Question on the write up for antimagic field


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I have a question on antimagic field spell from the web enhancment

their is a bit of flavor text at the end of page 3

(The effects of instantaneous conjurations are not affected by an
antimagic field because the conjuration itself is no longer in
effect, only its result.)

does this mean that if a fire ball spell is cast so it's center point is out side the field but a person in the area of effect is inside the field also are they effected by the spell.

sorry i know it sounds dumb


The key here is instantaneous Conjurations. A Fireball is an Evocation. Creatures brought to the world by Gate or Planar Ally would be good examples. Basically if you that read that section in full you're really seeing the difference between Summoned and Called creatures.

In the case of other instantaneous spell effects I'd play it by ear. In the case of Fireballs and other attack spells it is important to look at the descriptive part of text.

"A glowing, pea-sized bead streaks from the pointing digit and, unless it impacts upon a material body or solid barrier prior to attaining the prescribed range, blossoms into the fireball at that point."

The fireball pea will hit the edge of the AMF and be negated before it can detonate. Now here's a WTF thought, readied action to shoot a fireball pea with an arrow before it gets to far from the caster's finger. A hard shot true, but would have nasty consequences.


Dorje Sylas wrote:

The key here is instantaneous Conjurations. A Fireball is an Evocation. Creatures brought to the world by Gate or Planar Ally would be good examples. Basically if you that read that section in full you're really seeing the difference between Summoned and Called creatures.

In the case of other instantaneous spell effects I'd play it by ear. In the case of Fireballs and other attack spells it is important to look at the descriptive part of text.

"A glowing, pea-sized bead streaks from the pointing digit and, unless it impacts upon a material body or solid barrier prior to attaining the prescribed range, blossoms into the fireball at that point."

The fireball pea will hit the edge of the AMF and be negated before it can detonate. Now here's a WTF thought, readied action to shoot a fireball pea with an arrow before it gets to far from the caster's finger. A hard shot true, but would have nasty consequences.

ok not quite what i had mind player a is in a 10ft radius antimagic field

fireballs center is 15ft from the player is he affected

Sovereign Court

drashal wrote:

ok not quite what i had mind player a is in a 10ft radius antimagic field

fireballs center is 15ft from the player is he affected

No. The exception you mention only affects conjuration spells. The fireball will not affect the character in the antimagic field.

Scarab Sages

The question is still relevant if you reference the Orb Conjurations from Spell Compendium, which are instantaneous conjurations. I remember those who asked if you could cast the orb outside the field to someone inside it.

The general agreement is that it acts like a summon, it just 'poofs' when it hits the edge of the field.


The most common ruling I've seen, and agree with with, is that the part of the fireball that overlaps the AMF would be suppressed. Basically it would leave a 10 ft. wide hole in the fireball blast.

*edit*

The Orb spells are delightfully divisive. Also a good example of how someone creating new rules can fail to check up on the unindented consequences. Actually I was thinking of pointing out something like that as an example of a RAW reading. Good thing they aren't open content.

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