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I know it's SO early to determine anything at this point but I wanted to get the idea out there because I'm ADD like that...
With whatever format y'all decide to go with would you consider putting the other "#e" conversions on the site to download. Like if you stayed with 3.5e, post the 4e conversions of the NPC's and monsters and such.
I have no idea what kind of time that would take but I'm just throwing it out there...
seacrest out.
All evidence thus far points to no conversions at the moment. WotC keeps saying that 4th is a completely different animal and conversions will be way too hard. We will have to wait and see I guess..
There has to be some kind of conversion. 2 adventure paths worth of creatures kinda precludes that.
In the worst case, everything has to be rebuilt from ground up in 4e. Even migrating from 2e to 3.xe included some rebuilding, as a lot of basic mechanics worked differently (ThacO, Saves) or was introduced the first time (skills, feats). Depending upon the changes in 4e, we will see a lot of not converting but rebuilding. At that point, the DI of WotC might come in real handy - the character generator included with the 3.0 PH was very helpful in this regard.
I don´t think that any publisher will have the resources to include stats for various editions of the game - and even if, should they include stats for 2.0, 1.0 or OD&D as well? Where should they draw the line?
Stefan
I think we should wait to see if 4E is even any good before trying to figure out conversions. If the Paizo community ends up liking 3.5 better, there's no reason that Pathfinder and Gamemastery need to make thw switch. If 4E isn't crap, then switching your game shouldn't be a big deal either.
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All evidence thus far points to no conversions at the moment. WotC keeps saying that 4th is a completely different animal and conversions will be way too hard.Yeah, I get that. This is for the paizo guys, not the Wotc guys...
That doesn't change the answer. We haven't even seen 4e yet (but the WotC guys have), so we can't say yes or no to this request.
Pardon my ignorance if this is common knowledge. Is there any assurance that any of the $e system will even resemble and/or be included in OGL. For that matter, can OGL be revoked (not that that would seem to be good business sense)? If what I percieve to be, in my knee-jerk way, the WotC move towards shouldering out 3rd party product is any indication, could Paizo even participate in 4e products?
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The OGL cannot be revoked, the 3E stuff that is out there remains out there.
WotC has said that there will be an OGL and SRD for 4E. There have been vague hints that the OGL license for 4E will be different from 3E.
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The OGL cannot be revoked, the 3E stuff that is out there remains out there.
WotC has said that there will be an OGL and SRD for 4E. There have been vague hints that the OGL license for 4E will be different from 3E.
A publisher I spoke to at GenCon stated that they were told by WotC that they would be one of only 5 publishers who would be licensed to produce 4th Edition OGL materials, but when I asked Wizards if that was true they stated that the OGL would be open to everyone, but exactly what that license would contain, like you said, was up in the air still.
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James Jacobs said that IF they switch to 4e for later pathfinders he HOPES to be able to provide 4e conversion notes for the earlier Pathfinders. Note the IF and HOPES, and that I am not James Jacobs, so I might have it wrong.
I know Wizards were meeting with some of the better OGL producers about licenses, and I'm pretty sure the upshot is that there will be an OGL license and there MAY be a new d20 license. At one point they were considering making the d20 license fee-based, but apparently that idea is probably being dropped, and the entire second license structure may be as well.
I don't think it would be practical for Paizo to continue to produce conversion notes (regardless of whether they are publishing primarilly under 3.5 or 4e) on an ongoing basis after the dust settles. Although I believe I read somewheres that there were going to be official conversions to True20 and some other popular systems, so what the hell do I know?
Although I believe I read somewheres that there were going to be official conversions to True20 and some other popular systems, so what the hell do I know?
You know a bunch of neat, archaic ways to cut a man down with a real steel sword, scribe. If only you lived closer...
Well I can tell you that from reading the GenCon blogs, at least one of the staff of WotC (I can't remember which one) had a 'meeting' with Eric Mona about the future of WotC and Paizo. I believe that not only will Paizo switch to 4e, but that it may also play are part is shaping the foundations of the new game.
Hey, they already made Asmodeus a god . . .
Cuz I've got some ideas...
I hope 4E has more monkeys.
I believe that not only will Paizo switch to 4e, but that it may also play are part is shaping the foundations of the new game.Really?!?!
Cuz I've got some ideas...
It's really not such a preposterous assumption. If there is one other company that WotC trusts will bring out good quality 4e products it will be Paizo.
Cuz I've got some ideas...
Lemmee guess? Could it be 4E ....
Monkey should be a core PC race.
To replace gnomes.
>:0
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!
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I believe that not only will Paizo switch to 4e, but that it may also play are part is shaping the foundations of the new game.Really?!?!
Cuz I've got some ideas...
I believe this is the [blog post] you were referring to:
FRIDAY
Scott Rouse (my roommate at the show) and I chatted with Lisa Stevens and Erik Mona from Paizo to discuss 4th Edition plans. We also met with other d20 publishers throughout the show, first to assure them that the OGL would be continuing under 4E, and that we're interested in working with them to iron out things that didn't work so well with 3E. Very exciting!
Oh yeah, I also got to meet with a bunch of our freelancers to tell them more about what's coming and how we're gonna need their help on future 4E products as well as D&D Insider content.
Oh yeah, I also got to meet with a bunch of our freelancers to tell them more about what's coming and how we're gonna need their help on future 4E products as well as D&D Insider content.
I would be excited if I thought they were actually going to make some revolutionary changes…like adding more cowbell.
...like adding more cowbell.
That's the one thing keeping the London Philharmonic from ruling the world.
As the April Fools Day issue of Dragon from a few years back taught us...
Ninjas + Pirates + Dinosaurs + Monkies* = Teh Win
:D
(* ok it was the monkey shaman from Oriental Adventures)
As far as I can see, it seems that Paizo and Wizards have good relationships. Perhaps not perfect but good enough.
I suppose that paizo will eventually convert to 4th - as long as it is not a complete failure - which can be a good prospect.
All the above are just supposition but, what I would like to ask is whether is feasible for paizo to acquire a license from wizards for using Greyhawk as the default setting for her products since that GH is going to die from 2008.
I know that with Pathfinder have introduced an area that will eventually become a new world but with Greyhawk to back Paizo, the attractiveness towards its customers will rise as most seems to love GH and they will widen their customer base with people who are not enlisted in Paizo but like the setting too.
I do not know if this can be achieved but it certainly has a lot of potentials and I would like to know whether this has crossed paizo minds.
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All the above are just supposition but, what I would like to ask is whether is feasible for paizo to acquire a license from wizards for using Greyhawk as the default setting for her products since that GH is going to die from 2008.I know that with Pathfinder have introduced an area that will eventually become a new world but with Greyhawk to back Paizo, the attractiveness towards its customers will rise as most seems to love GH and they will widen their customer base with people who are not enlisted in Paizo but like the setting too.
Eric Mona has said elsewhere on these boards (and I'm only paraphrasing here) that he and Paizo have approached Wizards on more than one occasion about that very idea and, apparently, Wizards has said they are not interested in licensing anything at this point, so it looks like Greyhawk in Paizo's capable hands will not be happening any time soon.
Just want current Pathfinder Adventure Path to, at the least, continue to the end with 3.5 - assuming it is not done before the May 08 switch. When they start a new adventure path, and if they want it to be 4.0, fine, but I may decide to cancel my subscription then since I doubt I will embrace 4.0 any time soon unless the conversions are relatively simple (highly unlikely).
I would serioulsy hope they continue to support 3.5 for the foreseeable future - but I know that that is a fantasy. Heck - I was hoping WOTC would be faithful to 3.5 for at least another 10 years - but that didn't happen.
Just want current Pathfinder Adventure Path to, at the least, continue to the end with 3.5 - assuming it is not done before the May 08 switch. When they start a new adventure path, and if they want it to be 4.0, fine.
I has been stated elsewhere, but it bears repeating.
Paizo's take on it is, that no matter what happens with their decision made on 4th Edition, they will not switch mid-AP.
The earliest we will see Pathfinder switching - if it happens - is around this time 2008.
I do not see Paizo abandoning Varisia to pick up Greyhawk.