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Everyone!
Per Vic Wertz, Technical Director of Paizo:
From where I sit, it's August 13, the official release date of the Pathfinder RPG. And as a co-owner of Paizo Publishing and someone with a significant role in what some refer to as "the edition wars," I have an announcement to make:
The Edition Wars are over, and we have all won.
My take? Yup ;-)
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Everyone!
Per Vic Wertz, Technical Director of Paizo:
From where I sit, it's August 13, the official release date of the Pathfinder RPG. And as a co-owner of Paizo Publishing and someone with a significant role in what some refer to as "the edition wars," I have an announcement to make:
The Edition Wars are over, and we have all won.
My take? Yup ;-)
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Everyone!
Per Vic Wertz, Technical Director of Paizo:
From where I sit, it's August 13, the official release date of the Pathfinder RPG. And as a co-owner of Paizo Publishing and someone with a significant role in what some refer to as "the edition wars," I have an announcement to make:
The Edition Wars are over, and we have all won.
My take? Yup ;-)
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All edition wars(and console wars(and cola wars)) do is make me irritated with the warriors. There's plenty of game to go around.
The sentiment in the blog is certainly one I can get behind.(or rather, have been behind)
Here here:
]Check out my (made in 5 mins) ENWorld sig
I made this after getting sick of Edition Wars
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Here here:
]Check out my (made in 5 mins) ENWorld sig
I made this after getting sick of Edition Wars
LUV the sig. Seen it over at EN World. Hmmm. Wonder if it could be printed onto a shirt....
I love it when every one wins.
Everyone!
Per Vic Wertz, Technical Director of Paizo:
From where I sit, it's August 13, the official release date of the Pathfinder RPG. And as a co-owner of Paizo Publishing and someone with a significant role in what some refer to as "the edition wars," I have an announcement to make:
The Edition Wars are over, and we have all won.
My take? Yup ;-)
I respectfully disagree. Some people lost in the edition wars. As some things were dropped or changed that make backwards compatability non-existant to 3.5.
So if we won, where are our reparations? And what are our reparations, exactly?
Will there be the usual after-the-war tribunals?
My hat of d02 know no limit!!!!
(WARNING: DO NOT READ THIS CLASSIC THREAD WHILE DRINKING ANYTHING)
Ive stayed out of it all as Ive allways thought we are gamers all together !
We love games of the imagination !
Its all wasted breath when we could be helping each other with new ideas.
Here Here !
Lets refer all debasers to Vics Post and get on with our lives !
Bring the love.
I respectfully disagree. Some people lost in the edition wars. As some things were dropped or changed that make backwards compatability non-existant to 3.5.
I speak with just as much respect when I say that I don't know what 3.P change you're upset about, but I HIGHLY doubt you'll still be upset about it a year from now, or even a month from that matter.
Maybe I'm wrong. But even if you have EVERYTHING about the PRPG, every single change that they've made, this is still a huge shot in the arm for e3 and (as Vic said in his post) you're going to see a lot more adventures and sourcebooks in the future which will be 99% compatible with your own game.
And even if you hate THOSE, you're still going to benefit from an invigorated base of 3.x players who will be easier to talk into discussing or playing 3.5.
Call me a fanboy, but I can't imagine seeing this as anything but an all-around win for the hobby.
I thought 2E won
Only because of its rad Binder system and its easy to color pictures.
I respectfully disagree. Some people lost in the edition wars. As some things were dropped or changed that make backwards compatability non-existant to 3.5.
But if you prefer 3.5 to the Pathfinder RPG, you can stick with 3.5 while still using the new Pathfinder adventures with a minimum of tweaking. Or, for that matter, you can stick with the Beta or even the Alpha, if you prefer that. I think that's got to count for something.
I thought 2E won
Absolutely!
And it's coming back, you 3.5/4E bastards!
You're going down!!!!
I thought 2E won
Nono, there can be only 1e.
So if we won, where are our reparations? And what are our reparations, exactly?
Our Reparations are the PathfinderRPG and the Pathfinder Bestiary.
Will there be the usual after-the-war tribunals?
Those are being held at GenCon. Most people call them the "Ennies."
Where is Diaglo from ENWorld when you really need him???I thought 2E wonNono, there can be only 1e.
Hahah, he's probably at GenCon.
I've never actually had the chance to play OD&D, though I do have the White Box and all the original supplements. I need to do that someday...
Everyone!
Per Vic Wertz, Technical Director of Paizo:
From where I sit, it's August 13, the official release date of the Pathfinder RPG. And as a co-owner of Paizo Publishing and someone with a significant role in what some refer to as "the edition wars," I have an announcement to make:
The Edition Wars are over, and we have all won.
My take? Yup ;-)
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I disagree. I think that, if anything, the release of the PathfinderRPG (3.5 Thrives!) will revive the edition wars.
4th Edition players (and by extention WoTC) can no longer just wait for 3.5 to die off.
The Edition wars have been re-ignited.
The playing field has been leveled.
The geek battle rejoined.
Flame On!
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I disagree. I think that, if anything, the release of the PathfinderRPG (3.5 Thrives!) will revive the edition wars.
And interestingly there could be a new edition war 3.5 vs PF RPG. I for one get annoyed by that 3.5 Thrives! tagline - Pathfinder RPG is not 3.5! If anything it is another nail in the coffin of 3.5, splitting the player base once again.
Take my weekly group for example, two GMs who want to run using PF and me wanting to stick to 3.5. I enjoy a game much more when I know the rules (including all the little tricky rules) - with 3.5 I had that.
Now I have to make the decision to either invest in PF (both in terms of money and more importantly time) and regain that same level of enjoyment, or stick with borrowing the rulebook of my GM and having him reveal and teach me all the little tweaks and changes and possibly have my enjoyment diminished somewhat.
I really don't know what to do at the moment - I sometimes get caught up in the excitement that my GMs have for PF and think I will get a copy, but then I think how long it will take me to read the damn book and the lost opportunity to read all the 3.5 and other RPG books I already own, and think I will just wait for the SRD and look stuff up as needed.
I disagree. I think that, if anything, the release of the PathfinderRPG (3.5 Thrives!) will revive the edition wars.
I really don't think Pathfinder's version of D&D will ignite edition wars any more than Arcana Unearthed, or Iron Heroes, or True20, or various other OGL games based on 3.0/3.5 D&D.
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I applaud the philosophy of respect for others' choices that inspires Vic's post. As many have said before, being different does not mean being bad.
But the war between publishers, whether acknowledged or not, definitely rages on. It is a war for sales, for audience, in short a war for resources that will help their game survive and thrive : the best artists, the best developpers, the best writers, the best designers, the best editors and so on.
My hope is that with Vic's post, that war is waged fairly, so that the best publisher wins and we, the customers and fans of all the games they all work on, can enjoy the fruits of their labor.
I applaud the philosophy of respect for others' choices that inspires Vic's post. As many have said before, being different does not mean being bad.
But the war between publishers, whether acknowledged or not, definitely rages on. It is a war for sales, for audience, in short a war for resources that will help their game survive and thrive : the best artists, the best developpers, the best writers, the best designers, the best editors and so on.
My hope is that with Vic's post, that war is waged fairly, so that the best publisher wins and we, the customers and fans of all the games they all work on, can enjoy the fruits of their labor.
I don't think that at all.
I could be wrong, but I believe that the number of customers "on the fence" between Pathfinder and 4e (those who will buy Pathfinder if it does well or buy 4e books if Pathfinder does poorly) are a small minority of customers. I certianly don't believe that any 4e gamers are going to stop playing 4e and come over to Pathfinder, no matter how successful it is.
I think what we do have are gamers who bought 4e, were disappointed by it, and are now happy to have an alternative. If Pathfinder had never happened, though, I think those gamers would have just branched out into different systems or even different hobbies. They would have dispersed.
What is love
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Don't hurt me no more
Oh, baby don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more
What is love
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