Which faction is on top?


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"The factions of Absalom have long despised one another. History is fraught with their bloody feuds, brutal wars, and oppressions. At the end of Season 0, one faction shall stand higher than the others, their talons sunk deep into Absalom's affairs reaping grand rewards. With each new season, though, come new opportunities."

Ok, I was wondering which faction came out on top. I might have missed it on the message boards. My players are also really interested in what the grand rewards will be and how it will effect their characters.

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Oddly enough, Nex came out on top, since all the other factions were busy keeping track of each other . . . irony . . .

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If I understand Josh correctly, the "power struggle" is further off-stage than he and Nick Logue originally planned. Faction success is measured by the PC's own Faction Prestige points, which play a substantially more important role in PFS now that we're in Season 1.

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Chris Mortika wrote:
If I understand Josh correctly, the "power struggle" is further off-stage than he and Nick Logue originally planned. Faction success is measured by the PC's own Faction Prestige points, which play a substantially more important role in PFS now that we're in Season 1.

Still I like to know which side won at season 0. Even if season 0 is just for the playtest it would be cool to know the results.

or the results of how many Core Rules books were sold at GENCON. Facts we all want to know but may never.....

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Naturally, Cheliax won. You other factions just don't know it yet.

Edit: By the way, the grand prize was having an Adventure Path set completely in your country.


I officially declare Vudra the winner.


kikai13 wrote:
By the way, the grand prize was having an Adventure Path set completely in your country.
Joshua J. Frost wrote:
I officially declare Vudra the winner.

Spoiler much? :-)

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kikai13 wrote:

Naturally, Cheliax won. You other factions just don't know it yet.

Edit: By the way, the grand prize was having an Adventure Path set completely in your country.

Here! Here!

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
I officially declare Vudra the winner.

You realize this question will keep coming back until you name one of the five actual factions, right? :)


Everybody won. It was an amazing, unbelievable result: a five-way tie.

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
Everybody won. It was an amazing, unbelievable result: a five-way tie.

:rofl:

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
Everybody won. It was an amazing, unbelievable result: a five-way tie.

You evil evil man. :-)

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kikai13 wrote:
Edit: By the way, the grand prize was having an Adventure Path set completely in your country.

If that is true, Cheliax won since the next AP is set there... is that an admission!?

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Arnim Thayer wrote:
kikai13 wrote:
Edit: By the way, the grand prize was having an Adventure Path set completely in your country.
If that is true, Cheliax won since the next AP is set there... is that an admission!?

Don't believe the devil worshipers you fool. Taldan won, of course, only no one else realizes it!

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I don't care who "won" so much as which faction was played the most.

Which faction had the most level 2+ characters?

Which faction accumulated the most prestige points?

These are basic things everyone is interested in, give it up. :)


And these are things I'm not going to reveal. Pathfinder Society is young and growing--I don't want to discourage people by saying, "Your faction is the worst!"

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
And these are things I'm not going to reveal. Pathfinder Society is young and growing--I don't want to discourage people by saying, "Your faction is the worst!"

I figured it was something like that.

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
And these are things I'm not going to reveal. Pathfinder Society is young and growing--I don't want to discourage people by saying, "Your faction is the worst!"

Cheliax is on top. Of course. You mean there was doubt?

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Qadira has entered into a lucrative deal with Mr. Frost. In exchange for certain rare goods and services he won't be telling how far ahead Qadira is, ensuring you continue to struggle amongst yourselves while we pull even further ahead.

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Darkwolf wrote:
In exchange for certain rare goods and services....

Rare? Cheliax has procured the services of the most experienced succubi and sent them to be Mr. Frost's...assistants. Qadira's trinkets are but common dirt in comparison.

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joela wrote:
Rare? Cheliax has procured the services of the most experienced succubi and sent them to be Mr. Frost's...assistants. Qadira's trinkets are but common dirt in comparison.

Attractive though they may be, I doubt your harpies will sway him. I understand that the "morning after" such an encounter is usually full of regret.

I

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Ibrahim al-Koor wrote:
joela wrote:
Rare? Cheliax has procured the services of the most experienced succubi and sent them to be Mr. Frost's...assistants. Qadira's trinkets are but common dirt in comparison.

Attractive though they may be, I doubt your harpies will sway him. I understand that the "morning after" such an encounter is usually full of regret.

I

Harpies? You must be thinking of those Andoran and their loose tongues....

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Quoted from Amenopheus..."Pathfinders, it appears that our attempts to remain in secret are working. The other factions believe their power is growing all the while our agents improve the Osirion position. Soon the time will come when the veil is removed and Khemet will be declared the grand Pharaoh of all the lands. The denizens of Golarion will tremble."

Any questions? :)

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joela wrote:
Joshua J. Frost wrote:
And these are things I'm not going to reveal. Pathfinder Society is young and growing--I don't want to discourage people by saying, "Your faction is the worst!"
Cheliax is on top. Of course. You mean there was doubt?

Naturally, there *cannot* be any doubt of that -- only petty lies and spiteful envy from the others as they (in vain) try to deny the truth!

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joela wrote:
Darkwolf wrote:
In exchange for certain rare goods and services....
Rare? Cheliax has procured the services of the most experienced succubi and sent them to be Mr. Frost's...assistants. Qadira's trinkets are but common dirt in comparison.

Haha, I heard Joshua sent the worthless junk to Katapesh, to be handed out on the streets and marketplaces to the poor and the homeless (so that they can buy at least a day's worth of food)!

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Meh, to me it seems all the factions just lost color and became bland meshes of different grays. A journal of Absalom's happening would be nice, but I'm not holding hopes for such a thing.

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
And these are things I'm not going to reveal. Pathfinder Society is young and growing--I don't want to discourage people by saying, "Your faction is the worst!"

I haven't heard anyone ask who came in last, and I find it hard to believe that giving one faction bragging rights is going to discourage others from playing. In fact, I chose Taldor in part because it seemed like an underdog.

However, I do vividly remember this sentence from the Season 0 Guide:

Quote:
At the end of Season 0, one faction shall stand higher than the others, their talons sunk deep into Absalom’s affairs reaping grand rewards.

I notice that sentence (or one like it) has completely disappeared from the Season 1 Guide. Do you really not want players to care whether their factions are achieving more or less than the others?

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Derek Poppink wrote:
Joshua J. Frost wrote:
And these are things I'm not going to reveal. Pathfinder Society is young and growing--I don't want to discourage people by saying, "Your faction is the worst!"

I haven't heard anyone ask who came in last, and I find it hard to believe that giving one faction bragging rights is going to discourage others from playing. In fact, I chose Taldor in part because it seemed like an underdog.

However, I do vividly remember this sentence from the Season 0 Guide:

Quote:
At the end of Season 0, one faction shall stand higher than the others, their talons sunk deep into Absalom’s affairs reaping grand rewards.
I notice that sentence (or one like it) has completely disappeared from the Season 1 Guide. Do you really not want players to care whether their factions are achieving more or less than the others?

Hmmm, I personnaly despise the 'everyone's a winner' mentality. Even if we don't get a break down of ALL the rankings, it would be nice to know which is in the number one spot.

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I don't think the popularity of your faction would influences or could possibly ruin someone's gameplay experience.

I'm just interested in seeing what other people play! Especially if broken down into different geographies (I know the Finnish are Cheliax worshippers!).

We don't want to know numbers, percentages would be fine and it wouldn't reveal the size of the society.


I'm with Jason S, I'd love to see some demographics!

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Jason S wrote:
Especially if broken down into different geographies (I know the Finnish are Cheliax worshippers!).

We truly are; they even mentioned it in the biggest Finnish RPG magazine (it was part of a glowing review of the Pathfinder Setting and Pathfinder Society). I don't know why, but I, too, felt instantly inclined towards Cheliax (even before I knew that it's everyone's favorite faction over here).

It also seems that 4E hasn't gone over very well in Finland, and people are playing or switching back to 3E/PF RPG. :)

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I'm assuming Andoran won Season 0, although with Season One perhaps people whose primary PC is Andoran will try a new faction so maybe Andoran won't always have a lock. My assumption is based on the fact that Andoran is 100 points ahead of the next faction in my own reporting, and the faction mission handouts I'm constantly having to reprint are most often Andoran. Buncha mission thieves, them Andorans. I'm gonna attach a hubcap to the Andoran mission handouts if this keeps up ;)

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Taldor goes all the way up to the southern border of Galt. Taldor is totally on top.

Unless you don't subscribe to that ridiculous 'north / south' convention that unfairly puts the centers of true civilization at the 'bottom' of the propoganda maps put out by those shameless revisionists of history. In which case Qadira is rightly 'on top' while the Avistani upstarts with their demon-wounds and icy wastelands are properly at the bottom of the world, like the dregs at the bottom of a cup of coffee.

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Doug Doug wrote:
and the faction mission handouts I'm constantly having to reprint are most often Andoran. Buncha mission thieves, them Andorans. I'm gonna attach a hubcap to the Andoran mission handouts if this keeps up ;)

Hmm, I bet if you track down the missing Andoran mission statements you will find it is a different faction stealing them from unsuspecting Andorans! I know a few Qadirans that love to steal all sorts of paperwork and maps and anything else that isn't nailed down.

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Asgetrion wrote:
It also seems that 4E hasn't gone over very well in Finland, and people are playing or switching back to 3E/PF RPG. :)

According to what I've heard, only one GM in Ropecon held 4th edition games, and only two of them. Out of all the 160 games ran, that's pretty low. Even AD&D (I don't know which version) got more plays!

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Asgetrion wrote:


We truly are; they even mentioned it in the biggest Finnish RPG magazine (it was part of a glowing review of the Pathfinder Setting and Pathfinder Society). I don't know why, but I, too, felt instantly inclined towards Cheliax (even before I knew that it's everyone's favorite faction over here).

Asgetrion, where in Finland do you play Pathfinder Society?

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joela wrote:
Darkwolf wrote:
In exchange for certain rare goods and services....
Rare? Cheliax has procured the services of the most experienced succubi and sent them to be Mr. Frost's...assistants. Qadira's trinkets are but common dirt in comparison.

Succubi? Wow, Cheliax is apparently so far behind that they're going to 4E to find more devils to recruit.

Spoiler:
sorry joela, couldn't resist

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Navdi wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:


We truly are; they even mentioned it in the biggest Finnish RPG magazine (it was part of a glowing review of the Pathfinder Setting and Pathfinder Society). I don't know why, but I, too, felt instantly inclined towards Cheliax (even before I knew that it's everyone's favorite faction over here).
Asgetrion, where in Finland do you play Pathfinder Society?

I live in Oulu, so I haven't yet played in any Society games, but we do have several local groups that have switched to PF RPG, though. Once I've moved to Helsinki I'll join the games over there (I think they're also running PFS scenarios at Fantasiapelit?).

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Matthew Morris wrote:
joela wrote:
Darkwolf wrote:
In exchange for certain rare goods and services....
Rare? Cheliax has procured the services of the most experienced succubi and sent them to be Mr. Frost's...assistants. Qadira's trinkets are but common dirt in comparison.

Succubi? Wow, Cheliax is apparently so far behind that they're going to 4E to find more devils to recruit.

** spoiler omitted **

He meant Erinyes assistants... poor joela was recently tort... er, questioned by the Order of the Rack, and he still haven't recovered from their prodding...questions.

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Asgetrion wrote:
I live in Oulu, so I haven't yet played in any Society games, but we do have several local groups that have switched to PF RPG, though. Once I've moved to Helsinki I'll join the games over there (I think they're also running PFS scenarios at Fantasiapelit?).

Nope. Fantasiapelit isn't doing anything Pathfinder Society -related at the moment. We're the ones running Pathfinder Society in the Helsinki area. We did at one point use the Fantasiapelit gaming room in Kalasatama, and that's probably what you're thinking of.

Get in touch when you move to Helsinki. Contact info on the website.

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Navdi wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:
I live in Oulu, so I haven't yet played in any Society games, but we do have several local groups that have switched to PF RPG, though. Once I've moved to Helsinki I'll join the games over there (I think they're also running PFS scenarios at Fantasiapelit?).

Nope. Fantasiapelit isn't doing anything Pathfinder Society -related at the moment. We're the ones running Pathfinder Society in the Helsinki area. We did at one point use the Fantasiapelit gaming room in Kalasatama, and that's probably what you're thinking of.

Get in touch when you move to Helsinki. Contact info on the website.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of; thanks for the link, I'll get in touch once I move there (probably in a year or so). :)

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Githzilla wrote:
Doug Doug wrote:
and the faction mission handouts I'm constantly having to reprint are most often Andoran. Buncha mission thieves, them Andorans. I'm gonna attach a hubcap to the Andoran mission handouts if this keeps up ;)
Hmm, I bet if you track down the missing Andoran mission statements you will find it is a different faction stealing them from unsuspecting Andorans! I know a few Qadirans that love to steal all sorts of paperwork and maps and anything else that isn't nailed down.

Really? Surely no one I know.

Whistles innocently...

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Of course Taldor is on top, we are the ones telling everyone else that another faction, which ever is chosen for that particular week, is the one that is on top.
Misinformation to other Factions, its what we do.

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we are busy earning prestigue while you are quarreling over spoiled milk

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Montalve wrote:
we are busy earning prestigue while you are quarreling over spoiled milk

Who is quarreling over what? Everyone already *knows* that majestic Cheliax is on top... whether you want to admit it publicly or not! It's not a question of "earning" prestige -- it's an established *fact*! Now, the second place is still open, so why don't you go and kill some kobolds -- although competition isn't exactly fierce; Taldorians are too busy sipping their wine and perfurming their wigs, those bug-lovers from Osirion spend most of their time bowing down before some mandibled statue, and Qadirans jump and run to home when someone whispers "Padishah Emperor" (I know; I've tried it!). ;P

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Darius Silverbolt wrote:
Joshua J. Frost wrote:
And these are things I'm not going to reveal. Pathfinder Society is young and growing--I don't want to discourage people by saying, "Your faction is the worst!"
I figured it was something like that.

Well duh, that's because Andoran's suck the most, but Josh didn't want to hurt your feelings. Now go put on your grey shirt and sulk in the corner. :-P

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You know this is kinda well 5th grade folks, as long as you enjoy your faction and understand the missions given to you WHO CARES WHO IS ON TOP. I am of the Taldor faction and while we may not be abundant in #'s I have had the pleasure of committing assassination, torture, criminal damage, acts of terrorism and grand theft all in the name of my faction. It's not about who has the most people it's about who can levy out the most collateral damage.

Handsome Jack


Trivial humanoids. The reason Josh does not reveal to you which faction came out on top is because it is THE DRAGONS that were the most successful faction. That's right, a faction which scarce few of you even knew existed up until this moment, and those few of you who did likely being 'in the know' because you were invited to join and are members.
Throughout the preliminary season, our agents have been accumulating a steady number of successes, defrosting Ulfen ships, dealing with troublesome secrets, and making sure that distilleries end up in the RIGHT hands.
I am pleased to announce a practically unique NINETY FIVE PER CENT success rate by our representatives in scoring the maximum prestige available, and that the five per cent of operatives who failed to achieve the standards expected made a very tasty entrée course at our annual conclave in the appropriate draconic library.
Josh will of course continue to disseminate misinformation, as per our instructions, refusing to acknowledge our faction's existence, or at least he will if he doesn't want to spend a week away from work again. (Did you really think a man with his Great Fortitude could actually succomb to pneumonia?)
I am pleased to announce that the resultant victory for the dragon faction means that the struggle of lesser beings will continue throughout the forthcoming season, our own operatives quietly amassing prestige whilst the other factions bicker and fail.
And will someone please tell that idiot Mengkare to stop preening himself? Yes we won, but he's embarrassing us.

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