Dwarf Greed ability

[Volaran]

Greed: Dwarves treat Appraise as a class skill when
attempting to determine the price of nonmagical goods
that contain precious metals and gemstones.

I'm trying to figure out exactly what this means. Near as I can tell, this means that if you _don't_ have Appraise as a class skill, but you _do_ have ranks in it, you get the normal +3 class skill bonus, but only in this specific case.

Is that correct? If so, doesn't that seem a bit...complicated...for a racial ability? My players forget to add every relevant bonus enough as it is. Perhaps just a flat racial bonus?

[Jal Dorak]

This has come up before, and your conclusion has been the consensus. The ability convuletedly grants a +3 bonus to the skill, but does not apply if you already have Appraise as a class skill. Because of the PRPG skill system (no cross-class costs), this essentially means all Dwarves have Appraise as a class skill on these particular materials.

[Volaran]

Ah, thank you for the responce. I did a search before posting, but did not find any threads that brought it up.

I still don't like the phrasing, but at least it has already been brought to the designers' attention.

[Short Bearded One]

I've been looking at this and I just don't like how it fits in...

Half Elves get a bonus feat in the form of skill focus. I think a similar thing would be much more effective for the greed ability but restricting it to just appraise. That way all Dwarves get the +3 bonus thanks to Skill focus and it isn't ignored in Dwarven characters.