2 PFs
1 x P Com
2 x P Chron
Looks like I'm in for 23 bucks S&H to China.
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More Pathfinder stuff is always better! Looking forward to getting this package.
:)
Are all you people who have he prices going from the pre-dispach email, or from adding up what it should be?
I ask since I have the email, but it doesn't mention he campaign setting, which is on pre-order...
you are not seeing the Campaign setting because you are not a Chronicles Subscriber. Your pre-order of the Campaign setting will ship separately.
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Yah, it's going to leave a mark. Glad I finally got my HSA up and running, being able to shuttle my medical costs over helps.
That said, I knew it was coming so I was able to brace for impact. James, please, we hope to keep your promise.
Kruelaid, bad news. Your Pathfinder stuff was denied its visa.
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Get this!
In my side cart (i haven't recieved an e-mail or order confirmation in my Account yet) this is what it lists:
(With PF Advantage already factored in)
$42.49 PF Campaign Setting
$12.74 Crimson Throne Map Folio
$13.99 PF #12
$13.99 PF #13
$00.00 PF Companion: Second Darkness
$83.21 Subtotal
$00.00 S&H
-$10.39 S&H Discount
$98.26 Order Total
Now I failed Maths, but even I think something looks decidedly screwy with this equation!
I just checked the order page on here, and it comes to the same price, $124.09.
I'm sure Cosmo is aware of this though.
Am I glad I don't have to pay Shipping costs to Germany.. Even though I live there.. ;-)
MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
That is awful. You must be punished. I will break into your house and steal all your postal stamps.
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There is no need for ANYONE to cancel their subscriptions, because this is a one time deal to get the schedule back on track.Really? Forget what happened in June?
PF10
PF11
W3
LB1
Guide to Darkmoon Valeand..
D1.5 for those that couldn't get it from the FLGS.
How about April..
PF8
PF9
W2
D3
Classic Monsters
GazeteerAtleast this month you only pay for shipping once, unlike April and June where you may have paid for shipping twice.
Now I'm not complaining, but the point is, there's been more then one month were multiple products from the same subscription were shipped in that month, and shipped means BILLED if you subscribe.
Heh. I forgot, prolly because they didn't ship at the same time for me, and because I don't pay for my subscription. I just meant I don't think this will happen again, because of two small pieces of evidence. Paizo doesn't have the manpower to do this consistently, and the product schedule shows one PF for september.
That will be useless to you since you don't have access to a United States Postal Service like I do...;-)
That is awful. You must be punished. I will break into your house and steal all your postal stamps.
I don't want to get a monetary use out of this. I want you to suffer. And it's only the start. I'll melt all your tupperware and pour it into your sink, feed all your pets blood to make them more aggressive (that really works, I have heard that somewhere, so it must be true), enter your email-address into any newsletter I can find, and place some personal ads in your name. Like: "Desperate (insert really embarrassing deviation) in need of gratification.", "Free phone sex from a hot 18-year-old", and "I give away my nex-gen consoles and all my games. Call 22:00 - 06:00"
Yes, I'm evil, the devil tips his hat to me.
2 PFs
1 x P Com
2 x P ChronLooks like I'm in for 23 bucks S&H to China.
Since it is printed in China.. they should set something up just for you so you get them right off the Presses... at a lower Shipping rate..;-)
Gaaahhh! Don't remind me!
Huh. LB2 didn't make the announcement for my 'Soon to Ship' email. If it did, I'd almost make free shipping.
Reason why Ill unforntually have to hold off both the beta and the campaign setting for this month... unless, of course, I can convince my wife (or my parents...) that since its father's day, I deserve a couple nice new books...
Dollar is around 1,6 reais right now, plus shipping. Prices go up to an equivalent of 160 dollars if I also get this two books
The bad thing is that I was considering getting 3 Planet Stories this in August too, and 3 more the following month...
Hey, don't you guys want to give me father's day gifts? ;)
Huh?... That is because it is coming in September..
I'd have sworn it was supposed to be a July/Early August release. Not coming out at the same time as Hungry are the Dead. We're supposed to get Modules every two months, not two in the same month.
Well, I for one am looking forward to my Bog box O' Paizo this month. I'll be getting the two AP books, the campaign freebie, the campaign setting, and two copies of the PRPG.
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Huh?... That is because it is coming in September..I'd have sworn it was supposed to be a July/Early August release. Not coming out at the same time as Hungry are the Dead. We're supposed to get Modules every two months, not two in the same month.
*nods*
Doesn't bother me though, I want both! It might have been pushed since no Chronicle book that month.
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schedule shows one PF for september.But 2 Modules... so they are doing it again next month..
The modules are the only part of the operation that are still behind, unfortunately, but even while the schedule currently shows two shipping in one month, since we're also transitioning to a bimonthly (one every other month) module production, there's a better chance we'll try to stretch the modules out so they don't do a 2-in-one-month thing. Which means that a module WILL double up with the first Pathfinder Companion, of course, which is also a "doubling" but not as obviously.
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The modules are the only part of the operation that are still behind, unfortunately, but even while the schedule currently shows two shipping in one month, since we're also transitioning to a bimonthly (one every other month) module production, there's a better chance we'll try to stretch the modules out so they don't do a 2-in-one-month thing. Which means that a module WILL double up with the first Pathfinder Companion, of course, which is also a "doubling" but not as obviously.
James, I have no problem with separate Subscriptions shipping at the same time... I expect that... If I subscribe to 4 different Subscriptions I will not be surprised if I get 4 products that month.
Next time you guys get behind.. can you try to work out your printing schedule so we don't get hit with multiple products of the same subscription in 1 month.
1 time is understandable... 4 times is a pattern..
If my understanding of the subscriptions is incorrect though.. would like to know now so I can re think them.
Anyway... besides this complaint...thanks for the great products!!! *just wish I had a group to use them ;-)*
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Next time you guys get behind.. can you try to work out your printing schedule so we don't get hit with multiple products of the same subscription in 1 month.
The thing is... if we get behind, that means money that we budgeted for at the start of a year isn't coming in, which means that it's harder for us to pay salaries, freelancers, bills, and printing costs among other things. Getting behind schedule actually hurts Paizo A LOT, and the necessary evil of throwing in several months of 60 to 70 hour weeks and the resulting compressed release schedule HAD to happen in order for us to get to where we are today, which is on time with regular payments coming in.
If we fall behind again, you can expect to see a similar situation. Which is why I'm not interested in falling behind again. And if we DO fall behind again... the folks responsible might get sacked.
So yeah. Falling off schedule isn't really an option anymore.
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This has been coming for a while. I thought it was well-understood that August would be a big month if only for the fact that the campaign setting was $50 compared to the cost of the typical Chronicles items.
The only thing I'm surprised about was the map folio coming out this month. Otherwise, I've been saving up my "fun money" for the last week weeks to make sure I'd have enough to cover my subscriptions for August.
Behind schedule or not, the subscriber forum community bares at least some responsibility for any "subscription bloat" that you see. For example, the Map Folios are a direct result of customer demands for reprinted poster maps from the AP's. A number of other products are also direct results of posters saying, "we want more, Paizo!"
We got more. And here we are complaining about it.
Just my two.
-Skeld
I'm glad I'm not a subscriber because with the cost of Paizo shipping and handling, the price are really too high!
For exemple, I just pre-order on Amazon the following for 62.14$CAD (with Free shipping) instead of 125.60$CAD with Paizo:
Pathfinder #13—Second Darkness Chapter 1: "Shadow in the Sky" (OGL)
Pathfinder Chronicles: Campaign Setting (OGL) Hardcover
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game (OGL) Beta Release Print Edition
I known that I won't have the free PDF... But twice the price for the same products is a little bit excessive... I love Paizo stuff, but I just can't understand why someone could want to pay 12$ of shipping and handling for each rpg book he want to order...
If we fall behind again, you can expect to see a similar situation. Which is why I'm not interested in falling behind again. And if we DO fall behind again... the folks responsible might get sacked.
So yeah. Falling off schedule isn't really an option anymore.
Ouch. Speaking as someone who's gone through "several months of 60 to 70 hour weeks," it can take a real toll.
My hat's off to everyone at Paizo for their efforts over the last year. They've not only started several product lines, fleshed out an entire campaign setting, readied their own RPG, and formed a tournament play organization, but consistently kept their quality high, or even improved...
The last thing I want to see is anyone over there getting sacked.
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I love Paizo stuff, but I just can't understand why someone could want to pay 12$ of shipping and handling for each rpg book he want to order...
I don't know about anyone else, although I could guess, but I do it to support Paizo.
And it's not really $12 shipping for each book. I'm paying less than ten for five books.
I'm glad- and proud- to be a subscriber.
We got more. And here we are complaining about it.
Just my two.
-Skeld
I'm not complaining. I've been looking forward to my big box 'o goodness for months.
I don't know about anyone else, although I could guess, but I do it to support Paizo.
Since Paizo release their products on Amazon, I guess I support Paizo As much as you do... but It just cost me less $ to do so...
And 12$ shipping cost per book is for Canadian non-subscriber... and it's pretty excessive...
And 12$ per book is for non-subscriber... and it's pretty excessive...
It sounds like you could order more than one book at a time, and save on shipping as a result. $12 might just be the minimum for international postage. I doubt that if you bought two or three books at a time that the shipping would increase to $24 or $36 dollars, though perhaps so other Canadian pazionians would correct me.
Oh, and subscribers don't get a discount on postage.
That's why most subscribers bundle their shipments. I couldn't afford my subs if they shipped separately.
Yes.. but for unknown reason, they charge me the 12$ for each book when I try to order them.. This is why I decide to pre-order on Amazon... And on Amazon, you have about 25% reduce cost for pre-order books...
I'm not trying to sell Amazon to anyone here, but if people need others option, it's a pretty good one...
I have two trans-coastal flights coming up. That's when I'll get my reading in. That is, if things arrive by then.
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Yes.. but for unknown reason, they charge me the 12$ for each book when I try to order them.. This is why I decide to pre-order on Amazon... And on Amazon, you have about 25% reduce cost for pre-order books...
I'm not trying to sell Amazon to anyone here, but if people need others option, it's a pretty good one...
Have you let Cosmo or someone else know about that? Because that just can't be right. Unless you live off-planet or something.
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The thing is... if we get behind, that means money that we budgeted for at the start of a year isn't coming in, which means that it's harder for us to pay salaries, freelancers, bills, and printing costs among other things. Getting behind schedule actually hurts Paizo A LOT, and the necessary evil of throwing in several months of 60 to 70 hour weeks and the resulting compressed release schedule HAD to happen in order for us to get to where we are today, which is on time with regular payments coming in.If we fall behind again, you can expect to see a similar situation. Which is why I'm not interested in falling behind again. And if we DO fall behind again... the folks responsible might get sacked.
So yeah. Falling off schedule isn't really an option anymore.
James...thanks for explaining..
You are right about the saving... I stop before the checkout when I see the amount of money for shipping and handling...
Take a look at my order:
Pathfinder #13—Second Darkness Chapter 1: "Shadow in the Sky" $19.99
Pathfinder Chronicles: Campaign Setting (OGL) Hardcover $49.99
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game (OGL) Beta Release Print Edition $ 24.99
Subtotal (3 Items) $94.97
Shipping & Handling $36.18
Shipping & Handling Discount - $5.55
Order Total $125.60
Wait to ship these items together (less expensive)
Subtotal (3 Items) $94.97
Shipping & Handling $26.81
Order Total $121.78
But overall, I don't save much if I compare it to the price I just pay with Amazon (62.14$)... It's half the amount!
I was a PDF exclusive buyer until today (to save shipping cost)... Now I have another option more cost effective...
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You are right about the saving... I stop before the checkout when I see the amount of money for shipping and handling...
Take a look at my order:
Pathfinder #13—Second Darkness Chapter 1: "Shadow in the Sky" $19.99
Pathfinder Chronicles: Campaign Setting (OGL) Hardcover $49.99
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game (OGL) Beta Release Print Edition $ 24.99Subtotal (3 Items) $94.97
Shipping & Handling $36.18
Shipping & Handling Discount - $5.55
Order Total $125.60Wait to ship these items together (less expensive)
Subtotal (3 Items) $94.97
Shipping & Handling $26.81
Order Total $121.78But overall, I don't save much if I compare it to the price I just pay with Amazon (62.14$)... It's half the amount!
I was a PDF exclusive buyer until today (to save shipping cost)... Now I have another option more cost effective...
When I do "Wait to ship together" for those three items the combined shipping is a little less than nine dollars. Priority USPS is $14.60, and two-day UPS jumps up to $37.31.
Where do you live?
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Have you let Cosmo or someone else know about that? Because that just can't be right. Unless you live off-planet or something.Yes.. but for unknown reason, they charge me the 12$ for each book when I try to order them.. This is why I decide to pre-order on Amazon... And on Amazon, you have about 25% reduce cost for pre-order books...
I'm not trying to sell Amazon to anyone here, but if people need others option, it's a pretty good one...
No it's right. Amazon sells everything 25-38% less then retail cost. The difference between ordering from Amazon and ordering from Paizo is..
1) You get the pdfs for free.
2) You get the products sooner (I assume Paizo ships their books to customers the same time they ship their books to distributors.)
3) Paizo makes more money off the direct sale.
Some some odd reason Amazon takes 6 to 8 weeks to deliver anything I order, while Paizo does the same in 2 to 4 weeks. And, somehow, Amazon is still more expensive on S&H
So, if its Paizo-made, im still with Paizo
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No it's right. Amazon sells everything 25-38% less then retail cost. The difference between ordering from Amazon and ordering from Paizo is..
1) You get the pdfs for free.
2) You get the products sooner (I assume Paizo ships their books to customers the same time they ship their books to distributors.)
3) Paizo makes more money off the direct sale.
The free Pdfs is why I stick with Paizo..
But I have never gotten anything sooner through Paizo..
Amazon takes a week to 2 weeks to get stuff to me..
Anything shipped through Paizo takes 4-8 weeks..
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No it's right. Amazon sells everything 25-38% less then retail cost.
It's his shipping charges that seem weird. If I'm reading Etrigan right, he's saying that when he goes to check out he's still showing an individual shipping charge for each item. And each shipping charge seems really high.
I know the Pathfinder books are cheaper through Amazon. Hell, everything else it, too. My bookshelves are a testament to that.
you pay S&H through Amazon?... I don't I ever have paid S&H handeling through Amazon.Some some odd reason Amazon takes 6 to 8 weeks to deliver anything I order, while Paizo does the same in 2 to 4 weeks. And, somehow, Amazon is still more expensive on S&H
So, if its Paizo-made, im still with Paizo
Quite a bit in fact. Something like 4 dollars per book + 2 per extra book up to a certain amount, plus some other tax
I love Brazil, but sometimes Id love to be able to drop by the USA more often like old times :(
Quite a bit in fact. Something like 4 dollars per book + 2 per extra book up to a certain amount, plus some other tax. I love Brazil, but sometimes Id love to be able to drop by the USA more often like old times :(Daang suck, you can't even use Amazon Prime.
Hm Prime looks expensive in the US as $79 a year. At amazon.de it's 30 € a year.
Hm Prime looks expensive in the US as $79 a year. At amazon.de it's 30 € a year.Depends on how often you order from Amazon. I was buying all my D&D books from them until I got a job at a bookstore.. if it was available then I would have totally gotten it.
Of course. I meant expensive compared to the 30 € I pay, which is about $45.