Go and visit the oncology ward. Seriously. Like visiting a slaughter house makes you cut down on meat. Meet some of the folk who thought that quitting was too hard, and the glamour will fall off of those stinking burning leaves.
Think of the poverty of tobacco farmworkers in the third world too.
Think of the tobacco lobby keeping marijuana illegal, and locking up all those poor kids for toking on a joint.
I have seen what cancer does...I have seen trechs...
Marlboro was all for the legalazation of marijauana...they had teh new packs for them and all...none the less, the legalizing of that makes no difference to me, I have a brother who is a wake and bake kid and I hate weed, he is a lazy no good who can't go an hour without getting high, lock em up for all i care....besides,....its just a civil offense now...a ticket that you go and pay at the clerk of court...or at least it is here...
And, of course, you do realize the very serious side effect of this exercise program. :P
Three packs a day?! Holy Cow! I only smoke like less than a pack!
Well i am also worried about weight gain...I am tryng to lose weight...hence the salad and yogurt... I have seen that quitting smoking makes you gain some serious weight, and I already am about 15 lbs overweight![Billy Mays voice]Try the latest in home exercise prgrams!
SEX-ercise! You'll lose weight and Moorluck will walk around with a grin all day long!
Order now for instructional home videos! Or send in your own![/Billy Mays voice]
lol, you would be surprised at how many calories you burn during a rousing...uhm session....;)
Send in our OWN???!!! 8O lol
No what? :/
No what? :/And, of course, you do realize the very serious side effect of this exercise program. :P
Three packs a day?! Holy Cow! I only smoke like less than a pack!
Well i am also worried about weight gain...I am tryng to lose weight...hence the salad and yogurt... I have seen that quitting smoking makes you gain some serious weight, and I already am about 15 lbs overweight![Billy Mays voice]Try the latest in home exercise prgrams!
SEX-ercise! You'll lose weight and Moorluck will walk around with a grin all day long!
Order now for instructional home videos! Or send in your own![/Billy Mays voice]
lol, you would be surprised at how many calories you burn during a rousing...uhm session....;)
Send in our OWN???!!! 8O lol
Go and visit the oncology ward. Seriously. Like visiting a slaughter house makes you cut down on meat. Meet some of the folk who thought that quitting was too hard, and the glamour will fall off of those stinking burning leaves.
Think of the poverty of tobacco farmworkers in the third world too.
Think of the tobacco lobby keeping marijuana illegal, and locking up all those poor kids for toking on a joint.
Question, do you and Moorluck smoke around the kids?
Do you smoke indoors where the second-hand smoke will linger?
Actually, after your exams, you and Moorluck should both consider cutting your subsidies to the government (look at how much taxes are layered on cigarrettes).
I don't smoke in the car...we try and take it outside as often as possible, no where near the kids rooms, we have fans and filters throughout the house...when we eat out we sit in the non smoking section....
We have talked about it, I wouldn't mind quitting...its the actualy quitting I have issues with, I am not good with the cravings, I get very snippy, and I don't want to gain weight....
No what? :/And, of course, you do realize the very serious side effect of this exercise program. :P
Three packs a day?! Holy Cow! I only smoke like less than a pack!
Well i am also worried about weight gain...I am tryng to lose weight...hence the salad and yogurt... I have seen that quitting smoking makes you gain some serious weight, and I already am about 15 lbs overweight![Billy Mays voice]Try the latest in home exercise prgrams!
SEX-ercise! You'll lose weight and Moorluck will walk around with a grin all day long!
Order now for instructional home videos! Or send in your own![/Billy Mays voice]
lol, you would be surprised at how many calories you burn during a rousing...uhm session....;)
Send in our OWN???!!! 8O lol
*giggle*
If you are hinting at the pregnancy side effect..well I don't worry on that so much since my surgery...once we realized what was causing me to become pregnant every other year... we took measures to stop this! ;)
Inhaling toxic fumes is hardly a sensible weight loss strategy.
I came off as strident for a reason. It really is hard to quit. The tactic that worked for me was to get a serious hate-on for the tobacco industry and its filthy, deadly product.
No industry is as evil as the tobacco companies.
Go and visit the oncology ward. Seriously. Like visiting a slaughter house makes you cut down on meat. Meet some of the folk who thought that quitting was too hard, and the glamour will fall off of those stinking burning leaves.
Think of the poverty of tobacco farmworkers in the third world too.
Think of the tobacco lobby keeping marijuana illegal, and locking up all those poor kids for toking on a joint.
Question, do you and Moorluck smoke around the kids?
Do you smoke indoors where the second-hand smoke will linger?
Actually, after your exams, you and Moorluck should both consider cutting your subsidies to the government (look at how much taxes are layered on cigarrettes).
I don't smoke in the car...we try and take it outside as often as possible, no where near the kids rooms, we have fans and filters throughout the house...when we eat out we sit in the non smoking section....
We have talked about it, I wouldn't mind quitting...its the actualy quitting I have issues with, I am not good with the cravings, I get very snippy, and I don't want to gain weight....
Well, since you are fussing about your weight ... have you considered? (link)
Woman! Think about the !
The cravings are there because the cigarettes hijack part of your brain. You can't be happy and calm without cigarettes because they are designed to create a niche in your life and then fill it.
If you quit, you will stop being a collaborator in your enslavement.
I'm not defending myself, I agree with you all. For the most part. I don't have a hate on for smokes or the companies that produce them. My reasons are pure selfish, I don't want to gain weight, I am weak, and I enjoy it...truly. It is my 5 minute breal that is for just me...and I know I know that with second hand smoke it isn't just me.
I do wish to quit...and am willing to listen to real options...not just lectures...do you all have ideas to help? With the cravings? The weight gain? Anything that helps keep your mind off of it?
Here is something relevant.
Go and visit the oncology ward. Seriously. Like visiting a slaughter house makes you cut down on meat. Meet some of the folk who thought that quitting was too hard, and the glamour will fall off of those stinking burning leaves.
Think of the poverty of tobacco farmworkers in the third world too.
Think of the tobacco lobby keeping marijuana illegal, and locking up all those poor kids for toking on a joint.
Question, do you and Moorluck smoke around the kids?
Do you smoke indoors where the second-hand smoke will linger?
Actually, after your exams, you and Moorluck should both consider cutting your subsidies to the government (look at how much taxes are layered on cigarrettes).
I don't smoke in the car...we try and take it outside as often as possible, no where near the kids rooms, we have fans and filters throughout the house...when we eat out we sit in the non smoking section....
We have talked about it, I wouldn't mind quitting...its the actualy quitting I have issues with, I am not good with the cravings, I get very snippy, and I don't want to gain weight....Well, since you are fussing about your weight ... have you considered? (link)
Woman! Think about the !
I actually did quit for a while, when i was pregnant and mostly while I was nursing...the thinking of boobies reminded me of this...but there is nothing like child labor to bring back that need!
Here is something relevant.
Watching
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I saw this on another thread.
This move reminded me of just how much of our culture is owned lock, stock and barrel by massive megacorporations who speak of exploiting it. And that will probably never change in our lifetime. I'm confident that when I'm 90 and on my death bed, Disney will still own the copyright to good old Mickey Mouse.
If you ask me, intellectual property isthe biggest abuse that our system has. Imean how to we expect peopl to keep generating new and exciting ideas if we perpetuate this idea tht somehow you should be able to reap the rewards of your ideas and expect to not have them stolen by others. Think of what a richer, more inspired world this would be if we allowed ideas to be free and let everyone use them however they want. Copyrights and trademarks are a drag man.
I find it surprising that my brother is a drug user...weed, pills, he even tried coke...and more I am sure...but I have never even seen anything past weed. How is that? Growing up we had the same friends..same parents...eh...just speculating..
How I quit.
I was on a beach in Thailand. It was perfect. I had just finished a dive over lush coral reefs. There was a slight breeze, and the sun was going down in splendor. The woman I loved was reading a Bill Bryson book and giggling. I had a history text that I was really enjoying, and I was unhappy.
I was unhappy because I had run out of smokes.
All I could think about was getting another pack.
I thought about my history with cigarettes. How much a part of me they had become, and suddenly I got white hot with anger that I had let things come to this. that I could not be happy without buying a product that has a high probability of killing me in a truly horrific way.
I decided out of the blue that I would never have a cigarette again. That was the 14 February 2004.
It was very difficult the first day. My lover was a smoker. She smoked, and I didn't. If I felt like I could not take it, I just thought to myself that I do not deserve to be a prisoner, a capitulator, a victim, of an addictive drug.
I learned to hate cigarettes. I didn't accept them anymore.
I didn't accept that they were irreplaceable, or my friends, or a well earned break.
I just basically told my nicotine habit that it was no longer welcome.
I did put on some weight, but I started walking every day, and got down to a comfortable 100kg. I am six foot two. 100kg is fine.
I don't even have cravings anymore.
I can't imagine ever being nicotines b&++$ again.
I tried snorting Coke once. It burned as it went in and I couldn't get the ice cubes up the straw. I think I'll stick with Pepsi
ouch....:)
How I quit.
I was on a beach in Thailand. It was perfect. I had just finished a dive over lush coral reefs. There was a slight breeze, and the sun was going down in splendor. The woman I loved was reading a Bill Bryson book and giggling. I had a history text that I was really enjoying, and I was unhappy.
I was unhappy because I had run out of smokes.
All I could think about was getting another pack.
I thought about my history with cigarettes. How much a part of me they had become, and suddenly I got white hot with anger that I had let things come to this. that I could not be happy without buying a product that has a high probability of killing me in a truly horrific way.
I decided out of the blue that I would never have a cigarette again. That was the 14 February 2004.
It was very difficult the first day. My lover was a smoker. She smoked, and I didn't. If I felt like I could not take it, I just thought to myself that I do not deserve to be a prisoner, a capitulator, a victim, of an addictive drug.
I learned to hate cigarettes. I didn't accept them anymore.
I didn't accept that they were irreplaceable, or my friends, or a well earned break.
I just basically told my nicotine habit that it was no longer welcome.
I did put on some weight, but I started walking every day, and got down to a comfortable 100kg. I am six foot two. 100kg is fine.
I don't even have cravings anymore.
I can't imagine ever being nicotines b#@!! again.
I find that I am worse in the morning if i am out...right after i wake up..
Mrs. Mairkurion is Thai and a smoker. (You guys are used to my stream-of-consciousness, right?)
Sigh. My grandfather died an early, slow, and miserable death from emphysema. I wish she would quit.
I have always lessened my addiction with the thought ..."well at leat I don't do drugs, I don't drink regularly"....and so on and so on.... and it does help with stress levels...
3 left in the pack...going to attempt to just not buy a new pack...as broke as I am this may actually be a successful attempt...
My mom basically disowned me because I showed concern for her deteriorating health brought on by smoking. I haven't talked to her for over 5 years now.
Oh yeah, happy morning everyone!
How much do you spend on cigarettes a year?
Now that I have that out of my system, lets move on. Boobies!
We are taking a break from the boobies to lecture on the dangers of smoking and to give me tips on how to quit smoking...the documentary is actually interesting...thinking of emailing the link to my brother..
My mom basically disowned me because I showed concern for her deteriorating health brought on by smoking. I haven't talked to her for over 5 years now.
Oh yeah, happy morning everyone!
Now thats sad....:(
I have always lessened my addiction with the thought ..."well at leat I don't do drugs, I don't drink regularly"....and so on and so on.... and it does help with stress levels...
My wife used to use the "at least you don't do drugs and you're not an alcoholic" line on me in regards to my expensive geeky hobbies (gaming and comics).
How much do you spend on cigarettes a year?
uhm...figure 8 dollars a day (for the both of us) 365 days a year...I don't have a calculator..and my mind is shut down of math...what is that?
Now thats sad....:(My mom basically disowned me because I showed concern for her deteriorating health brought on by smoking. I haven't talked to her for over 5 years now.
Oh yeah, happy morning everyone!
Sorry. I'm kinda bumming a lot of people out this morning.
its ok, get it out here! You know we'll still love ya in the morning! :)
$1460 each. $2920 both.
How much do you spend on cigarettes a year?uhm...figure 8 dollars a day (for the both of us) 365 days a year...I don't have a calculator..and my mind is shut down of math...what is that?
$2920.
Ask your insurance agent what your premium is for smoking.
If you have medical aid, find out what smoking related diseases they don't cover.
$2920.How much do you spend on cigarettes a year?uhm...figure 8 dollars a day (for the both of us) 365 days a year...I don't have a calculator..and my mind is shut down of math...what is that?
OMG! Wow! Thats alot! Thats like 6 months worth of rent!
its ok, get it out here! You know we'll still love ya in the morning! :)Now thats sad....:(My mom basically disowned me because I showed concern for her deteriorating health brought on by smoking. I haven't talked to her for over 5 years now.
Oh yeah, happy morning everyone!
Sorry. I'm kinda bumming a lot of people out this morning.
Hee hee. Thanks.
Now that I've had my drive-through posting for the morning, back to work. >-(
Edit: Top of the page! Yay!
And...
Boobs!
Ask your insurance agent what your premium is for smoking.
If you have medical aid, find out what smoking related diseases they don't cover.
Don't have insurance at the moment, but I do know that it is more expensive for smokers...
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I saw this on another thread.This move reminded me of just how much of our culture is owned lock, stock and barrel by massive megacorporations who speak of exploiting it. And that will probably never change in our lifetime. I'm confident that when I'm 90 and on my death bed, Disney will still own the copyright to good old Mickey Mouse.If you ask me, intellectual property isthe biggest abuse that our system has. Imean how to we expect peopl to keep generating new and exciting ideas if we perpetuate this idea tht somehow you should be able to reap the rewards of your ideas and expect to not have them stolen by others. Think of what a richer, more inspired world this would be if we allowed ideas to be free and let everyone use them however they want. Copyrights and trademarks are a drag man.
+1
Obviously copyright has its place. No author wants to see pirated copies of their books out there a week after they are released, but Disney in particular is ridiculous.
Books, music, and films made as long ago as the 1920s by people who died almost as long ago are still under copyright. Surely by now Gershwin's Porgy and Bess, Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby, and Virginia Woolf's A Room of One's Own are part of our collective cultural heritage - but people still "own" all of those.
What will the tuition fees for your first child in university be?
its ok, get it out here! You know we'll still love ya in the morning! :)Now thats sad....:(My mom basically disowned me because I showed concern for her deteriorating health brought on by smoking. I haven't talked to her for over 5 years now.
Oh yeah, happy morning everyone!
Sorry. I'm kinda bumming a lot of people out this morning.
Hee hee. Thanks.
Now that I've had my drive-through posting for the morning, back to work. >-(
Edit: Top of the page! Yay!
And...** spoiler omitted **
Work? What is this work you speak of!
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I don't smoke, for many reasons but mainly becaue I am allergic to tobacco. Imagine my chagrine and discomfort when one day I as assigned to partner with guy who ended up smoking eight packs during a twelve hour shift and we were stuck in a Humvee for most of it. For the first time in muy life Iprayed for wa to break out, just so I could get out of that Humvee.
OMG! Wow! Thats alot! Thats like 6 months worth of rent!$2920.How much do you spend on cigarettes a year?uhm...figure 8 dollars a day (for the both of us) 365 days a year...I don't have a calculator..and my mind is shut down of math...what is that?
And, buying your copies of the Pathfinder RPG and Bestiary wouldn't be as much of a stress then. :)
Here is another one. YOu don't have insurance. How much does cancer cost to treat without insurance? Heart attack?
Could your habit bankrupt your family?
What will the tuition fees for your first child in university be?
?? Uhm..I have no idea..he is only 7, so 10 years in the future..I know I pay 1000 per class...
What will the tuition fees for your first child in university be??? Uhm..I have no idea..he is only 7, so 10 years in the future..I know I pay 1000 per class...
So you smoke three classes a year between you.
multiply by ten.
You will spend more than $30.000 in the time it takes for your oldest to get to the right age for uni.
I don't smoke, for many reasons but mainly becaue I am allergic to tobacco. Imagine my chagrine and discomfort when one day I as assigned to partner with guy who ended up smoking eight packs during a twelve hour shift and we were stuck in a Humvee for most of it. For the first time in muy life Iprayed for wa to break out, just so I could get out of that Humvee.
Thats alot of smokes for 12 hours!
I think we have beaten the horse to death (again).
Time to move back to a more interresting subject, like Ornithology. ;p
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The best way to quit smoking is never to start. I wish I had the power to find every kid out there who says "Hmm, that would be a good idea" and just SHAKE THEM! Seriously!
I've always been a habitual person, so I knew, even as a kid, that I'd be hooked if I ever tried cigarettes. Everyone who has quit or is trying to quit has my admiration.
And, buying your copies of the Pathfinder RPG and Bestiary wouldn't be as much of a stress then. :)OMG! Wow! Thats alot! Thats like 6 months worth of rent!$2920.How much do you spend on cigarettes a year?uhm...figure 8 dollars a day (for the both of us) 365 days a year...I don't have a calculator..and my mind is shut down of math...what is that?
More Pathfinder?!
More Pathfinder?!And, buying your copies of the Pathfinder RPG and Bestiary wouldn't be as much of a stress then. :)OMG! Wow! Thats alot! Thats like 6 months worth of rent!$2920.How much do you spend on cigarettes a year?uhm...figure 8 dollars a day (for the both of us) 365 days a year...I don't have a calculator..and my mind is shut down of math...what is that?
Yes!
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