson calls Merisiel the 'Short-bus pinball of death', and got me started with that monicker, too. With her high ranks in Acrobatics, dagger flinging propensity, and 8 INT, that pretty much sums it up. She tumbles and throws, not scintillates at dinner parties.

Lolz

Awww...that's mean!

Wait, wait, that doesn't sound right.
According to the info on the Paizo blog, Merisiel has INT 10, which is average.

However, Lini, the druid, does have INT 8. Maybe that's what he was referring to?

a 10 int for a human is effectively an 8 int for an elf. compared to elves, merisiel would be developmentally delayed.

Poor Merisiel...not the brightest Crayon in the box.

Maybe she's the "dumb blonde" stereotype?

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Shadow13.com wrote:
Luminiere Solas wrote:
Shadow13.com wrote:
Gavgoyle wrote:
Robert Emmerson calls Merisiel the 'Short-bus pinball of death', and got me started with that monicker, too. With her high ranks in Acrobatics, dagger flinging propensity, and 8 INT, that pretty much sums it up. She tumbles and throws, not scintillates at dinner parties.

Lolz

Awww...that's mean!

Wait, wait, that doesn't sound right.
According to the info on the Paizo blog, Merisiel has INT 10, which is average.

However, Lini, the druid, does have INT 8. Maybe that's what he was referring to?

a 10 int for a human is effectively an 8 int for an elf. compared to elves, merisiel would be developmentally delayed.

Poor Merisiel...not the brightest Crayon in the box.

Maybe she's the "dumb blonde" stereotype?

not all blondes are dumb, my mother is proof that blondes are smart, and that a degree says nothing about your skill. she is effectively the superaccountant of raleys. and the reason they're still in business. hopefully this dispels the dumb blonde steriotype.

back to Merisiel and her intellegence score

Merisiel is a developmentally delayed elf, which is actually average intellegence for a human. elves would possibly make jokes about her though. but she grew up in human society. so she probably hasn't known an elf to insult her.


Shadow13.com wrote:


Maybe she's the "dumb blonde" stereotype?

But she's not blonde.


"I'm not offended by dumb blonde jokes because I know that I'm not dumb. I also know I'm not blonde." - Dolly Parton

Love that quote

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KaeYoss wrote:
Shadow13.com wrote:
Maybe she's the "dumb blonde" stereotype?
But she's not blonde.

Hard to say. I'd have to check the bathing scene again to be sure. :)

I did think it was a hoot that the first Iconic party consisted of three low intelligence casters / skillmonkeys and an Int 13 *Fighter.*

"Uh, yeah, the big dumb meatshield is also the brains of the party..."

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Set wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Shadow13.com wrote:
Maybe she's the "dumb blonde" stereotype?
But she's not blonde.

Hard to say. I'd have to check the bathing scene again to be sure. :)

I did think it was a hoot that the first Iconic party consisted of three low intelligence casters / skillmonkeys and an Int 13 *Fighter.*

"Uh, yeah, the big dumb meatshield is also the brains of the party..."

"I'm Roy Greenhilt, and I approve this message."


Set wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Shadow13.com wrote:
Maybe she's the "dumb blonde" stereotype?
But she's not blonde.

Hard to say. I'd have to check the bathing scene again to be sure. :)

I did think it was a hoot that the first Iconic party consisted of three low intelligence casters / skillmonkeys and an Int 13 *Fighter.*

"Uh, yeah, the big dumb meatshield is also the brains of the party..."

Hey that meatshield may have been booksmart, but tactical decisions are mostly wisdom based. The background story for Seoni talked deeply about her OCD-like tendencies, I would call her a tactician, pretty smart :D


Luminiere Solas wrote:
not all blondes are dumb

For sure. That's why it's a stereotype.

KaeYoss wrote:
But she's not blonde.

Platinum?


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Shadow13.com wrote:
Luminiere Solas wrote:
not all blondes are dumb

For sure. That's why it's a stereotype.

KaeYoss wrote:
But she's not blonde.
Platinum?

Better be careful about saying that around adventurers... she might end up bald.


Lokie wrote:
Better be careful about saying that around adventurers... she might end up bald.

What do you mean this handful of hair isn't worth 10 GP?

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The reason we made Merisiel have a low Intelligence is, primarily, because we wanted to turn on its head the cliche of the super smart elf.


James Jacobs wrote:
The reason we made Merisiel have a low Intelligence is, primarily, because we wanted to turn on its head the cliche of the super smart elf.

but some of us adore the cliche of the super smart and crafty rogue, regardless of race

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kyrt-ryder wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
The reason we made Merisiel have a low Intelligence is, primarily, because we wanted to turn on its head the cliche of the super smart elf.
but some of us adore the cliche of the super smart and crafty rogue, regardless of race

Yup! As do I.

But the uneducated and kinda goofy elf rogue is fun too!


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It's not a gem or ornamentation. It's a sling bullet from a honked off kobold that got in a lucky shot! :)

Also might be the cause of the INT 10...

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Xuttah wrote:

It's not a gem or ornamentation. It's a sling bullet from a honked off kobold that got in a lucky shot! :)

Also might be the cause of the INT 10...

no wonder she's called the Short Bus pinball of death.


Luminiere Solas wrote:
Xuttah wrote:

It's not a gem or ornamentation. It's a sling bullet from a honked off kobold that got in a lucky shot! :)

Also might be the cause of the INT 10...

no wonder she's called the Short Bus pinball of death.

do not insult the elf for lacking intellegence. she should be rewarded for breaking a steriotype.


Shuriken Nekogami wrote:
Luminiere Solas wrote:
Xuttah wrote:

It's not a gem or ornamentation. It's a sling bullet from a honked off kobold that got in a lucky shot! :)

Also might be the cause of the INT 10...

no wonder she's called the Short Bus pinball of death.
do not insult the elf for lacking intellegence. she should be rewarded for breaking a steriotype.

Her Merisiel, good job for being slow witted. Now please stop eating that glue stick.


Shadow13.com wrote:
Shuriken Nekogami wrote:
Luminiere Solas wrote:
Xuttah wrote:

It's not a gem or ornamentation. It's a sling bullet from a honked off kobold that got in a lucky shot! :)

Also might be the cause of the INT 10...

no wonder she's called the Short Bus pinball of death.
do not insult the elf for lacking intellegence. she should be rewarded for breaking a steriotype.
Her Merisiel, good job for being slow witted. Now please stop eating that glue stick.

i don't know any kindergarteners that didn't try to eat the glue stick or the paste, it was one or the other. in middle school i once ate a piece of white construction paper for 5 dollars. some kid said he'd pay me if i ate it so i did.


~grins~


Sharoth wrote:
~grins~

why are you grinning?

is it because i ate construction paper in the 6th grade?

is it because i'm asian, female and look really young for my age?

is it because i sit in grandmas basement gaming and forget to eat a balanced diet and am thus really darn small?

why are you grinning?

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