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This came up in the game last night. We could have used a bag of holding, the mage who's bonded item is a ring said something like, "hmmm I can turn my ring into a container of holding"
No this seems really broken. Isn't the intent that an item is enchanted into a similar style item (rings for rings, rods for rods, etc)? I mean we had a good laugh at trying to shove a sword into his ring, but seriously.
conundrum:
A ring must be worn to be effective.
Wearing a ring of holding makes your finger disappear, and plugs up the hole.
Also: rings are too small to fit swords through the hole.
I would say: if he really, really wants to waste his precious gold on doing it, let him.. but using the ring for that while he's wearing it is going to prove more trouble than its likely worth.
Ok, a serious answer :)
While I would agree that you can generally enchant any item for any purpose, there are some things about Some items that have to remain constant. For example: A bag of holding is a container enchanted to hold *more* stuff. A ring is merely a ring. You could enchant a backpack or quiver, or even a barrel or the hold of a ship, or the pocket of a cloak.. But a ring? Some things just don't fit.
Now: If you want to work with him on it (aka think he should be able to do it) then an idea or two:
Bags of Holding are based off the Secret Chest spell. (as in- leomund's secret chest)
if you like the -idea- of him using his ring in and outside-the-box manner but don't like the physical problem with trying to stuff items into a ring, you could just write it up such that the ring "summons the chest". Apply the usual Bag of Holding restrictions as to weight, volume, and such, and just has a slightly different "effect".
Of course- this would also make retrieving items slightly longer, but would also make them more secure.
Alternatively, and more expensively, you could go the "portable hole" trick with it.
A portable hole is in effect just a portable 6ft wide magical hole of storage.
Wearing the ring and saying (or thinking) the command thought could simply make a 6ft round hole appear as desired. It otherwise would follow the rules for the portable hole. (air, volume, weight, whatever).
Just thoughts.
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I would suspect that we'll be limited to the normal item enchantments for that type of item.
But in that specific 'ring as storage device' concept, I'd require the ring to be taken off and placed on a flat surface, where it would expand into a circular opening to the storage area. 'Cause that would look neat.
If somebody wanted to make a 'sword-ring,' I'd even allow them to put enhancements like +1 or Flaming weapon on their ring, but they'd have to actually hit someone with their hand for these effects to take place, which means the ring would be hot stuff for a Monk, Sorcerer with claws, etc. but they can't use it. A single-classed wizard without Improved Unarmed Strike or some racial feature that gives him claws isn't going to find it as useful.
As a side note:
There are some items that just can't be effectively combined.
While it may be all good and well to have a Rod of Lordly Might that acts also as a Ring of Major Fire resistance- the requirements and properties of the RoLM would prevent you from having a Ring of Fire Resistance that also acted as the RoLM. (at least, to me).
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I have always hated how "cookie cutter" magic items are becoming. Things like all rings do X and all staves function this way and all wands do this effect from level 1-4.
This thread is for you then. :)
I agree. Item creation is really just broken down into spell-completion, single-use, charged, etc. Brew Potion is just 'create one shot item that anyone can use' while Scribe Scroll is 'one shot item that you can only use if it's on your spell list.'
Item creation feats are hardly a sacred cow, considering all item enchantment used to come from the 6th level Enchant an Item spell, and I'd be quite willing to see them changed around to represent the categories of item (not just the outward shapes or what part of the body they are worn on), or, even more sacred-hamburger-ifficly, replaced with a single feat or class feature.
The appearance of feats in later books that allowed a craftsman to make items 'by other names' was a step in the completely wrong direction, IMO. Gem Magic or Candle Casting or whatever. The ability to make a 'potion' that isn't necessarily a flask of liquid, but some other consumable or expendable item, should be the default, not something someone has to waste a feat on.
Well Magic Item compendium has a ring that works like a glove of storing (double plus good, you can activate rods and wands stored in it). That's the closest I've seen to this idea.
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Well Magic Item compendium has a ring that works like a glove of storing (double plus good, you can activate rods and wands stored in it). That's the closest I've seen to this idea.
A ring of storing can work, but it's turning in into a bag of holding or making it a +5 ring of impact (nothing says it can't be a weapon either, I mean the phantom uses one). Just thought I'd point out a flaw that didn't seem to be noticed.