Xaaon of Xen'Drik
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Well, it is pretty damned disturbing how people intentionally slaughter their own language for the sake of brevity.
BRB instead of Be right back for instance...
Did it really save you any time to not type that out? Is it that you don't know how to type and you are a henpecker on the keyboard?
And then, oh dear lord...the frakkin l33t speakers...christ...nothing gets my head spinning quicker than this.....on WoW...it's been things like ne1 instead of anyone ...makes me wonder how people can function in a corporate environ when they casually type like this...it's GOT to creep into work somehow...you know?
In MMORPGs, yes BRB does save a lot of time...as does BRT...
using it in normal instances on forums, or in chat, it can be very lazy...
| Kirth Gersen |
Well, it is pretty damned disturbing how people intentionally slaughter their own language for the sake of brevity.
It always sends a clear message to me, that they feel their time is somehow much, much more valuable than mine. Instead of spending 3 extra seconds to use capital letters, punctuation, and actual words, they'll force the reader(s) to spend a half hour trying to translate their "e-speak" into coherent thoughts.
Tarren Dei
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8
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David Fryer wrote:Good, because the last thing we need is that can of worms opened. ;pCan of worms? I've played with people from the Lebanon...Israel...France...Ireland...England...Germany...Just because you don't agree with a countries policies does not mean that you wouldn't like someone because of their heritage or nationality....
Hell, if I was correct about Nerrat being an egyptian name, one of my more respected bosses was an awesome man from Cairo named Nasir. He absolutely rocked!
And, here's my heritage...in order of dillution...
Scottish/Irish/English/Sioux/Cherokee/Dutch
Egyptian? Cool. When I chose Tarren, I was going for an Osirion or Qadiran name. Nerrat is Tarren spelt backwards.
| RiseFlynnsterRise |
Orange and Flange do not rhyme...at least in a masculine sense...
Orange breaks into two syllables...OR and ANGE...Flange breaks into FLAN and GE (heavy G sound)...
hence, in at least the masculine form of rhyme, the two don't match...just as INGE doesn't rhyme with ANGE (for rhyming syringe and orange)....
lastknightleft
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lastknightleft wrote:drunken_nomad wrote:What about flange?and no word that rhymes with orange.
I don't know how you pronounce flange, but it does not rhyme with orange.
There are also no words that rhyme with purple, silver, or month.
flange has the exact same pronunciation as the "ange" from orange. so how does it not rhyme?
EDIT: ninja'ed by Flynster
| Ross Byers RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 |
Ross Byers wrote:lastknightleft wrote:drunken_nomad wrote:What about flange?and no word that rhymes with orange.
I don't know how you pronounce flange, but it does not rhyme with orange.
There are also no words that rhyme with purple, silver, or month.
flange has the exact same pronunciation as the "ange" from orange. so how does it not rhyme?
Because the preceding 'r' rolls into the vowel sound in 'ange'. It doesn't rhyme.
lastknightleft
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Orange and Flange do not rhyme...at least in a masculine sense...
Orange breaks into two syllables...OR and ANGE...Flange breaks into FLAN and GE (heavy G sound)...
hence, in at least the masculine form of rhyme, the two don't match...just as INGE doesn't rhyme with ANGE (for rhyming syringe and orange)....
Hmm I've never heard anyone pronounce it with a heavy G sound ever, even in construction. I've always heard it pronounced as a single syllable word with the same sound as orange, see this is where common language will eventually take over the proper pronunciation. Sorta how ain't used to not be a word, but now is in the dictionary as a contraction of is not, and how now people pronounce Cache with an a at the end. either that or it's just a FL thing, southerners are known for pronouncing words funny.
Edit: Syringe actually rhymes with hinge (as in a door) you couldn't claim that hinge rhymes with orange.
lastknightleft
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lastknightleft wrote:Because the preceding 'r' rolls into the vowel sound in 'ange'. It doesn't rhyme.Ross Byers wrote:lastknightleft wrote:drunken_nomad wrote:What about flange?and no word that rhymes with orange.
I don't know how you pronounce flange, but it does not rhyme with orange.
There are also no words that rhyme with purple, silver, or month.
flange has the exact same pronunciation as the "ange" from orange. so how does it not rhyme?
So rat and bat don't rhyme? not trying to be difficult but that doesn't seem right.
| Ross Byers RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 |
So rat and bat don't rhyme? not trying to be difficult but that doesn't seem right.
I'm not an expert. I judt know that to me they sound different and that my mough doesn't move in the same way when saying them.
After some consulting with wikipedia, the best explanation I can come up with is that the stresses are different.
houstonderek
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Lastknightleft, a "true" rhyme is where both words are pronounced exactly the same, with different consonant sounds, so they aren't homonyms. A "near" rhyme is two words that almost rhyme, but not quite.
"Flange" and "orange" would be "near rhymes", I suppose.
However, both are properly pronounced with a "soft g". Just wanted to throw that in.
Now, the difference between a "hard g" and a "soft g":
here's a list of examples <----Flash and PDF files
| Mairkurion {tm} |
Hmm I've never heard anyone pronounce it with a heavy G sound ever, even in construction. I've always heard it pronounced as a single syllable word with the same sound as orange, see this is where common language will eventually take over the proper pronunciation. Sorta how ain't used to not be a word, but now is in the dictionary as a contraction of is not, and how now people pronounce Cache with an a at the end. either that or it's just a FL thing, southerners are known for pronouncing words funny.
Edit: Syringe actually rhymes with hinge (as in a door) you couldn't claim that hinge rhymes with orange.
Neither have I. Flange sounds like fl+Ann+j; Orange like ore+runj, not ore+ranj
Syringe and hinge sound like closer rhymes to orange than flange, to my ear.
lastknightleft
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Lastknightleft, a "true" rhyme is where both words are pronounced exactly the same, with different consonant sounds, so they aren't homonyms. A "near" rhyme is two words that almost rhyme, but not quite.
"Flange" and "orange" would be "near rhymes", I suppose.
However, both are properly pronounced with a "soft g". Just wanted to throw that in.
Now, the difference between a "hard g" and a "soft g":
here's a list of examples <----Flash and PDF files
So a true rhyme has the same # of syllables then, I'm really curious about this because I don't think anyones ever bothered to explain the difference (very few people think of the word flange in every day life when asked to rhyme orange I think) and my hearing impairment may have some responsibility but when hearing the two words spoken I hear a rhyme if I could make a nonsensical poem here
the boy was painted orange
and then attached to the flange
In my ear they rhyme (and to the one poster I've always heard "ange" when people say orange, not "nge")
Tarren Dei
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8
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houstonderek wrote:Lastknightleft, a "true" rhyme is where both words are pronounced exactly the same, with different consonant sounds, so they aren't homonyms. A "near" rhyme is two words that almost rhyme, but not quite.
"Flange" and "orange" would be "near rhymes", I suppose.
However, both are properly pronounced with a "soft g". Just wanted to throw that in.
Now, the difference between a "hard g" and a "soft g":
here's a list of examples <----Flash and PDF files
So a true rhyme has the same # of syllables then, I'm really curious about this because I don't think anyones ever bothered to explain the difference (very few people think of the word flange in every day life when asked to rhyme orange I think) and my hearing impairment may have some responsibility but when hearing the two words spoken I hear a rhyme if I could make a nonsensical poem here
the boy was painted orange
and then attached to the flangeIn my ear they rhyme (and to the one poster I've always heard "ange" when people say orange, not "nge")
Could be dialectical differences. I pronounce it ornge not or-ange.
lastknightleft
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lastknightleft wrote:Hmm I've never heard anyone pronounce it with a heavy G sound ever, even in construction. I've always heard it pronounced as a single syllable word with the same sound as orange, see this is where common language will eventually take over the proper pronunciation. Sorta how ain't used to not be a word, but now is in the dictionary as a contraction of is not, and how now people pronounce Cache with an a at the end. either that or it's just a FL thing, southerners are known for pronouncing words funny.
Edit: Syringe actually rhymes with hinge (as in a door) you couldn't claim that hinge rhymes with orange.
Neither have I. Flange sounds like fl+Ann+j; Orange like ore+runj, not ore+ranj
Syringe and hinge sound like closer rhymes to orange than flange, to my ear.
hmm I've always heard or+anj but I am deaf in one ear which has before affected my hearing of proununciation.
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Ungoded wrote:Most people I know pronounce orange as "ornge," not "or-ange."How most people pronounce things is irrelevant to the topic of rhyming. Most people mispronounce "often" (hint: the "t" is supposed to be silent), doesn't make them right.
Dear God, is it too late to head off the normative vs usage debate?
Oh no, Dr Tarren's already here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tarren Dei
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8
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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:hmm I've always heard or+anj but I am deaf in one ear which has before affected my hearing of proununciation.lastknightleft wrote:Hmm I've never heard anyone pronounce it with a heavy G sound ever, even in construction. I've always heard it pronounced as a single syllable word with the same sound as orange, see this is where common language will eventually take over the proper pronunciation. Sorta how ain't used to not be a word, but now is in the dictionary as a contraction of is not, and how now people pronounce Cache with an a at the end. either that or it's just a FL thing, southerners are known for pronouncing words funny.
Edit: Syringe actually rhymes with hinge (as in a door) you couldn't claim that hinge rhymes with orange.
Neither have I. Flange sounds like fl+Ann+j; Orange like ore+runj, not ore+ranj
Syringe and hinge sound like closer rhymes to orange than flange, to my ear.
Merriam-Webster has both.
Wikitionary has Blorenge as a rhyme.And Mairkurion has a salad for a face.
houstonderek
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houstonderek wrote:Ungoded wrote:Most people I know pronounce orange as "ornge," not "or-ange."How most people pronounce things is irrelevant to the topic of rhyming. Most people mispronounce "often" (hint: the "t" is supposed to be silent), doesn't make them right.Dear God, is it too late to head off the normative vs usage debate?
Oh no, Dr Tarren's already here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It just reminds me of an article I read once. A young lady was upset that people were making fun of her for pronouncing the "t" at the end of "cabernet", and the columnist pointed out that she should have, perhaps, just started pronouncing it correctly (after discovering she was saying it wrong) rather than arguing all the time, if she didn't want to come off as ignorant.
houstonderek
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Speaking of things that are orange, here's one that causes a great number of dumbfounded double-takes:
The word "sherbet" has only one "r" in it, both in spelling and in pronounciation. It doesn't actually contain the name of Bert's roommate.
Yeah, that's why I just say "sorbet"...
"Sherbet" is a Middle Eastern word (the dessert originates from there), "sorbet" is the French rendering, just in case anyone was curious...
Ungoded
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Tarren Dei wrote:Could be dialectical differences. I pronounce it ornge not or-ange.I take dialectical differences into account (I have to, I live in Texas), but certain words still give me the "nails on a chalkboard" effect when they're mispronounced.
Out of curiosity, how do you pronounce orange?
houstonderek
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houstonderek wrote:Out of curiosity, how do you pronounce orange?Tarren Dei wrote:Could be dialectical differences. I pronounce it ornge not or-ange.I take dialectical differences into account (I have to, I live in Texas), but certain words still give me the "nails on a chalkboard" effect when they're mispronounced.
OR-ange. Two syllables.
houstonderek
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houstonderek wrote:OR-ange. Two syllables.Usually, when I hear it pronounced with two syllables, the second syllable sounds more like -inge or -unge than -ange. We do, however, live in two very different parts of the country (MI vs. TX).
I grew up in Upstate New York, but I've lived in Texas for 22 years now, so my accent has morphed a bit.
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I grew up in Upstate New York, but I've lived in Texas for 22 years now, so my accent has morphed a bit.
I grew up in Eagle River, Alaska...and someone freaked me out once commenting on my "Alaskan Accent"...there IS no such thing...but they had no clue that I'd lived there before!!!!