Who or What is the Whispering Tyrant?


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion


Title says it all. I've seen him/it mentioned a lot in various books, but I haven't found a real description anywhere. Am I being blind, is it in a book that I don't have yet, or isn't there a full write-up yet?

Thanks!

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

No full write-up yet, but he's covered in numerous places in the Gazetteer and Campaign Setting. His real name is Tar-Baphon, and he is a powerful lich who wreaked lots of havoc on central Avistan back in the day. Numerous crusades against him eventually defeated him and his armies and locked him away within Gallowspire in southern Ustalav.

Liberty's Edge

According to James (I think) that's him on the cover of the campaign setting about to knock Valeros and Seoni off his tower. Wonder if Merisiel is actually climbing up or actually realizing it's better to stay below....

Edit: added Merisiel's name after seeing a thread by Vic about her miniture.

Scarab Sages

Tessius wrote:
According to James (I think) that's him on the cover of the campaign setting about to knock Valeros and Seoni off his tower. Wonder if the rogue (at work and the name eludes me atm) is actually climbing up or actually realizing it's better to stay below....

Awesome cover, by the way. I think it is my favorite of some of the recent ones (and there were some good ones). Only thing that gets me is Valeros' pug-nose.

Sovereign Court Contributor

There's also THIS source, although it was written before Golarion was really created.

Liberty's Edge

Craig Shackleton wrote:
There's also THIS source, although it was written before Golarion was really created.

I also thought of that Craig, but I didn't mention it cause I thought the compleat encounter was renamed after it was first released to tie it in to Pathfinder. Similar to how they've renamed all the Ptolus mini's to fit into Golarion :)

Sovereign Court Contributor

Tessius wrote:
Craig Shackleton wrote:
There's also THIS source, although it was written before Golarion was really created.
I also thought of that Craig, but I didn't mention it cause I thought the compleat encounter was renamed after it was first released to tie it in to Pathfinder. Similar to how they've renamed all the Ptolus mini's to fit into Golarion :)

Nope, this was always the Vault of the Whispering Tyrant. I'm pretty sure he's even called Tar-Baphon in the encounter. I've had the encounter since before Pathfinder #1 came out.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Craig Shackleton wrote:
There's also THIS source, although it was written before Golarion was really created.

Funny you should bring that up.. it was delivered me to today as part of my order for Runelord dice. :)

The Whispering Tyrant is Golarion's big bad evil litch guy. :)

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Tessius wrote:
Craig Shackleton wrote:
There's also THIS source, although it was written before Golarion was really created.
I also thought of that Craig, but I didn't mention it cause I thought the compleat encounter was renamed after it was first released to tie it in to Pathfinder. Similar to how they've renamed all the Ptolus mini's to fit into Golarion :)

We didn't rename any Compleat Encounters, though we did appropriate some of the minis from them for our Pathfinder Chronicles Miniatures line, including the lich-king himself.


Thanks, guys. That helps clear some things up for me.

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

The lich-king from "Vault of the Whispering Tyrant" and the "Whispering Tyrant" from Golarion have always been the same person. It's possible that the stats and exact background from the Compleat Encounter are not 100% accurate, but the "look" of the miniature and the general concept are exactly the same.


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Is/was Tar-Baphon a dwarf?

The only other name I've seen with "Tar" in front if it is Tar Targraath (going from memory, so my spelling may be way off), the general who united the dwarves during their Quest for the Sky.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Cintra Bristol wrote:

Is/was Tar-Baphon a dwarf?

The only other name I've seen with "Tar" in front if it is Tar Targraath (going from memory, so my spelling may be way off), the general who united the dwarves during their Quest for the Sky.

That's a coincidence. "Tar" is indeed a dwarven word for something approximating "City" or "Fortress." It's also part of the Whispering Tyrant's name. It's a coincidence that's a little bit unfortunate in one way, since it causes confusion like this (we would have probably done better to come up with a different prefix for dwarven cities), but at the same time re-using sounds like this now and then CAN lend a bit of verisimilitude to the world as well.

But yeah. Tar-Baphon's a human lich, not a dwarf lich.


I'm a Human, Lich!


Is he feathered as well?

Dark Archive

Dang, that set of horns he has on the Setting cover made me think he might be a tiefling.

What's his sctick? many of his servants seem to be incorporeal undead, which fits his "whispering" moniker, and he's a major devotee of the Whispering Way (Ie: he wants to kill the world. creepy, but logical. An undead world is eternal and stable, and emminently controllable by a epic necromancer)

Contributor

His schtick is that he's a badass. If you read the timeline in the PFCS, you'll see that he killed Arazni, a demigoddess herald of Aroden. And then he hurled her body into Arazni's army to further demoralize them. Not a nice guy.


Sean K Reynolds wrote:
His schtick is that he's a badass. If you read the timeline in the PFCS, you'll see that he killed Arazni, a demigoddess herald of Aroden. And then he hurled her body into Arazni's army to further demoralize them. Not a nice guy.

I am just misunderstood. Is it so bad to want to rule the multiverse?

Liberty's Edge

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
His schtick is that he's a badass. If you read the timeline in the PFCS, you'll see that he killed Arazni, a demigoddess herald of Aroden. And then he hurled her body into Arazni's army to further demoralize them. Not a nice guy.

Didn't know that he threw her corpse back to them. I was wondering how the knights had it in their possession for Geb to steal. At least Aroden's next herald had better luck :)


Tar-Baphon wrote:
Sean K Reynolds wrote:
His schtick is that he's a badass. If you read the timeline in the PFCS, you'll see that he killed Arazni, a demigoddess herald of Aroden. And then he hurled her body into Arazni's army to further demoralize them. Not a nice guy.
I am just misunderstood. Is it so bad to want to rule the multiverse?

People kinda take offense if you want to turn it into a lifeless wasteland before ruling it.

Sovereign Court

And who beat him? A Taldan, pure and true and with a stiff upper lip.

Take that, you silly other factions. ;)

Grand Lodge

KaeYoss wrote:
Tar-Baphon wrote:
Sean K Reynolds wrote:
His schtick is that he's a badass. If you read the timeline in the PFCS, you'll see that he killed Arazni, a demigoddess herald of Aroden. And then he hurled her body into Arazni's army to further demoralize them. Not a nice guy.
I am just misunderstood. Is it so bad to want to rule the multiverse?
People kinda take offense if you want to turn it into a lifeless wasteland before ruling it.

Your wasteland is my utopia. Different alignments different opinions. You know that whole freedom of speech thing... and freedom to destroy all life thing...

Dark Archive

Tar-Baphon wrote:


I am just misunderstood. Is it so bad to want to rule the multiverse?

Nothing wrong with that at all. I mean that front cover just puts you in a poor light. All you wanted to do was give those adventurers a big friendly hug for climbing that tower but they draw it as if you were trying to push you off.


Uzzy wrote:

And who beat him? A Taldan, pure and true and with a stiff upper lip.

Would that past deads had any bearing on your current standing.

Krome wrote:


Your wasteland is my utopia. Different alignments different opinions. You know that whole freedom of speech thing... and freedom to destroy all life thing...

Not to mention unlife

Grand Lodge

Where does this "Whispering Tyrant" lair?


Digitalelf wrote:
Where does this "Whispering Tyrant" lair?

In his parents' basement. And he never turns down the music, he's that evil. (What makes it worse is that he listens to that one annoying song over and over again).


Digitalelf wrote:
Where does this "Whispering Tyrant" lair?

I think that I've heard about him in relation to Darkmoon Vale and theh lower caverns of Droskar's Crucible, but I'm not sure.

Scarab Sages

Digitalelf wrote:
Where does this "Whispering Tyrant" lair?

He is bound in the lower levels of his fortress at Gallowspire, in Ustalav.


Now that we know who (or what) the Whispering Tyrant is, I have another question:

Who, or why, or which, or what, Is the Akond of SWAT?

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