Item Cards No Longer Part of Pathfinder Chronicles Line


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Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

As you may have noticed, we've been making some changes to our Pathfinder product line, including the introduction of the Pathfinder Companion and the rebranding of GameMastery Modules to Pathfinder Modules.

We've also re-evaluated the Pathfinder Chronicles line, which had previously been defined as sort of a catch-all for everything that wasn't an Adventure Path. In our current vision, the Chronicles line is now focused on non-adventure products that build the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting.

This means that the Item Cards don't fit in the Chronicles line anymore; instead, they'll be in the Pathfinder Accessories line. As a result, Item Cards will no longer be sent as part of the Pathfinder Chronicles subscription—if you'd like the Item Card sets, you'll need to preorder them separately.

Grand Lodge

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber

Thanks for the update, Vic.

-Skeld

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

*cheers*

Thankyou Paizo... I need a "Paizo 4 Life" t-shrit now. :)


I pour a cold beverage in anticipation of Kruelaid's inevitable arrival.

:D

Glad it worked out for ya buddy. You stuck to your guns and it paid off.

Liberty's Edge

I'm happy to hear about this. I think it is a smart move.

Now, does that mean that there will be a Pathfinder Accessories subscription in the near future. 'Cause I have them all right now, and I don't want someone to one-up me.

Liberty's Edge

Once again - Paizo rocks!

Thank you!

Dark Archive

Great move!

Do we assume the Harrow Deck remains in the current subscriptions though? I notic it's still there in the online shop?

Thanks,

Lewis.


Sweet. That is awesome. Having said that I got a free pack of card with my last subscription and I kind of like them. Ohh well that's just the way it goes I guess.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I still want the AP tie-in cards, so will we be seeing an Acessories subscription?

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Watcher wrote:
I pour a cold beverage in anticipation of Kruelaid's inevitable arrival. :D Glad it worked out for ya buddy. You stuck to your guns and it paid off.

Lol.. it might be awhile before we see Kruelaid.. he's probably running down a street somewhere naked proclaiming victory. :)

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Cheddar Bearer wrote:
Sweet. That is awesome. Having said that I got a free pack of card with my last subscription and I kind of like them. Ohh well that's just the way it goes I guess.

You can still get the item cards if you want, they just won't be ordered automatically for you anymore. No big deal.

Ross Byers wrote:
I still want the AP tie-in cards, so will we be seeing an Acessories subscription?

We campaigned to get them out of Chronicles, start one up for an Accessories subscription. :)


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber
SirUrza wrote:
Watcher wrote:
I pour a cold beverage in anticipation of Kruelaid's inevitable arrival. :D Glad it worked out for ya buddy. You stuck to your guns and it paid off.
Lol.. it might be awhile before we see Kruelaid.. he's probably running down a street somewhere naked proclaiming victory. :)

Hehehehe, yea, you are probably right.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber

It looks like the Harrow Deck is still part of the Chronicles line. I imagine this is because it is a game mechanic that is incorporated in the AP.

Lewy wrote:

Great move!

Do we assume the Harrow Deck remains in the current subscriptions though? I notic it's still there in the online shop?

Thanks,

Lewis.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Isn't Kruelaid in China? I'm sure he'll proclaim victory in the streets, but he'll have to wake up first.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Ross Byers wrote:
Isn't Kruelaid in China? I'm sure he'll proclaim victory in the streets, but he'll have to wake up first.

Oh sure.. inject reality into this.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Ross Byers wrote:
I still want the AP tie-in cards, so will we be seeing an Acessories subscription?

Mmmm.... that's kind of tricky, considering the "accessories" line currently contains things like T-shirts and such, and new additions will be really unpredictable in terms of product type, frequency, and pricing.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Elorebaen wrote:
It looks like the Harrow Deck is still part of the Chronicles line. I imagine this is because it is a game mechanic that is incorporated in the AP.

Yep—it builds the setting, in its own way.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Vic Wertz wrote:
Mmmm.... that's kind of tricky, considering the "accessories" line currently contains things like T-shirts and such, and new additions will be really unpredictable in terms of product type, frequency, and pricing.

I'll just cope with remembering to order an extra item deck twice a year, then. I don't want to pile anything else on Gary, especially if I'd be the only one using it.


Drinks for everyone! Well as many as I can afford after I add yet another subscription to my account.

BTW, I just finished teaching class. Its 10:30 AM here at the time of this post.

In addition, I formally apologize for any posts I wrote that implied or even outright stated that Paizo doesn't listen or that they are not using common sense in their bundling. James, Vic, you two in particular.

And to the brains behind this, be it one person or a whole group of you, thank you.

Sovereign Court

Thank you, Paizo! This move is very much appreciated. Forget the Presidential Elections; let's have a Paizocracy in 2008!

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Kruelaid, the man of the hour, finally... we've been waiting. :)

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Zootcat wrote:
Paizocracy in 2008!

Mona/McArtor '08!

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Vic Wertz wrote:
Elorebaen wrote:
It looks like the Harrow Deck is still part of the Chronicles line. I imagine this is because it is a game mechanic that is incorporated in the AP.
Yep—it builds the setting, in its own way.

I'm going to be cynical and say that this decision has come "too late" in that the harrow decks were ordered and probably printing already based on subscribers and that's why it's still in the subscription. :)

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Ross Byers wrote:
Zootcat wrote:
Paizocracy in 2008!
Mona/McArtor '08!

Bah.. McArtor's the first lady! Don't you know he's been seen in drag.

The ticket is Mona/James '08. Vic gets to be Secretary of Defense. :)


I'm still interested to see what happens with the Map Folio. Sebastian has grumbled about it and I'm totally in agreement with him on that one. We already have those maps.

And it bothers me that the poster maps are tied to something that I already have.


SirUrza wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Zootcat wrote:
Paizocracy in 2008!
Mona/McArtor '08!

Bah.. McArtor's the first lady! Don't you know he's been seen in drag.

The ticket is Mona/James '08. Vic gets to be Secretary of Defense. :)

~laughter~ Poor Mike. Always getting picked on. ~WEG~ However, he does need to change the color of his lipstick. It just clashes with his dress.

Liberty's Edge

Kruelaid wrote:

I'm still interested to see what happens with the Map Folio. Sebastian has grumbled about it and I'm totally in agreement with him on that one. We already have those maps.

And it bothers me that the poster maps are tied to something that I already have.

You can never have enough maps. God, I love maps. I mean, I really do. But at least they make snese for the subscription.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Kruelaid wrote:

I'm still interested to see what happens with the Map Folio. Sebastian has grumbled about it and I'm totally in agreement with him on that one. We already have those maps.

And it bothers me that the poster maps are tied to something that I already have.

Map folios do seem to be accessories.. especially for a product that's "done" but I can live with them.. atleast they're something most of us would use.

You didn't subscribe yet. :)


DeadDMWalking wrote:


You can never have enough maps. God, I love maps. I mean, I really do. But at least they make snese for the subscription.

I hear you brother.


SirUrza wrote:


You didn't subscribe yet. :)

I'm still waiting for my P.Comp. sub to get sorted out, my subscription page is a mess.


Thank you Paizo for this change.

The Exchange

Vic Wertz wrote:
This means that the Item Cards don't fit in the Chronicles line anymore; instead, they'll be in the Pathfinder Accessories line. As a result, Item Cards will no longer be sent as part of the Pathfinder Chronicles subscription—if you'd like the Item Card sets, you'll need to preorder them separately.

Boo. :(


I threw in the towel and opted for the subscription when it became aparrent that the Map Folio does not, in fact, have miniature scale maps. Not getting the item cards makes it much better for me. Thank you.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I just realized something. The biggest advantage to subscribing over preordering the the free PDF, since there is no discount on Chronicles items. Item cards have no PDFs. So once Gary sorts out combining items with subscriptions, I won't even notice the difference.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Yeah there is.. you get 15%.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

SirUrza wrote:
Yeah there is.. you get 15%.

Not as a result of subscribing though. (Well, as a result of subscribing to Pathfinder, not Chronicles.)

Dark Archive Contributor

SirUrza wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Zootcat wrote:
Paizocracy in 2008!
Mona/McArtor '08!
Bah.. McArtor's the first lady! Don't you know he's been seen in drag.

Photoshopped slanderous lies from the competition. Politics is dirty, you know.

Also, neither of us will be eligible for the presidency this year. Catch us in '12, though. :D


I it isn't too late for Nader, it isn't too late for you.

Liberty's Edge

Minimum age requirement. But it wouldn't be too early to start fundraising. Who's up for a $500 per plate pizza lunch at the Paizo offices?

Sovereign Court

Thankyou.

I am now a Chronicles subscriber.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32

Ah, the one sour spot of my chronicles subscription has been purged. Thank you!


Ross Byers wrote:
SirUrza wrote:
Yeah there is.. you get 15%.
Not as a result of subscribing though. (Well, as a result of subscribing to Pathfinder, not Chronicles.)

Actually, you DO get the 15% discount with the Chronicles subscription. It'll kick in on items shipped after the 10th of March.

Here is the quote from the offer:

Paizo wrote:


Beginning March 10, 2008, Pathfinder subscribers will receive the Pathfinder Advantage: 15% off of suggested retail price of all products on paizo.com (with the exception of non-Paizo PDFs). This 15% discount even applies to our GameMastery Modules and Pathfinder Chronicles subscriptions, which aren't normally discounted! (If you already subscribe to these products, you need do nothing—appropriate discounts will be applied automatically.) With the Pathfinder Advantage, you can save on over 20,000 gaming products in the paizo.com store.

There is some qualifiers:

Paizo wrote:


Special Notes:


  • The Pathfinder Advantage does not stack with other subscription or sale discounts. This means that if a product is already on sale for 10% off of suggested retail, you'll get an extra 5% off. (Of course, if a product is already on sale for 50% off, you'll still get 50% off.)
  • To qualify for the Pathfinder Advantage, the most recent volume of Pathfinder must have been shipped to you, or must be waiting to ship with your other subscription products.
  • The Pathfinder Advantage discount will automatically be applied to all new paizo.com orders as long as you remain an active subscriber.

The Exchange

Ross Byers wrote:
So once Gary sorts out combining items with subscriptions, I won't even notice the difference.

This is exactly the reason I would want the item cards to be included. There's almost no chance now that I will buy the item cards, where before they would have just been a neat toy that came with my other subs. It's like getting a Grimace helicopter in a happy meal. Doesn't fill you up but it sure is fun to play with the propeller.

P.S. Nothing can kill the Grimace.

Liberty's Edge

Thank you. This change makes me even happier. I'm glad to see Paizo remains reactive to its subscribers.

Liberty's Edge

Now I'm down to just not wanting the map books. Hmmmmmmm.

EDIT: Well, until/unless Paizo goes 4E, anyway.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Torillan wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
SirUrza wrote:
Yeah there is.. you get 15%.
Not as a result of subscribing though. (Well, as a result of subscribing to Pathfinder, not Chronicles.)

Actually, you DO get the 15% discount with the Chronicles subscription. It'll kick in on items shipped after the 10th of March.

That discount is not triggered by a Chronicles subscription. It is triggered by the Pathfinder subscription. I get the same discount ordering the item cards separately.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Regardless, if you're a subscriber you get a discount. :)

Dark Archive

Awesome. Love all the new changes.

Liberty's Edge

This has me one step away from being a Chronicles subscriber...if you remove the map folios as well, you'll clinch it for me.

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