How much can you do with quick draw (sheath weapons and draw?)

[The Outlaw Josie Whales]

I am working on a character with a player and we are wondering how much can be done with quickdraw.

He wants to dual wield but as we understand it attacking with two weapons take both the move and standard action ie you can't move 30ft and attack in the same turn. Are we understanding this correctly?

If so we started working on options such as initially starting with one weapon readied allowing him to move/ charge etc and engage then we he is in a static position, draw the second weapon and attack (quick draw)

But can he for example, switch from a bow to a sword using quick draw?

or sheath the dual swords, take his bow from his shoulder and start firing?

Just looking for some clarification on what can and cannot happen. thanks

[Ughbash]

The Outlaw Josie Whales wrote:

I am working on a character with a player and we are wondering how much can be done with quickdraw.

He wants to dual wield but as we understand it attacking with two weapons take both the move and standard action ie you can't move 30ft and attack in the same turn. Are we understanding this correctly?

If so we started working on options such as initially starting with one weapon readied allowing him to move/ charge etc and engage then we he is in a static position, draw the second weapon and attack (quick draw)

But can he for example, switch from a bow to a sword using quick draw?

or sheath the dual swords, take his bow from his shoulder and start firing?

Just looking for some clarification on what can and cannot happen. thanks

Quickdraw is immaterial to the argument. To dual wield he needs to use a full attack action. This is not either a move or a standard action and is all he can do. So unless he gets a special feat (bounding assault Spring attack for dual wield) he will not ever be able to move and then attack with both weapons.

Now quickdraw will still be useful for getting both of his weaposn drawn, but it is the full attack option not being a standard move that stops his movement and attack with each weapon.

[Morgen]

Quickdraw (unless it's changed) also does now allow you to quickly sheathe weapons, only draw them. You can drop them as a free action, but to sheathe a weapon you need to either do it while performing a move action if you've got a Base Attack Bonus of +1 or more, or spend a move action to do it.

[Cormac]

Morgen wrote:

Quickdraw (unless it's changed) also does now allow you to quickly sheathe weapons, only draw them. You can drop them as a free action, but to sheathe a weapon you need to either do it while performing a move action if you've got a Base Attack Bonus of +1 or more, or spend a move action to do it.

I think BAB +1 allows you to only draw weapon with regular move, not to sheathe.

[Skeld]

Cormac wrote:

I think BAB +1 allows you to only draw weapon with regular move, not to sheathe.

Correct. Drawing a weapon is a Move action. If you have BAB +1 or higher, you can draw your weapon as part of a normal move. If you are dual-wielding, you can draw both weapons during you move (provided they are light weapons).

I doubt this has changed with PFRPG.

-Skeld

[Morgen]

Skeld wrote:

Cormac wrote:

I think BAB +1 allows you to only draw weapon with regular move, not to sheathe.

Correct. Drawing a weapon is a Move action. If you have BAB +1 or higher, you can draw your weapon as part of a normal move. If you are dual-wielding, you can draw both weapons during you move (provided they are light weapons).

I doubt this has changed with PFRPG.

-Skeld

Oops, right, I was thinking of Readying or Loosing a shield. x.x;

[Asgetrion]

Morgen wrote:

Skeld wrote:

Cormac wrote:

I think BAB +1 allows you to only draw weapon with regular move, not to sheathe.

Correct. Drawing a weapon is a Move action. If you have BAB +1 or higher, you can draw your weapon as part of a normal move. If you are dual-wielding, you can draw both weapons during you move (provided they are light weapons).

I doubt this has changed with PFRPG.

-Skeld

Oops, right, I was thinking of Readying or Loosing a shield. x.x;

I think 'Quick Draw' allows you to draw your shield as a free action -- in fact, I think it allows you to draw *both* your weapon and shield or two weapons (if you're dual-wielding). I may be wrong, but I think someone in my group recently checked this in the Beta rules.

[Takamonk]

Unless it is changed, the handy haversack is broken such that you could conceivably stow away something and pull something else out in the same action (assuming the items are light), but Quick Draw doesn't really allow you to speed that process up.