As I seem to be posting updates all over the place I figured it might be easier if I just start one thread and then update it over time.
Anyone who wants to help work on the site can either post your request here (you need a Google account) or you can email me, or you can post on the d20pfsrd.com messageboards, your choice.
I'll post updates in this thread as I add features or updates to the site.
If anyone has specific requests, you can post them in this thread, or post them on the site messageboards, your choice.
Woot Woot! Things are humming now!
Traffic Report: We are getting around 1500 visits a day now, around 1000 absolutely unique visits, with traffic coming from roughly 50% referral sites, 30% direct traffic, and 20% search engines.
Features:
- a Google Search feature.
- a firefox search plugin.
- a downloadable plain-text PDF version of the PRD website.
- a downloadable html version of the d20pfsrd.com site.
- all monsters from the preview bestiary.
- very many monsters from 3.5 era adventure paths.
- very many converted monsters from other sources.
- downloadable wallpapers.
- a messageboard.
- a faq.
- an index filter.
- an amazon sales tracker.
- traits.
- a "print this page" function on all pages.
- a custom creations and reviews section.
- an online character sheets feature.
You know what? What more do you people want??? Sheesh!
No really. What more do you want? We're always looking for more help and more ideas. Post them here or on the d20pfsrd.com messageboards, we're listening :)
Ok, I have a "real" job I am supposed to be doing. I guess I better do something today.
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The site did originally contain beta rules but at this time I would be very surprised to find any beta rules remain.
Rar is just a package of files wrapped up in one bundle and then compressed to save space. You can use winrar to open a rar file just as you would use winzip to open a zip file. You might even be able to open it using winzip. This reminds me that I was planning to put zip versions up also. I'll try to get that done tonight if you don't want to mess with winrar.
Did you also have any requests or suggestions for features or links we should add?
The site did originally contain beta rules but at this time I would be very surprised to find any beta rules remain.
Rar is just a package of files wrapped up in one bundle and then compressed to save space. You can use winrar to open a rar file just as you would use winzip to open a zip file. You might even be able to open it using winzip. This reminds me that I was planning to put zip versions up also. I'll try to get that done tonight if you don't want to mess with winrar.
Did you also have any requests or suggestions for features or links we should add?
I was going to pop in and suggest a ZIP version, but it looks like you've got that covered. I was very surprised to find only a RAR file, considering general users will likely be confused by the format. I use 7-Zip, so can open just about anything I want, but I know from experience that the casual user will download a file, click on it, get an error, and move on with a "this site gave me broken stuff" impression.
That said, I very much like your site. I do long a bit for an expanding menu on the left-hand side, but the "file path" version at the top works well enough and does save some space. Great job!
I was going to pop in and suggest a ZIP version, but it looks like you've got that covered. I was very surprised to find only a RAR file, considering general users will likely be confused by the format.
I admit that I am sometimes a winrar snob. I prefer it (well just about anything) over winzip, but I now realize I should have just used winzip, or at least saved in zip format.
I also partially thought that the average user who might be interested in a downloadable copy of the site would be such a limited subset of the normal users that they are more likely to be more technical and therefore not have any issues with rar format. I guess its a good thing I didn't put them up there in tar format! :)
I use 7-Zip, so can open just about anything I want, but I know from experience that the casual user will download a file, click on it, get an error, and move on with a "this site gave me broken stuff" impression.
Clearly an error on my part. I'll take care of it.
That said, I very much like your site. I do long a bit for an expanding menu on the left-hand side, but the "file path" version at the top works well enough and does save some space. Great job!
Thanks. Google Sites does (easily) provide for theme changes, and one of the menu options is an expanding menu system. However, in the interests of maintaining a familiarity to d20srd.org I chose to not use it on purpose. I too would prefer an expanding menu (or even an entirely different look/theme) but for now I wanted to just give people what they were used to. If I had enough support for a theme/style change I'd be more than happy to go to town. I might even make a few screenshots of different themes and post them on the site for a vote or something.
I never used d20srd to be honest, I have been using Sovelior Sage which is absolutely perfect for my needs and the best interface I have seen yet.
If you could make PF SRD look like that, it would be cool!
While I have heard a few people like the interface of the Sovelior Sage site, I think d20srd.org was probably more widely used by far. I'm not "in love" with the current style, I just used this look to maintain the same style as d20srd.org. If people are open to a different layout I'd be more than happy to play around with it a bit. In general the main layout would remain the same, ie, text links on plain pages, but I might play around with colors and menu systems etc. That's in the future though, for now I want everything to work and work correctly. I'll worry about a new look and feel down the line.
I actually used both d20SRD and Sovelior Sage. The former is easily my preferred version as the interface for the latter was always clunkier for my use, a little less intuitive, etc. But it isn't blocked by my work firewall...
And you'd definitely freak people out with a TAR file. Next you'd be throwing out some crazy BIN file with forks all in it or some such!
8^D
I actually used both d20SRD and Sovelior Sage. The former is easily my preferred version as the interface for the latter was always clunkier for my use, a little less intuitive, etc. But it isn't blocked by my work firewall...
And you'd definitely freak people out with a TAR file. Next you'd be throwing out some crazy BIN file with forks all in it or some such!
8^D
HAH! Wait, let me whip something up.... (not!)
Is there a place to vet fan submissions? Like, I notice the human (native) ability scores, even after racial adjustments, can't possibly come from a basic human warrior starting array.
Is there a place to vet fan submissions? Like, I notice the human (native) ability scores, even after racial adjustments, can't possibly come from a basic human warrior starting array.
You can post here, or on the d20pfsrd.com messageboards. I know someone else mentioned the same thing about those scores and they have been corrected in the original source but I have not updated the site yet.
If you'd like access, you can fix things you find wrong yourself. All you need is a google id and to tell me you'd like access :)
Fixes from today (so far)
Thanks a lot for making the PF SRD. It rocks! SmileA few things I encountered while looking through the spell pages.
* Wall of Ice - this spell doesn't seem to have been created yet. Searching for it produces no results. The "Wall of Ice" entry on the Sorceror and Wizard spells page links to Wall of Force instead. Could it be added?
* Some of the links on the Sorceror and Wizard spell list page don't link properly. Most of these seem to be spells where the first letter is not part of the link. Instead of linking to a URL they link to "javascript:void(0);". Examples:
- Obscuring Mist
- Animate Rope
- Wind Wall
- Gaseous Form
- Stone Shape
- Beast Shape III
- Chain Lightning
- Undeath to Death
- Elemental Body IV
- Gate
- ShapechangeOther class pages have some of these as well:
Bard:
- Animate RopeDruid:
- Antilife ShellI'll post anything else I come across. Sorry, I would have included links to point to the exact pages but the BB system said "Registered member must have at least 5 postings to post any URL/Website Link".
Cheers,
--culixA few other notes:
* Persistent Image - this spell links to 'silent image' but the link does not work.
On the Sorcerer and Wizard spell list page the Persistent Image description reads "As major image, but with no concentration required." The link to 'major image' actually links to 'persistent image'.
* Major Image - links to 'silent image' but the link doesn't work. Again the Major Image description on the Sorcerer Wizard spell list page says 'silent image' but actually links to Major Image.
* Programmed Image - same deal; link to 'silent image' on the Programmed Image page doesn't work, and the link to 'major image' on the Sorcerer/Wizard spell list page actually links to Programmed Image.
* The Feeblemind description says "A creature that can cast arcane spells, such as a sorcerer or a wizard, takes a –4 penalty on its saving throw." Is this actually the text stored for this spell or could this just be a font error given by my setup? I'm using Windows XP and looking at the page in both FireFox 3.0.13 and IE6 both show me the garbled – instead of the minus sign.
Searching for the string "–" I also found many other pages that may need some text replacing. Here are some examples, but it said 76 pages of search results Razz
- Animate Rope
- Contact Other Plane
- Command Undead
- Dominate Person
- Reincarnate
- Giant Vermin
- Geas-Quest
- Dominate Animal
- Elemental Body I
- Holy WordSorry if this is a lot of work for replacing all those characters, but I thought I'd mention it.
All have been fixed. If anyone else notices anything similar, please feel free to let me know here or on the d20pfsrd.com messageboards.
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That said, I very much like your site. I do long a bit for an expanding menu on the left-hand side, but the "file path" version at the top works well enough and does save some space. Great job!Thanks. Google Sites does (easily) provide for theme changes, and one of the menu options is an expanding menu system. However, in the interests of maintaining a familiarity to d20srd.org I chose to not use it on purpose. I too would prefer an expanding menu (or even an entirely different look/theme) but for now I wanted to just give people what they were used to. If I had enough support for a theme/style change I'd be more than happy to go to town. I might even make a few screenshots of different themes and post them on the site for a vote or something.
I also quite like the expanding menu of the left hand side like the Sovelior Sage page had, it seemed more convenient to me than how d20srd was set up. I mostly used d20srd since it had a much better search though.
Since my original layout choice was based on the assumption that people preferred the design of d20srd.org that's what I went with. If, however, enough people chimed in that they'd like me to experiment with a different menu structure I would not be opposed at all. It might be very disruptive to the site while I play around with possible changes though so I would probably do any experimenting late at night (after 1am eastern) to minimize impact/shock to people as they say "WTF JUST HAPPENED TO THE SITE?!?!!" lol.
I'm really appreciating your site as is and have found it very useful, but if you are looking for opinions about the layout, I too was a solivor sage user. Having the menu options on the left would be very useful.
Yes I am looking for opinions.
If a majority of people prefer it be green with polka dots, it gets... well ok no green with polka dots, I have to step in somewhere lol but if people want a different menu system on the left I can certainly play around with it. To answer you specifically though, there are, already, menu options on the left. However, I am assuming though that you are referring to a collapsing/expanding menu that opens to expose subsections etc.
In fact, for clarity, that is what I believe a few of you are referring to. Is that correct?
Edit: Maybe what I could do is change the template for the site and collect yay's or nay's for that day, then repeat for a few days and then count the yays and nays :)
In fact, for clarity, that is what I believe a few of you are referring to. Is that correct?
Edit: Maybe what I could do is change the template for the site and collect yay's or nay's for that day, then repeat for a few days and then count the yays and nays :)
Yes, that is my only desired change right now (expanding/collapsing menus). Running a test day for various versions would probably get you some good feedback, though you might want a longer window for folks to play with a change. Probably have to point out any new/different functionality too in order for folks to properly assess.
Your wish is my command.
Presenting, a new, collapsible/expandable menu.
You may now tell me how amazing I am. I am accepting donations and tokens of your appreciation in the form of custard filled pastries or bacon.. your choice. Or both, that's fine too.
As always, please let me know what you think. I also changed the color scheme but I'm not married to it so no ones going to hurt my feelings if they despise it... well unless they call it really bad and hurtful names. Then I might sob a little inside.
Edit: I'm still sweeping up the re-org debris so if you find dust-bunnies running around, please catch them and deposit them in the d20pfsrd.com errata forums :)
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That looks really great to me, actually. It makes it a lot easier to sort through and find different pages, particularly if you are trying to jump back and forth through a couple different pages.
I was actually going to just recommend that you start with pages collapsed by default, but it looks like it uses cookies to keep track of the last settings you had and I think that is even better.
I'll give some more testing as soon as I have some time, but that looks really good. Thanks alot!
That looks really great to me, actually. It makes it a lot easier to sort through and find different pages, particularly if you are trying to jump back and forth through a couple different pages.
I was actually going to just recommend that you start with pages collapsed by default, but it looks like it uses cookies to keep track of the last settings you had and I think that is even better.
I'll give some more testing as soon as I have some time, but that looks really good. Thanks alot!
It turns out I broke *a lot* of links. I am fixing them now. The site was organized in a more flat structure before. In order to make the expanding menus work I had to move pages around a lot. If anyone is bored and looking for something extremely exciting to do on a Friday night I'd be more than happy to add you into the system so you can go on link-fix patrol with me.
I checked out your site. Nice work, Jreyst.
—Pax
Thanks but now I'm scrambling to repair the busticated links- DOH!!
Lot's of layout changes folks. Please let me know how you feel about the new expandable menu, ie, is it a hit or a miss?
Lot's of layout changes folks. Please let me know how you feel about the new expandable menu, ie, is it a hit or a miss?
I like!
Glad its a hit so far. How do people feel about the color scheme? Its a distinct departure from d20srd.orgs parchment background and shades of parchment tan colors. As I said before, no ones going to hurt my feelings by being honest. If you hate it, let me know.
Glad its a hit so far. How do people feel about the color scheme? Its a distinct departure from d20srd.orgs parchment background and shades of parchment tan colors. As I said before, no ones going to hurt my feelings by being honest. If you hate it, let me know.
Very nice on the menus. The color scheme--meh. I appreciate fast sites when I'm basically using it as a data/research area. If I have to wait for a site to load due to snazzy backgrounds, that's bad. Now, with that said, having a lot of white on the screen makes my eyes tired after a while (yes, Paizo's message boards drive me nuts sometimes...). When I've built sites that didn't want a background texture, I at least knock the background over to something in the tan/sage area to relieve eye fatigue. A parchment or other paper-like texture as a background often has the same benefit, but as noted above shouldn't be used to the excess of causing site lag.
So, the new layout has been up for a few days. I'm interested in hearing peoples opinions, mostly on usability, secondarily on brokenness, and lastly, on look (colors etc).
Post here or on the d20pfsrd.com messageboards what you think, pro or con.
The main reason I liked d20srd was because it had a fairly intuitive layout. For example prestige classes were on the same page as base classes. In a book I think it makes sense for the PrCs to be later in the book but for a reference I like them together. You kept this and several other layout bits that makes me happy.
The collapsible menus are nice in the main window but they default to all open on the sidebar for every page which is kind of worthless. I have to scroll for days to find some stuff.
In general I feel drop down lists shouldn't have more than 20 items before they should be broken up. For example "Spells of Golarian" seems a bit long, as does 'feats' and 'skills' in the sidebar.
Otherwise I like the colors and the organization.
One of my pet peeves is your linker didn't link the 's' at the end of a lot of words. I fix it whenever I see it.
Edit: The collapsible menus seem to stay collapsed now so the side bar is a lot better now but I still think long lists like feats don't work well there. Maybe just a link to Combat Feats, Metamagic, etc. rather than showing every single feat.
Edit: The collapsible menus seem to stay collapsed now so the side bar is a lot better now but I still think long lists like feats don't work well there. Maybe just a link to Combat Feats, Metamagic, etc. rather than showing every single feat.
I'm still seeing problems with the collapsible left hand nav. Menus that I have collapsed reopen when I click on another menu's item. I can't quite see a pattern yet. Using Firefox 3.5.3 on WinXP.
All monsters and new rules from Preview Bestiary II are now posted on the site.
I posted all of the new monsters as well as the new rules for the various monster abilities etc. I didn't have time to format the monsters consistent with the style template used on the conversion pages.
For those who might not know, the site is http://www.d20pfsrd.com. Click on Bestiary in the leftside menu and then Preview Bestiaries. The new rules are highlighted in blue, the new monsters are shuffled into the list on the right. In short, the new monsters are:
The new monsters!
New Rules:
If you are already a collaborator and have any free time and want to reformat those new (and the previous) monsters, to match the existing template, go for it!
If you are not already a collaborator, and you'd like to be, send me an email at jreyst@gmail.com. I'll get you set up pretty quick and you can help get them all polished up!
Side note, veector, yeah, the menu seems inconsistent to me too :( Not sure how its working for others?
I made some slight updates to Prot from XXXX spells where cross links were broken. Just a heads up.
I also fixed the skills page (links were broken due to re-org from a few days ago). Thanks to Xotli for reporting!
Hey, I just checked out the site, and I think the new approach is great!
It really seems more usable than Paizo's PRD...
That said, I think there's a HUGE value in Paizo keeping the structure of their PRD 100% matching the print book: it's easiest to compare/NOTICE updated Errata when it's otherwise presented the exact same.
(A suggestion I've made to Paizo that might be applicable to PFSRD is instituting a color-key where Errata/updates to the 1st printing have a different text color. Even use one color for rules-neutral GRAMMAR changes, and another color for substantive rules updates/Errata. Otherwise, I think it's REALLY easy for those with 1st printings to overlook Errata changes.)
Other suggestions:
Make the categories on the left COLLAPSED (small) by default. The current setup with them all open necessitates a RIDICULOUS amount of scrolling to get thru everything. ...I don't think I can emphasize this enough :-)
Getting a TABLE Summary of the Feats (to be displayed on the Feats "top page" would be very nice.
One idea that might be useful to pursue once you've got it more settled down,
is if people can track down all of Paizo staff comments on Paizo's boards relevant to particular rules, and repost those under each rules section (in other words, in-line FAQs - with hyperlinks to the original posts for "verification" ala Wikipedia). But that's definitely isn't a "first" priority of any kind.
I unfortunately don't really have the time to contribute at this time.... And I have a collection of notepaper and napkins (literally) on Errata in the Core Book I should really type-out and post to the boards. :-)
Thanks for doing this!
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Screw it. I don't have anything to say now.
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I just had a really long post completely written and formatted and the freaking messageboard monster ate it.
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To be honest I kind of don't like the sidebar collapsing at all. It just makes more mouse clicks. I would rather see a simple sectional menu on the side.
The main page on the site doesn't have any links to the Beastiary. It would be nice if everything were accessible there.
Ok folks, I was wondering which, if any, of the following "extras" you use and/or appreciate. The list is starting to get lengthy so I want to see if there is anything that people universally don't use or value:
- Messageboard
- Online Character Sheets
- Custom Creations
- Digital Book Index
- Downloads
- Index of Dungeon Magazines
- d20pfsrd.com Pathfinder Search plugin
- Unofficial Rules FAQ for Pathfinder
- Reviews of Gaming Products
- Amazon Pathfinder Sales Tracker
Also, I'd appreciate any feedback yea or nay on the expanding menu on the left of the pages. Do you prefer a static menu or do you prefer it as it is now?
How do you like the new layout and colors?
Feel free to come over to the messageboards to post any errors or errata also.
Thanks!
I like the current look with the expanding sidebar, but I'd like for fewer things to be automatically expanded. Maybe have the current selection (and its parents) be expanded and everything else be hidden.
Ok folks, I was wondering which, if any, of the following "extras" you use and/or appreciate. The list is starting to get lengthy so I want to see if there is anything that people universally don't use or value:
I use the online rules and that's it.
Also, I'd appreciate any feedback yea or nay on the expanding menu on the left of the pages. Do you prefer a static menu or do you prefer it as it is now?
I really don't like the expanding menus on the side. It's hard to find things and I never know what's going to be open or closed and it seems to stretch on forever.
How do you like the new layout and colors?
Layout/ colors are fine but I'm generally not picky.
Messageboard
Not likely to ever use this (I just post here), but I see the need for folks wanting to post about the site directly.
Online Character Sheets
Not likely to ever use this. The online sheets I use are part of sites like Myth Weavers. For face-to-face I use other electronic versions
Custom Creations
Perhaps something that could be collaborated with the Pathfinder Database so it all stays in one place?
Digital Book Index
Interesting, though I'm not likely to use it much as I just go directly to the PRD or PDF.
Downloads
As with the messageboards, I won't use it much but see the need for it.
Index of Dungeon Magazines
Seems more like a Recommended Links than an Extra
d20pfsrd.com Pathfinder Search plugin
Very nice and will definitely use this.
Unofficial Rules FAQ for Pathfinder
Not likely to remember to use this, but it is nice to have
Reviews of Gaming Products
Seems like another thing that might be good for collaboration with Pathfinder DB.
Amazon Pathfinder Sales Tracker
Not likely to ever use this.
Also, I'd appreciate any feedback yea or nay on the expanding menu on the left of the pages. Do you prefer a static menu or do you prefer it as it is now?
I like the dynamic menu, though I would like a little more delineation for long lists. The spells, for instance, could break down into a list of the alphabet, then down to select spells. The d20SRD Spell page is another option. Just needs something to help with those longer data sets.
How do you like the new layout and colors?
It's working for me except for the large amount of white space. Any option for a shade of green, brown, etc. that would compliment the blue?
...but I'd like for fewer things to be automatically expanded. Maybe have the current selection (and its parents) be expanded and everything else be hidden.
I'll have to jump in here before too many people mention the expanded/unexpanded part.
Yes, this seems like an issue for me too. It seems inconsistent in what gets expanded and when. I have not done a large amount of troubleshooting on it to determine what's going on or even if this is normal behavior and there is some rule determining what is happening.
As an FYI though, the expanding menu is a straight up tool provided by Google Sites and it is not possible to change the code of it or how it works. Its basically a "take it as it is or drop it" situation. Either you can deal with its inconsistency in favor of the convenience it provides, or you can't. If you can't then it basically means a return to a flat, static menu where I choose some what I will refer to as "portal pages" or pages that open into the different sub-sections of the site.
First let me thank you for all your effort on the character sheet. That's pretty awesome and I wish you much success on it!
Second, thanks for responding in such detail. I'll try to do the same (I hope this isn't too hard to follow).
MessageboardNot likely to ever use this (I just post here), but I see the need for folks wanting to post about the site directly.
Sure.
Online Character SheetsNot likely to ever use this. The online sheets I use are part of sites like Myth Weavers. For face-to-face I use other electronic versions.
I haven't seen Myth Weavers. Have you tried the sheets via dndsheets.net? That's what I have on that page. They're quite cool actually. I recommend at least checking them out.
Custom CreationsPerhaps something that could be collaborated with the Pathfinder Database so it all stays in one place?
This page was created before there even was a Pathfinderdb.com website. The purpose for the page now is to highlight open content from other sources that does not fit into a category on Pathfinderdb.com, such as Traps and alternate rules. I also have other alternate rules or fluff content on that page such as a detailed Paladin's Code of Ethics that also wouldn't fit into the Pathfinderdb, or at least not as I understand it currently. I do intend though, to move custom monsters, classes, races, etc, into the Pathfinderdb, as I think that would be the best central store house for that sort of content.
Digital Book IndexInteresting, though I'm not likely to use it much as I just go directly to the PRD or PDF.
Just out of curiosity, do you prefer the PRD over d20pfsrd.com, and if so, why? Is there a feature or function that d20pfsrd.com is lacking in your opinion?
DownloadsAs with the messageboards, I won't use it much but see the need for it.
I had seen a lot of people asking for a few things. One was a downloadable, offline copy of the PRD, in html format, and the other was a stripped down PDF copy of the PRD, with no images or colors, for the purposes of speeding the book up. I created both, though they are certainly far from perfect.
Index of Dungeon MagazinesSeems more like a Recommended Links than an Extra.
I just added that last night. I found that page and thought DM's might find it useful... I know I do.
d20pfsrd.com Pathfinder Search pluginVery nice and will definitely use this.
Thanks, but I had nothing to do with that one. Someone named "Nite" on the d20pfsrd.com messageboards posted that out of the blue. Yes, it is very nice and handy. Thanks again Nite (if you are reading this!)
Unofficial Rules FAQ for PathfinderNot likely to remember to use this, but it is nice to have.
I just read over it now and then and try to remember what's there. Personally I'd like to see attribution links added to the various sections where a Paizo person had a response to something but I have not had the time to bring this up with ShadowChemosh yet.
Reviews of Gaming ProductsSeems like another thing that might be good for collaboration with Pathfinder DB.
I didn't think Tahsin was doing anything like industry reviews?
Amazon Pathfinder Sales TrackerNot likely to ever use this.
This was more to sate my curiosity during the first week or two the book was on sale to see how it was doing compared to books from "that other company". The page got a LOT of hits the first week it was up.
Also, I'd appreciate any feedback yea or nay on the expanding menu on the left of the pages. Do you prefer a static menu or do you prefer it as it is now?I like the dynamic menu, though I would like a little more delineation for long lists. The spells, for instance, could break down into a list of the alphabet, then down to select spells. The d20SRD Spell page is another option. Just needs something to help with those longer data sets.
I had considered moving the longer sets down one level, ie, as grandchildren, not children, of the parent page, and then telling Google to only display the Children level (don't go down 2 levels). This might help alleviate some of this.
How do you like the new layout and colors?It's working for me except for the large amount of white space. Any option for a shade of green, brown, etc. that would compliment the blue?
I was always under the impression that "white-space is good" though I do admit that it can be harder on the eyes after a while. I assume you are referring to the main body of each page being white? I could do a subtle off-white to reduce the brightness a bit.
First let me thank you for all your effort on the character sheet. That's pretty awesome and I wish you much success on it!
Second, thanks for responding in such detail. I'll try to do the same (I hope this isn't too hard to follow).
Thanks, and you're welcome! I know how working on a personal project like this can benefit from feedback...
I haven't seen Myth Weavers. Have you tried the sheets via dndsheets.net? That's what I have on that page. They're quite cool actually. I recommend at least checking them out.
Oh yes, I've definitely seen dndsheets and it's very good. I actually used it from the early days (can't remember what it was called then) and MythWeaver (which is a dedicated PBP site) used it for quite some time before moving their sheets in-house. It's definitely good for folks that need it, I just know I personally won't use it due to already having that need filled.
This page was created before there even was a Pathfinderdb.com website. The purpose for the page now is to highlight open content from other sources that does not fit into a category on Pathfinderdb.com, such as Traps and alternate rules. I also have other alternate rules or fluff content on that page such as a detailed Paladin's Code of Ethics that also wouldn't fit into the Pathfinderdb, or at least not as I understand it currently. I do intend though, to move custom monsters, classes, races, etc, into the Pathfinderdb, as I think that would be the best central store house for that sort of content.
This sounds like a good split. My primary goal is getting as much PF stuff centralized at a few sites as possible, since it makes my life easier!
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Just out of curiosity, do you prefer the PRD over d20pfsrd.com, and if so, why? Is there a feature or function that d20pfsrd.com is lacking in your opinion?
I should clarify, when I say PRD I just mean the online version of the PF material in any form. I generally use your site for all such needs, as it's faster and laid out more to my liking.
I had seen a lot of people asking for a few things. One was a downloadable, offline copy of the PRD, in html format, and the other was a stripped down PDF copy of the PRD, with no images or colors, for the purposes of speeding the book up. I created both, though they are certainly far from perfect.
It's definitely good to have a repository for site-related functionality and other goodies. My overall thought was keep this lean and focused (as it is now).
I just read over it now and then and try to remember what's there. Personally I'd like to see attribution links added to the various sections where a Paizo person had a response to something but I have not had the time to bring this up with ShadowChemosh yet.
Attribution links would be very good indeed. My lack of use is due largely to me making rulings without referencing any outside source most of the time. The only time a FAQ item came up in 3.5 is if a player didn't agree with a ruling and use it for support (sometimes persuading me, sometimes not).
I didn't think Tahsin was doing anything like industry reviews?
Hmm, could be and perhaps I'm thinking about the wiki or some such. It just seemed odd specifically on a rules reference site. Not bad, just odd.
I had considered moving the longer sets down one level, ie, as grandchildren, not children, of the parent page, and then telling Google to only display the Children level (don't go down 2 levels). This might help alleviate some of this.
That would probably work well--any entry that has more than, say 15 individual pages would become a link to summary pages (the d20SRD Spells page again comes to mind)
I was always under the impression that "white-space is good" though I do admit that it can be harder on the eyes after a while. I assume you are referring to the main body of each page being white? I could do a subtle off-white to reduce the brightness a bit.
White-space from a layout perspective, i.e. not having the text all crammed together and filling the whole screen is definitely good. Having that space actually be the color white, however, makes reading on the screen more difficult (at least for me). For pages I've designed, I seem to always land on a light shade of tan or green for the background, but anything that compliments the overall theme while reducing eye strain a bit would be great.
I like the downloads section a lot. In particular, I liked the downloadable version of the web site and the PDF version (which I converted to ASCII for my own use).
This page was created before there even was a Pathfinderdb.com website. The purpose for the page now is to highlight open content from other sources that does not fit into a category on Pathfinderdb.com, such as Traps and alternate rules. I also have other alternate rules or fluff content on that page such as a detailed Paladin's Code of Ethics that also wouldn't fit into the Pathfinderdb, or at least not as I understand it currently. I do intend though, to move custom monsters, classes, races, etc, into the Pathfinderdb, as I think that would be the best central store house for that sort of content.This sounds like a good split. My primary goal is getting as much PF stuff centralized at a few sites as possible, since it makes my life easier!
I actually do have traps on my site now. I divide content into GM content and player content for the main category distinction. So far, no trap submissions and I don't expect much for the forseeable future.
I do not intend to have any product reviews on my site so feel free jreyst!
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I just had a really long post completely written and formatted and the freaking messageboard monster ate it.
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Screw it. I don't have anything to say now.
Hey Jreyst...
Here is what I do.... after I write a long post I hit CRTL-A to select all, and CTRL-C to copy it. Then I click the upload post button. I then wait a moment (especially if it looks like the post monster ate it) to see if it appears on the list of new messageboard posts. If it hasn't appeared after 2-3 minutes, I create a new post, CRTL-V to paste the content back in from my clipboard and then hit upload post.
Works every time with zero frustration.
Hope that helps,
—Your friendly neighborhood champion of all things Pathfinder RPG and the traditions and history of our game,
Pax Veritas
Yes, I've started copying and pasting as well as the post-monster is so freaking hungry around here. I rarely see it on other boards but it sure is a beast 'round these parts. That must be a high CR beast as it doesn't seem to ever go away.