| Tensor |
Who is going to brave NaNoWriMo this year? It happens the month of November each year.
o The >NaNoWriMo< website.
o Funny >youtube< stuff.
| taig RPG Superstar 2012 |
taig wrote:I am seriously considering it.
I just have to find some discipline...
i need time :s
that the issue with me... life begins at 7 and ends at 7 :P with some other time for myself so its a complicated matter.
Yeah, I can see how that would be a problem. You'd basically be doing "life" stuff, then writing the rest of your waking hours.
| Ambrosia Slaad |
Who is going to brave NaNoWriMo this year?...
Maybe. I tried it a couple years ago, but gave up halfway through... some truly horrible writing. But I just rented Transformers II this morning, and I'm pretty sure anything I write this year has to be better than that sinkhole of utter excrement.
Or maybe write porn. Either way the bar is pretty low.
Montalve
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Montalve wrote:taig wrote:I am seriously considering it.
I just have to find some discipline...
i need time :s
that the issue with me... life begins at 7 and ends at 7 :P with some other time for myself so its a complicated matter.Yeah, I can see how that would be a problem. You'd basically be doing "life" stuff, then writing the rest of your waking hours.
the idea doesn't bother me THAT much, just no videogames... but my roleplaying games would suffer
besides :S i wouldn'tbe writing for the PF Chronicler for a moth, nor editing non nothing else :S
| Jason Fryer |
Thank you for sharing this. Indeed, this may be the kick-in-the-arse I needed. I've done something similar in the past. Cranked out three to six pages each day, every day for a month. The results were… questionable, but at least I had a ‘complete’ novel in front of me. It’ll be tough slogging though, but it’ll be worth it in the end.
Gary Teter
Senior Software Developer
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Sebastian
Bella Sara Charter Superscriber
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I'm going to do it too, but my goal will be to write 50k words here on Paizo in 30 days. Be prepared for an unending stream of veiled insults, condescending a&*$$+@ry, hollow threats, and general incomprehensible nonsense from yours truly.
In other words, just like my normal posts, but at a much higher volume.
| Kobold Catgirl |
Okay I am going to be honest I really don't see the point in this. I mean I have always felt writing should come naturally and because you want to tell a story Not because someone tells you to do it some random month.
Actually, the idea is that NaNoWriMo is a way to motivate yourself. It's sort of a 'quick and dirty' route: You write the novel as fast as you can, and you can edit it later. Where's the harm? It's fun, it helps us get the writing done, and you get the honor of having written 150 pages in a month.
LyingBastard (is that name allowed?): Actually, I believe it's 150 pages, and you CAN submit it to a publisher. The NaNo folks delete the story from their databases when the month is up.
Erik Mona
Chief Creative Officer, Publisher
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Okay I am going to be honest I really don't see the point in this. I mean I have always felt writing should come naturally and because you want to tell a story Not because someone tells you to do it some random month.
The point is discipline and getting off your ass and actually DOING it.
Which sometimes takes a clever gimmick.
| Kobold Catgirl |
Sorry still not getting it. I mean if you are having to wait for someone to tell you to do it in a month to get motivated to begin with Instead of being motivated by excitement for the actual story. well it just seems somewhat soulless to me
Dude, we wouldn't be doing it if we didn't enjoy writing. This is a fun group activity to do, I don't see why it needs more point than enjoyment.
/\You answered your own question, sort of. At least, the question you might have asked, 'why no prize', or 'why no proof'. This isn't a competition, if someone wants to parade around and say 'whoo I did it', good for them, but they won't get any pride from it unless they actually did it.
James Martin
RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32
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Sorry still not getting it. I mean if you are having to wait for someone to tell you to do it in a month to get motivated to begin with Instead of being motivated by excitement for the actual story. well it just seems somewhat soulless to me.
Edit as a sidenote is there actually a prize for doing this and is there actually anyway to prove that the writing you have done has all been within that one month?
Then you are definitely not the target market. Accept it.
| tdewitt274 |
Not trying to get this somewhat back on track or anything ; )
I'm not much of a writer. Never have been. However, it intrigues me. I can come up with character ideas, but I can't come up with a story idea if it came up and slapped me upside the head with a wrecking ball.
Is there something out there that has ideas for plots (probably the wrong word for it). To clarify, whole "this is why you're doing it" thing. The expansion of "Man vs Man", "Man vs Nature", etc. A "man abducts woman for a handsom bounty and will kill anyone that gets in the way of his profit." Maybe that wasn't clear, but if I at least could get some kind of idea, maybe then I could write an adventure...
Now, I'll say I didn't read up on the links, but I wonder how this would work in a programming/coding nature? I can code until my heart's content, but for each 10 "words" of code, I probably will end up with 5 "words" of actual content. Dang bugs and errors ; )
| Charles Evans 25 |
Kevin Mack:
As to the general philosophy of this event, a couple of points occur to me:
1) If you are a professional writer and your publisher says 'write me 50,000 words by the end of the month' then, unless your name is J.K. Rowling, I imagine that you have to write those 50,000 words by the end of the month or go hungry.... In that context, I suspect this could be good practice for those who have aspirations to some day be published.
2) Some people may have a yearning to write a novel but tend to defer it, and defer it, and defer it... and never get anything done without being set goals by an institution and format such as this.
How many of these words being written by hundreds of different people might actually be worth anything except to those who wrote them and their immediate circle of friends and relatives? Very few words I suspect. Does that mean that the time spent writing them is wasted? In my opinion not at all, so long as those doing it derive a sense of satisfaction, or something else from it. If nothing else, they could have spent all those hours doing something passive and brain-rotting, instead of actually having to sit and think.
| Charles Evans 25 |
Not trying to get this somewhat back on track or anything ; )
I'm not much of a writer. Never have been. However, it intrigues me. I can come up with character ideas, but I can't come up with a story idea if it came up and slapped me upside the head with a wrecking ball.
Is there something out there that has ideas for plots (probably the wrong word for it). To clarify, whole "this is why you're doing it" thing. The expansion of "Man vs Man", "Man vs Nature", etc. A "man abducts woman for a handsom bounty and will kill anyone that gets in the way of his profit." Maybe that wasn't clear, but if I at least could get some kind of idea, maybe then I could write an adventure...
Now, I'll say I didn't read up on the links, but I wonder how this would work in a programming/coding nature? I can code until my heart's content, but for each 10 "words" of code, I probably will end up with 5 "words" of actual content. Dang bugs and errors ; )
Can't help you with an adventure, but if you're writing a story then what about coming up with a bunch of characters and backgrounds, then stick them all in a tavern, toss a random event such as someone being assassinated at the next table into it, and see what happens from there? You don't know the overall scheme of things, but then hey, your characters don't either. Maybe it will turn into something resembling a mystery, and once you get to the end, you can go back and rewrite/edit bits to make more sense....
| tdewitt274 |
...then stick them all in a tavern, toss a random event such as someone being assassinated at the next table into it, and see what happens from there...
Actually, it's that kind of stuff I'm looking for. In the end, an adventure (RPG adventure) is an outline of a book. Everything that characters do is what makes it a novel.
I'm the kind of person that makes things a reality, a "doer". I don't come up with my own ideas, that's usually someone else or I find a need for something. I don't say "I'm going to make a widget that someone wants", I say ""I'm going to make a widget that someone needs".
| Charles Evans 25 |
Charles Evans 25 wrote:...then stick them all in a tavern, toss a random event such as someone being assassinated at the next table into it, and see what happens from there...
Actually, it's that kind of stuff I'm looking for. In the end, an adventure (RPG adventure) is an outline of a book. Everything that characters do is what makes it a novel.
I'm the kind of person that makes things a reality, a "doer". I don't come up with my own ideas, that's usually someone else or I find a need for something. I don't say "I'm going to make a widget that someone wants", I say ""I'm going to make a widget that someone needs".
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I'm unsure now that I have understood correctly what you're looking for?However I have an idea that James Jacobs has commented in chats and other places that Novel Writing for Publication and Adventure Writing for Publication are two very different beasts.
If you're looking for advice about writing an Adventure for Publication, I don't know that advice about writing a novel will carry over very well....
Even as an amateur I'm reasonably confident stringing together stories (silly or otherwise) in the novel/fiction sense, but my attempts to respond to Pathfinder Society Open Calls or RPG Superstar have frankly sucked beyond belief, and I simply ignore the open calls now because I recognise how out of my depth I am with the format. The two formats are looking for completely different things. I wish I could remember James Jacobs' exact description of the differences between the writing requirements, because I think it might be helpful here, and would be much clearer than any attempts I could make to explain them...
If you're looking for suggestions/help coming up with a publishable adventure to run under Pathfinder or some other RPG I think you might be best starting a thread specifically for it, rather than looking for novel-writing help.
Edit:
Possibly James Jacobs may have commented on novels versus adventure modules on one of the various Golarion fiction threads around the place.
But if you go away and look at books of adventure modules (or vice-versa) you'll be able to see that what is good in one format doesn't always cross over terribly well into the other, for one reason or another.
DM_aka_Dudemeister
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Plus, like, if people don't have a deadline, well.....they usually just try to get it done some time before they're actually dead.
Knowing me and Deadlines, I still would see if I could get an extension for another couple of weeks AFTER I'm dead. I rarely get the lead out until the deadline is RIGHT THERE.
That being said I'm giving NaNoWriMo a go this year, so wish me luck.
| tdewitt274 |
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I'm unsure now that I have understood correctly what you're looking for?
However I have an idea that James Jacobs has commented in chats and other places that Novel Writing for Publication and Adventure Writing for Publication are two very different beasts.
If you're looking for advice about writing an Adventure for Publication, I don't know that advice about writing a novel will carry over very well....
Even as an amateur I'm reasonably confident stringing together stories (silly or otherwise) in the novel/fiction sense, but my attempts to respond to Pathfinder Society Open Calls or RPG Superstar have frankly sucked beyond belief, and I simply ignore the open calls now because I recognise how out of my depth I am with the format. The two formats are looking for completely different things. I wish I could remember James Jacobs' exact description of the differences between the writing requirements, because I think it might be helpful here, and would be much clearer than any attempts I could make to explain them...
If you're looking for suggestions/help coming up with a publishable adventure to run under Pathfinder or some other RPG I think you might be best starting a thread specifically for it, rather than looking for novel-writing help.Edit:
Possibly James Jacobs may have commented on...
You have some good points. I may have to create a new string for this subject.
While my intents aren't for publication, mostly to entertain a group with a good adventure, it makes sense that the two aren't the same. The whole "coming up with an idea" is pretty much where I get stuck.
If there's something out there with archetypes (kidnapping, murder, overtrow the government, etc) for stories with suggestions on how to twist them so they aren't the same story, I'd pick it up in a second!
| Charles Evans 25 |
You have some good points. I may have to create a new string for this subject.
While my intents aren't for publication, mostly to entertain a group with a good adventure, it makes sense that the two aren't the same. The whole "coming up with an idea" is pretty much where I get stuck.
If there's something out there with archetypes (kidnapping, murder, overtrow the government, etc) for stories with suggestions on how to twist them so they aren't the same story, I'd pick it up in a second!
Try back issues of Dungeon, maybe. They had a 'Dungeoncraft' column at one time, and I would have thought that what you're asking about (or at least something very similar) might have been covered there at some point, or at least in another article.
| Curaigh |
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If there's something out there with archetypes (kidnapping, murder, overtrow the government, etc) for stories with suggestions on how to twist them so they aren't the same story, I'd pick it up in a second!
Actually there are places online just for this sort of thing. I might recommend posting something in the word games or gamer life sections with thread topic: kidnapping plot--needs help, and see who offers what.
This if from an email the NaNoWriMo autobot sent me:
Or, you can hang out in the genre forums. Pick the one you'd like to write and start reading the messages. There's nothing wrong with adopting and adapting someone else's idea. What are the chances your novel would be the same even based on the same initial idea really? I know my novels don't always end up quite where I meant for them to go, even when they are my own ideas.
And there's plenty of other stuff online. Go to link (that's the charity link for The Office of Letters and Light) and search "plot generator" to find many sites that will generate random plots. You may pick one, refresh it a few times, something outrageous or ridiculous will come up, and you'll have a sudden light bulb moment and know what to write about!
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Wow nice jump. Should get easier now, then harder, then easier then...