Good for you thats what i should do with mine all they do is gather dust.
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Good for you!
My group is still teetering between editions so I am not sure I could do that. I do know that of the books I purchased, only three of them are seeing regular use in my 4e game. I have a friggin' DDI subscription and the only thing that gets used is the Character Builder. :( A bit of wasted money.
I don't hate the game. The modules for 4e do suck pretty badly. The work to make them palatable has been extreme. But I don't hate the game. I just happen to prefer things like Vancian magic and discrete classes.
But gods, I wish we could get past this whole edition doubt. It has been a year! Of course, I have the most doubt as the players don't see what goes on behind the screen. But I am sensing some frustration from others.
We get to play PFRPG game sometime after its release, to make the comparison. I am tempted to buy the books for my entire crew just so I know the transition is painless for them. If it wins, we get to stick with Pathfinder.
Bye, Bye 4.0. I sold all seven of the 4.0 books to a used book store and Pre-Ordered PFRPG book with the proceeds! I feel so... liberated. =)
Great! Now the only thing to do is let go of those stuffy dung beetle worshippers and get yourself aligned correctly. Instead of wasting your efforts, help Cheliax take over Absalom. The place needs a new management, anyway.
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Great! Now the only thing to do is let go of those stuffy dung beetle worshippers and get yourself aligned correctly. Instead of wasting your efforts, help Cheliax take over Absalom. The place needs a new management, anyway.
As the sun rolls across the sky, so will Osirion roll across mincing Cheliax with as much thought. Our day was glorious once. Our day will be gloroious again! Thus is the wisdom of the Sapphire Sage!
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Great! Now the only thing to do is let go of those stuffy dung beetle worshippers and get yourself aligned correctly. Instead of wasting your efforts, help Cheliax take over Absalom. The place needs a new management, anyway.As the sun rolls across the sky, so will Osirion roll across mincing Cheliax with as much thought. Our day was glorious once. Our day will be gloroious again! Thus is the wisdom of the Sapphire Sage!
Please. Once we pry ourselves from our gilded thrones, unweave the roses from our hair, and change out of these precious silks for something more practical, you will see the full might of Taldor!
Great! Now the only thing to do is let go of those stuffy dung beetle worshippers and get yourself aligned correctly. Instead of wasting your efforts, help Cheliax take over Absalom. The place needs a new management, anyway.As the sun rolls across the sky, so will Osirion roll across mincing Cheliax with as much thought. Our day was glorious once. Our day will be gloroious again! Thus is the wisdom of the Sapphire Sage!
Will that be before or after foreigners are done pillaging your ruins with your own consent?
Please. Once we pry ourselves from our gilded thrones, unweave the roses from our hair, and change out of these precious silks for something more practical, you will see the full might of Taldor!
Oh my god! They will flood us with money and brigands!
If only our countries were for sale.
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Oh my god! They will flood us with money and brigands!
If only our countries were for sale.
I would make you pay for such remarks. But dinner has just arrived and I was promised a perfumed foot massage afterwards. But then, then I will mount my trusty steed and ride across your lands like a plague. Presuming, of course, I can re-schedule my weekly chess game with the Duke. He always serves the finest wines. I would be loathe to miss it.
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Please. Once we pry ourselves from our gilded thrones, unweave the roses from our hair, and change out of these precious silks for something more practical, you will see the full might of Taldor!Oh my god! They will flood us with money and brigands!
If only our countries were for sale.
Everything is for sale, it's only a question of setting the price.
Great! Now the only thing to do is let go of those stuffy dung beetle worshippers and get yourself aligned correctly. Instead of wasting your efforts, help Cheliax take over Absalom. The place needs a new management, anyway.
When my master emerges from his sleep, he will crush this puny little devil-worshipping humans to the south with the might of his gigantic army.
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So, where did I put this blasted key?
Bye, Bye 4.0. I sold all seven of the 4.0 books to a used book store and Pre-Ordered PFRPG book with the proceeds! I feel so... liberated. =)
Oh my dear God, Spiffy Jim... you literally bring a tear to my eye.
Congratulations!!
I still have my core three. Mabye it's time I learned from a much braver individual and did as you.
Thanks!
(I was wondering how I was going to afford PF. ;) )
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Bye, Bye 4.0. I sold all seven of the 4.0 books to a used book store and Pre-Ordered PFRPG book with the proceeds! I feel so... liberated. =)
Well done... I'm actually going one farther and trying to sell all my 3.5 stuff right now. Sold about half my Core stuff by now, but I'm stuck with all the Realms stuff. Apparently not as many people as I thought are enthralled with the Realms...
Where exactly are you guys selling these things? I have my 4th and my 3.5 stuff I want to get rid of.
I still have the core three books. Now that you mention it though, I could use a little more space in my bookshelf.
Where exactly are you guys selling these things? I have my 4th and my 3.5 stuff I want to get rid of.
E-Bay.
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I managed to sell some of my stuff through constant postings on Craig's list and Kijiji
I don't trust eBay anymore due to the multiple fishing schemes going around (people sending you emails or links to websites that look like they are from eBay, but aren't). Since eBay doesn't seem to be cracking down and since eBay usually involves shipping instead of Craig's list / Kijiji relying on local people driving to your home thus no cost to you and less work, eBay has gone the way of the flumph in my case anyways...
I would make you pay for such remarks. But dinner has just arrived and I was promised a perfumed foot massage afterwards. But then, then I will mount my trusty steed and ride across your lands like a plague. Presuming, of course, I can re-schedule my weekly chess game with the Duke. He always serves the finest wines. I would be loathe to miss it.
Oh my god! They will flood us with money and brigands!
If only our countries were for sale.
And that's why we'll win. Battlefield foot massages. By Erinyes.
When my master emerges from his sleep, he will crush this puny little devil-worshipping humans to the south with the might of his gigantic army.
But he never will. I periodically sneak up on him and deepen his sleep with a whack to the head.
I feel so... liberated. =)I'm a little confused here. What were you "liberated" from? Financial difficulty? If so, wouldn't a new subscription be the last thing you'd want after securing some much needed cash from the sale?
Not cool. Just walk away from the thread. The pro-4e-part of the boards is further down.
......and also free of dreck. Sorry, that was in bad taste certainly, but Wizards did kill my two favorite magazines and I'm still not over it.
Hey, Wizards killed my two favorite magazines as well. But their doing so created...
* My favorite new game system.
* My favorite new campaign setting.
* My favorite new monthly publication
* My favorite new company to rally around.
I'd say it's an even trade.
Hey, Jim. Is this what made you "spiffy"?
But did he buy the spats with the money he made, or did people give him the spats as a celebratory gift? I think there may still be a connection between his move and the spiffiness currently attaching to him that call for further exploration.
Not cool. Just walk away from the thread. The pro-4e-part of the boards is further down.I feel so... liberated. =)I'm a little confused here. What were you "liberated" from? Financial difficulty? If so, wouldn't a new subscription be the last thing you'd want after securing some much needed cash from the sale?
Come on, KaeYoss. He didn't even say anything about either edition. He was probably asking a completely honest question. This is getting out of hand.
4e fans: the second-class citizens of the Paizo boards.
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Not cool. Just walk away from the thread. The pro-4e-part of the boards is further down.I feel so... liberated. =)I'm a little confused here. What were you "liberated" from? Financial difficulty? If so, wouldn't a new subscription be the last thing you'd want after securing some much needed cash from the sale?Come on, KaeYoss. He didn't even say anything about either edition. He was probably asking a completely honest question. This is getting out of hand.
4e fans: the second-class citizens of the Paizo boards.
Not to go more off topic but Scotty boy, that's hardly fair to say. Because a few people say something then you throw yourselves down as second-class citizens on the boards? I hate to even get involved in this crap (as in on either end) but that does just come off as making you look bad.
Admittedly telling the person to move on might not have been the best move either since the comment was not stating anything about edition (which you are right on). Should have stopped your comment there and it would have looked a lot better on you.
However reading between the lines it might sound like the post IS picking a little since I don't (personally) see what's to be confused about in his statement and that the poster IS in fact picking a bit at the OP's post without coming right out and saying it.
Anyway it's all unneeded. This sounded like a fun little post lets not turn it into another back and forth thread. Let's all be the bigger man and just relax and let it all go :D
To the OP; I sold my 4E books to my older brother who doesn't mind the system. 35 bucks for both the PHB and DMG. He got a good deal off of it and I got more money for Pathfinder stuff. It was a win win. 4e wasn't my taste but my bro doesn't hate it so more power to him. Like me, you just supplied someone else's taste for cheaper. AND you got money :D It's a win win (though not for Wizards since that's two less new books they sell but that's not our problem :P )
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Actually, the irritation is being told not to post about 4e (or more specifically, pro-4e, since this whole thread is about the edition wars and the OP mentions it, obviously in a negative light) outside the 4e threads. And it is basically just KaeYoss, who has problems dealing rationally with the fact that some people actually do like 4e, who does that. I myself have been told not to post about 4e by him outside a 4e thread, when it was a brief exchange and someone else brought up the subject (negatively, which he didn't mind) and I clarified. KaeYoss also had a habit (although he has given it up of late) of popping up on the 4e boards to vent about 4e everytime someone started up a new thread, which became increasingly irritating. So this is basically about KaeYoss and his hypocritical attitude rather than people having a problem about anyone giving up 4e (though why the OP wanted to kick off the edition wars again, I'm not entirely sure - I'm buying Pathfinder too, and probably so are most of the pro-4e posters here).
And "Scotty boy"? It's not a good idea to ask people to chill out after being incredibly patronising - it rather undermines your case.
Come on, KaeYoss. He didn't even say anything about either edition.
The implication was clear.
He was probably asking a completely honest question. This is getting out of hand.4e fans: the second-class citizens of the Paizo boards.
You are the one to talk. Whenever someone says something about 4e in the 4e boards that doesn't amount to a loveletter, you bully them away, as if 4e fans were as thinskinned as a dewdrop.
But do it the other way around, and it's a pogrom all of a sudden.
And of course 4e fans cannot hope to get the most out of these boards. Paizo doesn't do 4e. So you don't get as much out of the boards than PF fans, who can talk to the designers of their game. You're lucky you get a forum of your own like that.
Do PF fans get their own part of the boards on wizards, complete with a reminder not to be rude?
Actually, the irritation is being told not to post about 4e (or more specifically, pro-4e, since this whole thread is about the edition wars and the OP mentions it, obviously in a negative light) outside the 4e threads. And it is basically just KaeYoss, who has problems dealing rationally with the fact that some people actually do like 4e, who does that. I myself have been told not to post about 4e by him outside a 4e thread, when it was a brief exchange and someone else brought up the subject (negatively, which he didn't mind) and I clarified. KaeYoss also had a habit (although he has given it up of late) of popping up on the 4e boards to vent about 4e everytime someone started up a new thread, which became increasingly irritating. So this is basically about KaeYoss and his hypocritical attitude rather than people having a problem about anyone giving up 4e (though why the OP wanted to kick off the edition wars again, I'm not entirely sure - I'm buying Pathfinder too, and probably so are most of the pro-4e posters here).
And "Scotty boy"? It's not a good idea to ask people to chill out after being incredibly patronising - it rather undermines your case.
Interesting that you completely overlook your own double standard while bashing me.
And it is basically just KaeYoss, who has problems dealing rationally with the fact that some people actually do like 4e, who does that.
What's not to love about WotCs new tactical strategy game? I like other tactical strategy games, like Descent, Arkham Horror, and Betrayal at House on the Hill. Heck, I'm even willing to sit down and play a bit if it's just running some snap-together characters through a dungeon. If I want to play an RPG though, I'll play Pathfinder, or True20, or Traveller, or Call of Cthulhu, or a few others.
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Actually, the irritation is being told not to post about 4e (or more specifically, pro-4e, since this whole thread is about the edition wars and the OP mentions it, obviously in a negative light) outside the 4e threads. And it is basically just KaeYoss, who has problems dealing rationally with the fact that some people actually do like 4e, who does that. I myself have been told not to post about 4e by him outside a 4e thread, when it was a brief exchange and someone else brought up the subject (negatively, which he didn't mind) and I clarified. KaeYoss also had a habit (although he has given it up of late) of popping up on the 4e boards to vent about 4e everytime someone started up a new thread, which became increasingly irritating. So this is basically about KaeYoss and his hypocritical attitude rather than people having a problem about anyone giving up 4e (though why the OP wanted to kick off the edition wars again, I'm not entirely sure - I'm buying Pathfinder too, and probably so are most of the pro-4e posters here).
And "Scotty boy"? It's not a good idea to ask people to chill out after being incredibly patronising - it rather undermines your case.
First off Scotty boy was supposed to be just a fun nick name. Not condescending and this is the internet so I didn't think about that when I posted it since my meaning and tone doesn't really roll over well. For that, if it offended, I assure it wasn't my intent. I'm just a big fan with adding Y at the end of things. I promise though it wasn't meant to be malicious T_T
And yes, some people have a hard time with things. I've seen it before with people on the other side of the fence too. ... I ignored them though. It's one of those people that aren't going to change and/or learn. You meet people like that IRL too ... and I ignore them too.
I guess I don't see why everyone has to try and be right, ya know? Why argue with someone over it? Why sink down TO argue? Some things are worth mentioning or arguing over ... but not usually. It always turns into the same page of back and forth useless stuff that never gets anywhere. So why not just let it go?
I cant say for sure what the OP found liberating but it may be that it was from finally making a decision to go one way after a period of indecision.
Not meaning that 4e is stifling or whatever but just that it is nice to move from uncertainty to a clear direction. Even in gaming.
It is quite a lot of work to 'learn' a new system and to keep swapping between 2 similar ones, especially if you dont play all the time.
I am playing 3.5 & am looking forward to pathfinder but am holding onto my 4e books (original 3) for the moment. I will no doubt at some stage in the future visit the 4e section to ask how the devotees of that iteration of the game are enjoying it a couple of years down the track, what the flavor is like for them having really got into it and what bits they enjoy most.
The reason why I do not play 4e is not the game, which is not that bad, IMHO. It is the company. If someone said to me, did you want to play some 4e, I would say Yes. I just will not buy any more books. 4e, 3e, 1e, 2e. It is just a game. Have fun and enjoy yourselves! Stop the flame wars!!! ~GRINS~
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What were you "liberated" from?I think he's saying he was liberated from having to decide which system he'd like to play each time he gets a group together. Cutting his collection down to one set of core rules, he's now free from ambivalence and fence-sitting.
Ah. Makes sense. Know the feeling. I'm running/playing DnD 4e; Savage World; and WoD. Adding Pathfinder RPG once it's released in August.
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Come on, KaeYoss. He didn't even say anything about either edition. He was probably asking a completely honest question.Not cool. Just walk away from the thread. The pro-4e-part of the boards is further down.I feel so... liberated. =)I'm a little confused here. What were you "liberated" from? Financial difficulty? If so, wouldn't a new subscription be the last thing you'd want after securing some much needed cash from the sale?
EXACTLY.
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The implication was clear.
Come on, KaeYoss. He didn't even say anything about either edition.
No, it wasn't. I see a post about a guy feeling relief from selling some books. Curious about said relief. That's it.
Ah, so the "implication" is relief from playing(?) a certain game? Sounds like the game wasn't for you and I hope you enjoy whatever game(s) you do enjoy.
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Ah. Makes sense. Know the feeling. I'm running/playing DnD 4e; Savage World; and WoD. Adding Pathfinder RPG once it's released in August.What were you "liberated" from?I think he's saying he was liberated from having to decide which system he'd like to play each time he gets a group together. Cutting his collection down to one set of core rules, he's now free from ambivalence and fence-sitting.
What is messed up is that currently I am not playing or running any game...other then at Conventions once or twice a year.. And I am still spending tons of money on Pathfinder, 4e *Only player relevant books since I don't like GMing 4e*, WoD books and other assorted RPGs. I most likely spend close to $300 a month on RPGs I never get to play!... Am I broken? ;-)
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The reason why I do not play 4e is not the game, which is not that bad, IMHO. It is the company. If someone said to me, did you want to play some 4e, I would say Yes. I just will not buy any more books. 4e, 3e, 1e, 2e. It is just a game. Have fun and enjoy yourselves! Stop the flame wars!!! ~GRINS~
See this is also my view on things. I guess I feel like I'm screwing up with my words when I talk but I don't understand why we have to argue/fight so much. I don't punch my wife in the face because she likes chocolate ice cream better then vanilla. We just have different tastes :D
... plus if I did that she'd wipe the floor with me >_>
And I also agree that if someone offered me to play in a 4e game I might actually play it (Avengers ARE an amazing class I actually like) even though I don't care for it much. I won't buy anymore books for the system or anything but I like hanging out with people and trying to have a good time :D
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And of course 4e fans cannot hope to get the most out of these boards. Paizo doesn't do 4e. So you don't get as much out of the boards than PF fans, who can talk to the designers of their game. You're lucky you get a forum of your own like that.
Do PF fans get their own part of the boards on wizards, complete with a reminder not to be rude?
Green Ronin Publishing doesn't have a specific forum for DnD or the PfRPG, either. Are you "implying" Paizo should go in that direction? Remember that WotC is a company that sells very specific products. Paizo, on the other hand, is an on-line game manufacturer and seller that offers a wide range of products, including 4th edition, with its own rpg system as well. Makes perfect business sense to have some space for the World's Most Popular RPG (after Pokemon: RPG, of course :).