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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
flynnster wrote:
Come on now...not EVERYONE is ready for college. Not everyone NEEDS to go! And what in the world ever happened to vocational schools?
FINALLY! Someone agrees with me!

Muwahahahaha...my plan has begin to reach fruition....muwahahahahaha...


Ah ain't nevuh went ta kollij neither. Ah learnt evythang ah needed ta knowed from muh pappy an muh granpappy.

Sovereign Court

drunken_nomad wrote:

and no word that rhymes with orange.

What about flange?

Scarab Sages

RiseFlynnsterRise wrote:

Well, it is pretty damned disturbing how people intentionally slaughter their own language for the sake of brevity.

BRB instead of Be right back for instance...

Did it really save you any time to not type that out? Is it that you don't know how to type and you are a henpecker on the keyboard?

And then, oh dear lord...the frakkin l33t speakers...christ...nothing gets my head spinning quicker than this.....on WoW...it's been things like ne1 instead of anyone ...makes me wonder how people can function in a corporate environ when they casually type like this...it's GOT to creep into work somehow...you know?

In MMORPGs, yes BRB does save a lot of time...as does BRT...

using it in normal instances on forums, or in chat, it can be very lazy...


RiseFlynnsterRise wrote:
Well, it is pretty damned disturbing how people intentionally slaughter their own language for the sake of brevity.

It always sends a clear message to me, that they feel their time is somehow much, much more valuable than mine. Instead of spending 3 extra seconds to use capital letters, punctuation, and actual words, they'll force the reader(s) to spend a half hour trying to translate their "e-speak" into coherent thoughts.

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lastknightleft wrote:
drunken_nomad wrote:

and no word that rhymes with orange.

What about flange?

I don't know how you pronounce flange, but it does not rhyme with orange.

There are also no words that rhyme with purple, silver, or month.


Ross Byers wrote:
There are also no words that rhyme with purple, silver, or month.

Alex Trebek: "The category is 'Colors that End in -urple.'"

Hilary Swank: "Uh... what is Light Urple?"

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RiseFlynnsterRise wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Good, because the last thing we need is that can of worms opened. ;p

Can of worms? I've played with people from the Lebanon...Israel...France...Ireland...England...Germany...Just because you don't agree with a countries policies does not mean that you wouldn't like someone because of their heritage or nationality....

Hell, if I was correct about Nerrat being an egyptian name, one of my more respected bosses was an awesome man from Cairo named Nasir. He absolutely rocked!

And, here's my heritage...in order of dillution...

Scottish/Irish/English/Sioux/Cherokee/Dutch

Egyptian? Cool. When I chose Tarren, I was going for an Osirion or Qadiran name. Nerrat is Tarren spelt backwards.

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Jimmy-Joe Hayseed wrote:
Ah ain't nevuh went ta kollij neither. Ah learnt evythang ah needed ta knowed from muh pappy an muh granpappy.

Some of the smartest people I know never went to college, Jimmy. And some of the dumbest people I know teach college.

;-D

Scarab Sages

drunken_nomad wrote:

and no word that rhymes with orange.

Syringe?

Scarab Sages

David Fryer wrote:
Actually I do fill in as the cook once in a while.

"Are you the Fat Friar?"

"No, I'm the Chip Monk".

Liberty's Edge

Just don't smack my bishop.


You'd have to change the vowel sound in flange to have a true rhyme with orange.


Orange and Flange do not rhyme...at least in a masculine sense...

Orange breaks into two syllables...OR and ANGE...Flange breaks into FLAN and GE (heavy G sound)...

hence, in at least the masculine form of rhyme, the two don't match...just as INGE doesn't rhyme with ANGE (for rhyming syringe and orange)....

Sovereign Court

Ross Byers wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
drunken_nomad wrote:

and no word that rhymes with orange.

What about flange?

I don't know how you pronounce flange, but it does not rhyme with orange.

There are also no words that rhyme with purple, silver, or month.

flange has the exact same pronunciation as the "ange" from orange. so how does it not rhyme?

EDIT: ninja'ed by Flynster

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lastknightleft wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
drunken_nomad wrote:

and no word that rhymes with orange.

What about flange?

I don't know how you pronounce flange, but it does not rhyme with orange.

There are also no words that rhyme with purple, silver, or month.

flange has the exact same pronunciation as the "ange" from orange. so how does it not rhyme?

Because the preceding 'r' rolls into the vowel sound in 'ange'. It doesn't rhyme.

Sovereign Court

RiseFlynnsterRise wrote:

Orange and Flange do not rhyme...at least in a masculine sense...

Orange breaks into two syllables...OR and ANGE...Flange breaks into FLAN and GE (heavy G sound)...

hence, in at least the masculine form of rhyme, the two don't match...just as INGE doesn't rhyme with ANGE (for rhyming syringe and orange)....

Hmm I've never heard anyone pronounce it with a heavy G sound ever, even in construction. I've always heard it pronounced as a single syllable word with the same sound as orange, see this is where common language will eventually take over the proper pronunciation. Sorta how ain't used to not be a word, but now is in the dictionary as a contraction of is not, and how now people pronounce Cache with an a at the end. either that or it's just a FL thing, southerners are known for pronouncing words funny.

Edit: Syringe actually rhymes with hinge (as in a door) you couldn't claim that hinge rhymes with orange.

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Ross Byers wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
drunken_nomad wrote:

and no word that rhymes with orange.

What about flange?

I don't know how you pronounce flange, but it does not rhyme with orange.

There are also no words that rhyme with purple, silver, or month.

flange has the exact same pronunciation as the "ange" from orange. so how does it not rhyme?

Because the preceding 'r' rolls into the vowel sound in 'ange'. It doesn't rhyme.

So rat and bat don't rhyme? not trying to be difficult but that doesn't seem right.

Scarab Sages

Most people I know pronounce orange as "ornge," not "or-ange."

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lastknightleft wrote:
So rat and bat don't rhyme? not trying to be difficult but that doesn't seem right.

I'm not an expert. I judt know that to me they sound different and that my mough doesn't move in the same way when saying them.

After some consulting with wikipedia, the best explanation I can come up with is that the stresses are different.

Liberty's Edge

Lastknightleft, a "true" rhyme is where both words are pronounced exactly the same, with different consonant sounds, so they aren't homonyms. A "near" rhyme is two words that almost rhyme, but not quite.

"Flange" and "orange" would be "near rhymes", I suppose.

However, both are properly pronounced with a "soft g". Just wanted to throw that in.

Now, the difference between a "hard g" and a "soft g":

here's a list of examples <----Flash and PDF files


lastknightleft wrote:

Hmm I've never heard anyone pronounce it with a heavy G sound ever, even in construction. I've always heard it pronounced as a single syllable word with the same sound as orange, see this is where common language will eventually take over the proper pronunciation. Sorta how ain't used to not be a word, but now is in the dictionary as a contraction of is not, and how now people pronounce Cache with an a at the end. either that or it's just a FL thing, southerners are known for pronouncing words funny.

Edit: Syringe actually rhymes with hinge (as in a door) you couldn't claim that hinge rhymes with orange.

Neither have I. Flange sounds like fl+Ann+j; Orange like ore+runj, not ore+ranj

Syringe and hinge sound like closer rhymes to orange than flange, to my ear.

Liberty's Edge

Ungoded wrote:
Most people I know pronounce orange as "ornge," not "or-ange."

How most people pronounce things is irrelevant to the topic of rhyming. Most people mispronounce "often" (hint: the "t" is supposed to be silent), doesn't make them right.

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houstonderek wrote:

Lastknightleft, a "true" rhyme is where both words are pronounced exactly the same, with different consonant sounds, so they aren't homonyms. A "near" rhyme is two words that almost rhyme, but not quite.

"Flange" and "orange" would be "near rhymes", I suppose.

However, both are properly pronounced with a "soft g". Just wanted to throw that in.

Now, the difference between a "hard g" and a "soft g":

here's a list of examples <----Flash and PDF files

So a true rhyme has the same # of syllables then, I'm really curious about this because I don't think anyones ever bothered to explain the difference (very few people think of the word flange in every day life when asked to rhyme orange I think) and my hearing impairment may have some responsibility but when hearing the two words spoken I hear a rhyme if I could make a nonsensical poem here

the boy was painted orange
and then attached to the flange

In my ear they rhyme (and to the one poster I've always heard "ange" when people say orange, not "nge")

Scarab Sages

Ye Gods; what have I started?

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lastknightleft wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

Lastknightleft, a "true" rhyme is where both words are pronounced exactly the same, with different consonant sounds, so they aren't homonyms. A "near" rhyme is two words that almost rhyme, but not quite.

"Flange" and "orange" would be "near rhymes", I suppose.

However, both are properly pronounced with a "soft g". Just wanted to throw that in.

Now, the difference between a "hard g" and a "soft g":

here's a list of examples <----Flash and PDF files

So a true rhyme has the same # of syllables then, I'm really curious about this because I don't think anyones ever bothered to explain the difference (very few people think of the word flange in every day life when asked to rhyme orange I think) and my hearing impairment may have some responsibility but when hearing the two words spoken I hear a rhyme if I could make a nonsensical poem here

the boy was painted orange
and then attached to the flange

In my ear they rhyme (and to the one poster I've always heard "ange" when people say orange, not "nge")

Could be dialectical differences. I pronounce it ornge not or-ange.

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:

Hmm I've never heard anyone pronounce it with a heavy G sound ever, even in construction. I've always heard it pronounced as a single syllable word with the same sound as orange, see this is where common language will eventually take over the proper pronunciation. Sorta how ain't used to not be a word, but now is in the dictionary as a contraction of is not, and how now people pronounce Cache with an a at the end. either that or it's just a FL thing, southerners are known for pronouncing words funny.

Edit: Syringe actually rhymes with hinge (as in a door) you couldn't claim that hinge rhymes with orange.

Neither have I. Flange sounds like fl+Ann+j; Orange like ore+runj, not ore+ranj

Syringe and hinge sound like closer rhymes to orange than flange, to my ear.

hmm I've always heard or+anj but I am deaf in one ear which has before affected my hearing of proununciation.


houstonderek wrote:
Ungoded wrote:
Most people I know pronounce orange as "ornge," not "or-ange."
How most people pronounce things is irrelevant to the topic of rhyming. Most people mispronounce "often" (hint: the "t" is supposed to be silent), doesn't make them right.

Dear God, is it too late to head off the normative vs usage debate?

Oh no, Dr Tarren's already here!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What about the people that pronounce it as ARNGE?

Scarab Sages

According to Dictionary.com:

orange is pronounced: awr-inj

flange is pronounced: flanj

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lastknightleft wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:

Hmm I've never heard anyone pronounce it with a heavy G sound ever, even in construction. I've always heard it pronounced as a single syllable word with the same sound as orange, see this is where common language will eventually take over the proper pronunciation. Sorta how ain't used to not be a word, but now is in the dictionary as a contraction of is not, and how now people pronounce Cache with an a at the end. either that or it's just a FL thing, southerners are known for pronouncing words funny.

Edit: Syringe actually rhymes with hinge (as in a door) you couldn't claim that hinge rhymes with orange.

Neither have I. Flange sounds like fl+Ann+j; Orange like ore+runj, not ore+ranj

Syringe and hinge sound like closer rhymes to orange than flange, to my ear.
hmm I've always heard or+anj but I am deaf in one ear which has before affected my hearing of proununciation.

Merriam-Webster has both.

Wikitionary has Blorenge as a rhyme.
And Mairkurion has a salad for a face.


People who say ore-ANN-j have something wrong with them. I hate it when M-W enables. Bastards.

Throws copy of Johnson at TD.

Liberty's Edge

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Ungoded wrote:
Most people I know pronounce orange as "ornge," not "or-ange."
How most people pronounce things is irrelevant to the topic of rhyming. Most people mispronounce "often" (hint: the "t" is supposed to be silent), doesn't make them right.

Dear God, is it too late to head off the normative vs usage debate?

Oh no, Dr Tarren's already here!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It just reminds me of an article I read once. A young lady was upset that people were making fun of her for pronouncing the "t" at the end of "cabernet", and the columnist pointed out that she should have, perhaps, just started pronouncing it correctly (after discovering she was saying it wrong) rather than arguing all the time, if she didn't want to come off as ignorant.

Liberty's Edge

Bakel wrote:
What about the people that pronounce it as ARNGE?

They are to be sterilized at puberty...


Are there any words that rhyme with "syrup"?


Shuddup.

Spoiler:
And welcome to Paizo!


houstonderek wrote:
Bakel wrote:
What about the people that pronounce it as ARNGE?
They are to be sterilized at puberty...

I know plent of people here in AR that pronounce it as "arnge".

So that makes what you said that much funnier!


Speaking of things that are orange, here's one that causes a great number of dumbfounded double-takes:

The word "sherbet" has only one "r" in it, both in spelling and in pronounciation. It doesn't actually contain the name of Bert's roommate.

Liberty's Edge

Tarren Dei wrote:
Could be dialectical differences. I pronounce it ornge not or-ange.

I take dialectical differences into account (I have to, I live in Texas), but certain words still give me the "nails on a chalkboard" effect when they're mispronounced.

Scarab Sages

Stuffy Grammarian wrote:

Speaking of things that are orange, here's one that causes a great number of dumbfounded double-takes:

The word "sherbet" has only one "r" in it, both in spelling and in pronounciation. It doesn't actually contain the name of Bert's roommate.

Ernie?

Liberty's Edge

Stuffy Grammarian wrote:

Speaking of things that are orange, here's one that causes a great number of dumbfounded double-takes:

The word "sherbet" has only one "r" in it, both in spelling and in pronounciation. It doesn't actually contain the name of Bert's roommate.

Yeah, that's why I just say "sorbet"...

"Sherbet" is a Middle Eastern word (the dessert originates from there), "sorbet" is the French rendering, just in case anyone was curious...

Scarab Sages

houstonderek wrote:
Tarren Dei wrote:
Could be dialectical differences. I pronounce it ornge not or-ange.
I take dialectical differences into account (I have to, I live in Texas), but certain words still give me the "nails on a chalkboard" effect when they're mispronounced.

Out of curiosity, how do you pronounce orange?

Liberty's Edge

Ungoded wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Tarren Dei wrote:
Could be dialectical differences. I pronounce it ornge not or-ange.
I take dialectical differences into account (I have to, I live in Texas), but certain words still give me the "nails on a chalkboard" effect when they're mispronounced.
Out of curiosity, how do you pronounce orange?

OR-ange. Two syllables.

Scarab Sages

houstonderek wrote:
OR-ange. Two syllables.

Usually, when I hear it pronounced with two syllables, the second syllable sounds more like -inge or -unge than -ange. We do, however, live in two very different parts of the country (MI vs. TX).

Scarab Sages

Bakel wrote:
Are there any words that rhyme with "syrup"?

She covered his stirrup,

With lashings of syrup.
The syrup was orange,
Squeezed from a syringe.


Snorter wrote:
Bakel wrote:
Are there any words that rhyme with "syrup"?

She covered his stirrup,

With lashings of syrup.
The syrup was orange,
Squeezed from a syringe.

Pancakes and syrup,

Pancakes and hyrup!


Ungoded wrote:
Ernie?

Heh. Wondered if anyone was going to catch that.

Liberty's Edge

Ungoded wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
OR-ange. Two syllables.
Usually, when I hear it pronounced with two syllables, the second syllable sounds more like -inge or -unge than -ange. We do, however, live in two very different parts of the country (MI vs. TX).

I grew up in Upstate New York, but I've lived in Texas for 22 years now, so my accent has morphed a bit.


houstonderek wrote:
I grew up in Upstate New York, but I've lived in Texas for 22 years now, so my accent has morphed a bit.

I grew up in Eagle River, Alaska...and someone freaked me out once commenting on my "Alaskan Accent"...there IS no such thing...but they had no clue that I'd lived there before!!!!


Kirth Gersen wrote:
Ungoded wrote:
Ernie?
Heh. Wondered if anyone was going to catch that.

I caught it but before i could reply something smart i had to actually do something here at work. Then I felt the moment had passed...

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