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Early on there was some inclusion of "Alien" & "SpaceShip" in Galorian conversations...Um? Have I missed it or is it yet to sniff open air?
It's there. It's just not front-and-center there. We're still in "focus on the classic D&D style adventures" mode right now, but we'll eventually end up doing something with the spaceship and Numeria and robots and stuff... assuming folk are up for a new version of something like "Expedition to the Barrier Peaks," of course.
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Early on there was some inclusion of "Alien" & "SpaceShip" in Galorian conversations...Um? Have I missed it or is it yet to sniff open air?It's there. It's just not front-and-center there. We're still in "focus on the classic D&D style adventures" mode right now, but we'll eventually end up doing something with the spaceship and Numeria and robots and stuff... assuming folk are up for a new version of something like "Expedition to the Barrier Peaks," of course.
As long as it is extreemly obscure...
"The Oards are a humanoid race whose power and strength derive from the mundane arts of technology and science — arts which have even given them the power to travel through time.
Their origin is obscure, but their influence on the world of Aelos is all too apparent since, in the distant future of Aelos, they have established a vast and mighty technological empire. Aelos' inhabitants could never have been defeated, however, and the Oard Empire could never have been founded, if the major races and the power of magic had developed fully there. The Oards' empire is founded on their technologically-based ability to send small groups of agents back to critical times and places in Aelos' past, there to nip in the bud the major races and their powers, and thus pave the way for the Oard conquest."-CM6 where chaos reigns
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Well, I don't like the idea of spaceships and robots and laser-guns and stuff like this in fantasy settings. I didn't like EttBP as well, because it introduces SF stuff nearly unchanged into a fantasy environment. This doesn't suit my taste, but I'm curious, how Paizo will introduce these features into Golarion. If it's done more in a Swords&Planets-style, I'd be more pleased. Please make sure that these features suit the tone and atmosphere of Golarion and that it does feel exotic, but not alien. Like the wand-rifle from EwtP that has an SF-feel to it but blends well with fantasy flavour. I hope you get what I mean...:)
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Well, I don't like the idea of spaceships and robots and laser-guns and stuff like this in fantasy settings. I didn't like EttBP as well, because it introduces SF stuff nearly unchanged into a fantasy environment. This doesn't suit my taste, but I'm curious, how Paizo will introduce these features into Golarion. If it's done more in a Swords&Planets-style, I'd be more pleased. Please make sure that these features suit the tone and atmosphere of Golarion and that it does feel exotic, but not alien. Like the wand-rifle from EwtP that has an SF-feel to it but blends well with fantasy flavour. I hope you get what I mean...:)
Well considering it costs 2.5 million gp and takes a hundred years for a 20th level wizard to enchant a flying ship...spelljammer might be a bit on the nose.
...assuming folk are up for a new version of something like "Expedition to the Barrier Peaks," of course.
Emphatically yes!
I personally would love a retooling of the old 2e Spelljammer campaign setting ... though perhaps without the Giant Space Hamsters ... oh wait who am I kidding, bring forth Wooly Rupert!
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Steampunk/warmachine...** spoiler omitted **
Not realy an option. A Druid in SteamArmor would have enough heat metal for 3.5 minutes of steampower.
412 Kobold Druids...
I also don't care for standard sci-fi elements in my fantasy. However, I *do* like Spelljammer. So I'd second the vote for breathing some new life into those old ideas...
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Early on there was some inclusion of "Alien" & "SpaceShip" in Galorian conversations...Um? Have I missed it or is it yet to sniff open air?It's there. It's just not front-and-center there. We're still in "focus on the classic D&D style adventures" mode right now, but we'll eventually end up doing something with the spaceship and Numeria and robots and stuff... assuming folk are up for a new version of something like "Expedition to the Barrier Peaks," of course.
Expedition to the Barrier Peaks is classic D&D style adventures!
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While I like this idea, I would prefer it if the technology aspect remained closer to fantasy, than sci-fi. The concept for EttBP was cool, but I just found some stuff to be a little to blatent. I guess what Im shooting at here is more of a blur when it comes to the technology idea. So that when its encountered it feels alien, and otherworldly but not so much that it ruins the suspension of disbelief.
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While I like this idea, I would prefer it if the technology aspect remained closer to fantasy, than sci-fi. The concept for EttBP was cool, but I just found some stuff to be a little to blatent. I guess what Im shooting at here is more of a blur when it comes to the technology idea. So that when its encountered it feels alien, and otherworldly but not so much that it ruins the suspension of disbelief.
The Doomwheel
"By the gods what is that thing?" Jan Firay and his companions watched from murderer's hill as a mile high wheel of ironwood rolled across the distant Cinderland community of Urglin crushing it.
Alma Ruslo fell to her knees in shock.
"My family..." She reached out toward the destroyer with a hand.
Jan gripped her hand.
"No time. We need to get to Hester's Well before Sun-up."
The now Stationary engine belched steam in agreement.
DM ADVISORY: THe Doomwheel is a terrible steam engine and mobile fortress of ironwood powered by some four hundred and twelve Kobold Druids bent on exterminating all those who have caused damage to the environment.
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The Swarmmasters
Cintra Bristol woke to the screams and found herself tied down.
"What?" Her body was bound up in some web cocoon...
A scream came from right next to her and she struggled to turn her head to look.
A large Brainworm was working on the twitching corpse of her faithful companion animal "The Jade".
Beyond "The Jade" were a hundred Villagers from Sandpoint; most dead and some about to be - the screams mixed with an unfamiliar screeching. They were trapped in the terrible webhive that had descended on their community during the night.
A shadow loomed over her. It was a faceless creature. It held a Brainworm which it placed on her head.
Cintra Bristol Screamed with terror.
DM ADVISORY: During the night, a flying Webhive belonging to the Swarm Masters (Dopplegangers) descends on the sleepy village the PCs are spending the night in. The Dopplegangers, supported by their assorted Parasite and insect Aberations capture and devour the locals.
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I like Science Fiction, and I like mixing it with fantasy. However, I dont really consider little gray men with laser beams and anal probes to be real sci-fi; it's modern fantasy, and really crappy stuff at that. I love the fact that Golarion's system has life-supporting planets, but if they're full of furry little koalas with antennae, proud martian princesses, and so on (ie: Barsoom), I'd be a Sad Panda.
I'm really not sure how to articulate my tastes on the subject, but here's a try;
imaginative alien monster ecologies. the more beleivable the better. Odd parochials like no eyes, phyla recognized by their distinctive side-ways mandibles and radially-placed eyes.
Lovecraftian themes; intelligent races that dont build space stations or ships, but rather are individualy powerful enough to exist without prolific tech. like the Elder Things.
If there's a crashed spaceship somewhere on Golarion, and it forms the basis of a thriving trade in starmetals, thats fine with me. Provided, of course, that it doesnt look like the starship enterprise. For good measure, I'd like to see an internal structure that makes no sense to humans at all, with incomprehensibly-shaped controls, and partially-magic-based systems that have long ago degraded into non-activity.
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"More than a dozen worlds neighbor Golarion..."
"Fourth from the sun is Akiton, the Red Planet..."
I imagine all sorts of planetary romance type adventures. Could we be seeing something akin to Iron Lords of Jupiter? :)
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Infinet Media & Design
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If it's very close and/or fully interchangeable with Spelljammer, then I'm definitely interested.
But robots? Nuh-uh. (Admittedly, I very much disliked EttBP. I know, I know. But lasers and robots are the very last things I - and especially my players - are interested in for our fantasy campaigns.)
As long as its inclusion is made very clear right up front and in the beginning, and doesn't show up in the middle of an AP or something, then I'm fine (so I can steer far, far away).
I too am a little wary of mixing sci-fi and fantasy. I really like the idea of Numeria and the Silver Mount but if it is done in too much of a sci-fi way it could really ruin the sense of golarion as a fantasy world. As long as the whole sci-fi thing is rare enough that it seems very mysterious when it does pop up then I'll probably be ok with it. My main concern is that it gets over used or made overpowered and overwhelming. Still paizo's take on fantasy gaming thus far has been pretty similiar to my own so I think they'll do a good job handling sci-fi properly.
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Actualy, it suddenly occurs to me that mixing mature, realistic science fiction with good fantasy might yeild some very interesting results. Skeletal Space Zombies, anyone? A race that succumbed entirely to undeath, and now roams the cosmos in dead, cold husks of spaceships, their shriveled bodies frozen solid. The ships obviously have no life support, and only a flight computer (alternatively, a dead brain in a jar hooked up to the controls) directing the death ship towards the nearest life-supporting planet. The ship crashes, the alien wights thaw, and the feast begins.
Must go now. Time to begin combing the monster books for really creepy undead. I also recall the existance of a psionic brain in a jar in Libris Mortis.
Also: robots are fine, as long as they're nice and alien. but please, no Gort or Klatu Vertata Nikto in that context(those words are now belong to the fantasy domain)
Denizens of Leng have conquered the moon, and use the dark side as a base for their flying-ship raids on Golarion. Yeah!
I think the Denizens of Leng have been BEATEN in their race to the moon...
Wallace and Gromit got there first.
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THE HARVESTOR
Kobold Cleaver waded through the marsh with the thought of Orc pie on his mind.
A cone of light illuminated him from above.
"Oy? Hoozat?" He stuggled to locate the source of the illumination.
"I wonder if they'll have Orc Pie?" Kobold Cleaver was lifted out of the mire and into the sky.
DM ADVISORY: Lone travellers are being abducted by a wizard collecting parts for his flesh golems. The wizard is in a flying wooden sphere fifty feet in diameter.
(And the Clangers were from the 1960s, before Armstrong & Aldrin. The programme makers had to hedge their bets, and gave the human astronaut a combined USA/USSR flag. - Mr Trivia)
Dag-gone! Any time I need cartoon moon trivia, I now know where to go. Thanks, Snorter!