No love for the Hide Shirt?!!?


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Not in the Pathfinder Campaign Setting and now omitted from the Beta! What's up Paizo?! Why no love for the hide shirt?

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It's 'hide'-ing.


In Pathfinder 10, they talk about hide armour made from Cinder Wolf pelts. Maybe its been unusually wet in the Cinderlands recently and the population is down. (Also it itches.)

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Fake Healer wrote:
Not in the Pathfinder Campaign Setting and now omitted from the Beta! What's up Paizo?! Why no love for the hide shirt?

i ate it :)


I love the Hide Shirt, for the record.

Scarab Sages

I would rather have Brigandine armor than Hide armor. Of course, druids need something equivalent to Hide. Lamallar perhaps?

One of the biggest weaknesses in 3rd Edition is the lack of armor options - many real-world armor that was very popular during history is omitted from the book. For example, brigandine was just as useful as field plate at the same point in history.

I wants me more armor!


Jal Dorak wrote:

I would rather have Brigandine armor than Hide armor. Of course, druids need something equivalent to Hide. Lamallar perhaps?

One of the biggest weaknesses in 3rd Edition is the lack of armor options - many real-world armor that was very popular during history is omitted from the book. For example, brigandine was just as useful as field plate at the same point in history.

I wants me more armor!

This I can agree with and expound upon. I am going to take a flying leap here and wholeheartedly suggest that every piece of equipment from the pathfinder campaign setting book be included in the release version. I would also love to see this list expanded as well as included in it's entirety.


Jal Dorak wrote:

I would rather have Brigandine armor than Hide armor. Of course, druids need something equivalent to Hide. Lamallar perhaps?

One of the biggest weaknesses in 3rd Edition is the lack of armor options - many real-world armor that was very popular during history is omitted from the book. For example, brigandine was just as useful as field plate at the same point in history.

Depends: In D&D, any straight blade with a length of about 60 to 90 cm length is a longsword, any sword that is too large to wield in one hand is a greatsword, and all wooden sticks are a club. That does not mean that they are all the same type of weapon, but within the limited parameters of weapons in D&D, they all work the same.

And I think same goes for armor. A medium AC +4 armor is in the list as scale mail, but in my games many of these are brigandines. Lamellar uses the same stats as breastplate, and padded armor can also be any kind of thick leather pants and jackets for scouts and hunters. Samurai armor would probably be a version of banded armor.
When the difference would be neglectible, like 5 punds here or a +1 to max dex there, I actually prefer less possible versions of armor stats, makes keeping track much easier.


Neithan wrote:
Depends: In D&D, ... all wooden sticks are a club. ...

if they are no quarterstaffs.

Scarab Sages

I'd really love to see some kind of Equipment Guide for the Pathfinder RPG - not in the "more strange devices" sense like WotC did it, more like the german "Aventurisches Arsenal" with descriptions and illustrations of common equipment and a bit of it's history in the setting, perhaps some combat feats usable for specialists with certain weapons.


The second Edition Arms and Equipment Guide was much like that. They even had a full page on padded armor. :D

Liberty's Edge

Fake Healer wrote:
Not in the Pathfinder Campaign Setting and now omitted from the Beta! What's up Paizo?! Why no love for the hide shirt?

I agree.

I have been using the hide shirt for the various barbarians in my 3.5 game. It really is so much more appropriate than putting them all in mithral breastplates or chain shirts.


Franz Lunzer wrote:
Neithan wrote:
Depends: In D&D, ... all wooden sticks are a club. ...
if they are no quarterstaffs.

Quarterstaves are just double-weapon clubs anyway.

(btw ... does this mean we now have to start a "Quarterstaves Get No Love" thread?)

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Ixancoatl wrote:

Quarterstaves are just double-weapon clubs anyway.

(btw ... does this mean we now have to start a "Quarterstaves Get No Love" thread?)

You cannot trip with a quarterstaff.

That is outright hating on them!
;)

Liberty's Edge Contributor

If this is a general armor commentary thread, then I'd also love to point out a general desire for more armor "accessories". Armor Spikes and Locking Gauntlets were both fun additions to the game, and I'd love to see more non-magical customization along the lines of Pathfinder's "Armored Kilt", Ptolus' "Leather Coat", and Iron Kingdom's "Mechanic's Apron". Items that give small boosts to AC, improve mobility, or allow for some new schtick.

You wouldn't know it to look at my wand collection, but I'm actually a big fan of adventuring gear over magical gear, and some days it feels like it doesn't get enough love next to those shiny new magical enhancements.

That said, Hide Shirts are great if you're into that sort of thing. And I was sad to see much of my favorite Pathfinder equipment missing from the campaign setting and RPG beta.

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