Aack why no Titan in the beastiary?
Just not enough room. There's a few dozen monsters that just wouldn't fit. That's what happens when you have thousands of cool monsters and a limited number of pages - you have to make some hard decisions about who stays and who waits. On the upside, we're really striving to make sure that all the MM monsters that didn't make it into Bestiary I make it into the sequel. So don't worry, just because monster X, Y, or Z didn't make it into the Bestiary that doesn't mean that we were like "Monster X, he's LAAAAAME! Kill 'em!", it just means he's on deck for what's next.
And in the Titan's case specifically, rest assured that we have something new and cool in mind, which I promise will be worth the wait!
Titan ...Storm Giant +10-20 everything! :D
My guess is, that in the book, titans will be advanced colossi.
Aack why no Titan in the beastiary?Just not enough room.
Priceless!!
So when is Bestiary 2?We have not yet announced Bestiary 2's release date.
Well, get crackin'!
There's also a PaizoCon 2010 date to announce. You can't let this work pile up, or you'll never get it under control, sir.
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hey, so, if there's no titan, who is going to go around crushing my philosopher's stones? I mean, not that there's really a point to crushing one, but it's the principle of the thing. Now I'm going to make a big mean wizard's castle made out of philosopher's stone, and nobody will ever be able to crush it!
Dilmax the Uncrushable Castle! A-ha-ha-haha-hah!
Just because there's no titan in the Bestiary doesn't mean there's no titans in the game itself.
Titans are never more dangerous than when they don't have stats.
Errata for the Core Rulebook: "Mattock of the Titans" is now "Mattock of a Really Big Guy Possibly Named Bob"
Aack why no Titan in the beastiary?
No, but we have cyclops now...
No, but we have cyclops now...
Just the one, eh?
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No, but we have cyclops now...
I would have mentioned the cyclops myself, if you hadn't beaten me to it!
When I first got into 3rd edition, I ranted a lot about what was missing from the MM, ESPECIALLY the cyclops.
(Well, maybe the Kenku also. I thought the Kenku had been used quite a bit during the 2E era.)
No, but we have cyclops now...Just the one, eh?
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Take a look at the book. If you look at the picture, he's alone. I stand by my previous statement. [/indignant English major]
No, but we have cyclops now...I would have mentioned the cyclops myself, if you hadn't beaten me to it!
When I first got into 3rd edition, I ranted a lot about what was missing from the MM, ESPECIALLY the cyclops.
(Well, maybe the Kenku also. I thought the Kenku had been used quite a bit during the 2E era.)
Well, considering all the other creatures from classical mythology that have been ubiquitous in D&D, the cyclops seemed a glaring omission. (And no, "cyclopskin" don't cut it.)
Well, we do have the Tengu...
Take a look at the book. If you look at the picture, he's alone. I stand by my previous statement. [/indignant English major]No, but we have cyclops now...Just the one, eh?
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I think tejón meant that you should have said "...we have THE cyclops now..." or "...we have A cyclops now..." if you meant it in the singular.
Of course, this is such a minor point, it scarcely seems worth explaining.
Or I could have used cyclopes, the plural. I just figured one snide comment deserved another.
Well, considering all the other creatures from classical mythology that have been ubiquitous in D&D, the cyclops seemed a glaring omission.
Exactly.
Of course, now people can say the same about Titans... except that the Titans of myth were basically gods.
A PF version of the titan is coming (sooner rather than later).
A PF version of the titan is coming (sooner rather than later).Paizo product or 3rd party product?
3rd Part (Paizo said earlier in this thread they have special plans for it in the Bestiary II).
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Errata for the Core Rulebook: "Mattock of the Titans" is now "Mattock of a Really Big Guy Possibly Named Bob"
Not needed. There's plenty of monsters mentioned or depicted in the core rulebook that don't yet have monster stats, be they the akatas shown on page 222 or the banshee in the spell "wail of the banshee." A canny reader might look at such mentions as monsters with a VERY HIGH chance of appearing in Bestiary 2...
Aack why no Titan in the beastiary?
I don't think I've ever seen anyone use a titan in a game.
Aack why no Titan in the beastiary?I don't think I've ever seen anyone use a titan in a game.
I've used titans all of twice. The first time it was an RP encounter where the titan provided some advice for the party, assuming they didn't tick her off.
The second was in Labyrinth of Madness...that was a heck of a fight.
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Aack why no Titan in the beastiary?... we're really striving to make sure that all the MM monsters that didn't make it into Bestiary I make it into the sequel. So don't worry....
Great then.. just make sure you guyz are not goin in the way as you did with the 3.5 Dragon magasine compendium vol.1 and monster's ecology vol. 1!
Great then.. just make sure you guyz are not goin in the way as you did with the 3.5 Dragon magasine compendium vol.1 and monster's ecology vol. 1!
Both of those products were produced on license from WotC. It was not our decision, for or against, if the sequels to those products would be published.
Sorry to bump an older post, but for whatever reason I just realized this past week that there is no titan in the Bestiary. I actually have plans for my soon-to-be-upcoming Golarion game that incorporates the machinations of the titans as background noise. Eventually the players will get swept up in it, of course, but that's not until high level play.
So, I am very much interested in seeing how Paizo handles the titan, and the mythology around them. It's going to be a long wait it seems. Drats!
There's a solution to this...
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I'm calling for TITANs to be more than just extra big giants.
Something truer to the original mythologies behind the word.
I'm calling for TITANs to be more than just extra big giants.
Something truer to the original mythologies behind the word.
The mythology of Golarion's titans are touched upon in The Great Beyond. Paizo's Bestiary will remain setting neutral, but they no doubt will stick to what they've already established.
The mythology of Golarion's titans are touched upon in The Great Beyond. Paizo's Bestiary will remain setting neutral, but they no doubt will stick to what they've already established.
Ah, thanks! I'll go review what that says! Thanks!
Titans will be in Bestiary II, and they'll build upon the themes and ideas from "The Great Beyond." But in a world-neutral way.
Hmmm.. Exiled from a mysterious war too terrible to mention. Sounds ripe for a good tale to be told.
Titans will be in Bestiary II, and they'll build upon the themes and ideas from "The Great Beyond." But in a world-neutral way.
I need to go dig out my copy of The Great Beyond, then. *grin*
Thanks!