Jin Niu, I wish...


Dungeon Magazine General Discussion


Jin Niu, I wish that you would remove your garments, apply Salve of Slipperiness all over, and grapple me.

Guru, who is casting Enlarge...Person.


Well, now that I've read that post I'll have to shower (shiver). . .

Think of the burns you would get . . . and hey, is oil of slipperiness flamable? Pros and cons, man, pros and cons.

Liberty's Edge

Who's Jin Niu?


Female efreet monk from the latest Dungeon . . .

Contributor

LOL.
Good grief. First Tyralandi... now Jin Niu...
Inner dialogue. It's your friend. Try it out.


Jin Niu wrote:

Don't hate me because I could whoop your ass.

Jin Niu, I wish my copy would show up so I can see how you turned out.

GGG

Shadow Lodge

Great Green God wrote:
Jin Niu wrote:

Don't hate me because I could whoop your ass.

Jin Niu, I wish my copy would show up so I can see how you turned out.

GGG

I have my copy and Jin Niu is... smokin' ;>

Liberty's Edge

So is this one gonna cue off a 2-page discussion thread about cheesecake? ;)
Ere, ere, one last go-round afore they retire the old girl.

Grand Lodge

Lich-Loved wrote:
I have my copy and Jin Niu is... smokin' ;>

Gotta love those martial artists in high heels!


Heathansson wrote:

So is this one gonna cue off a 2-page discussion thread about cheesecake? ;)

Ere, ere, one last go-round afore they retire the old girl.

That's a brilliant idea for a Maxim-style special edition magazine - Dungeon Pin-ups.... there would be half-fiend nymphs, web-coated aranea, peek-a-boo clerics of Wee-Jas, pirates, Zargonites, nordic bad-girl wizards, nymph assassins, slender ambitious half-elven nobles, and acrobatic efreet monks - sexiest Monster Manual yet. Or maybe it's an ecology book.

;)
GGG


and buxom barmaids in the Bettie Page style!


Not to mention alluring succubi lolling on sheets made of human skin. (Cf. Dragon 306). Yikes. Maybe we should all be taking Steve Greer's advice on this one.


Peruhain of Brithondy wrote:
Not to mention alluring succubi lolling on sheets made of human skin. (Cf. Dragon 306). Yikes. Maybe we should all be taking Steve Greer's advice on this one.

There was a washroom in the Dread Pagoda.

;)
GGG


Who knew that efreeti girls could be so hawt? :p


Wish made during the playtest.

Yak folk Warrior Monk (warrior monk stats removed for space): "Jin Niu, I wish I were a hydra."

Party (in unison): "Oh, crap!"

More tales from the editing room floor coming soon....

;) GGG


Seriously, having threadjacked myself with my initial entry, there is a serious issue here.

Yak folk are really smart. And here's a couple with three wishes to play with.

Jin Niu, I wish our enemies were afflicted by Horrid Wilting. Jin Niu, I wish our enemies were hit by Chain Lightning.

Kind of over the top at this level.


Jin Niu, I wish there was a web enhancement that showed me all the stuff on the cutting room floor.

Well, what do you know there is such a web enhancement. Thanks, Jin Niu!

~GGG


Gurubabaramalamaswami wrote:
Kind of over the top at this level.

Click on my name and read the latter half of the bio....

GGG


Great Green God wrote:
Gurubabaramalamaswami wrote:
Kind of over the top at this level.

Click on my name and read the latter half of the bio....

GGG

Nice. So..what domains do your clerics have access to and what's your favored weapon?


Gurubabaramalamaswami wrote:
Nice. So..what domains do your clerics have access to and what's your favored weapon?

Piss and Vineger, and currently my favorite weapon is Jin Niu.

But let's actually talk about that horrid wilting thing. Yes, it is possible, but let's consider a few of the other options first. One it is possible that there isn't even a fight. Skilled liars might convince Jin Niu and her fellows that they are mere pilgrims in search of the restroom, or perhaps a bout or two with the most skilled combatant of the pagoda. Even if the insightful efreeti doesn't fall for for it (she's got a very decent Sense Motive check), the group is likely have a character who knows what an efreeti is and what they are capable of and have some way of slowing down or silencing the yak folk in the room (in my draft there were only two yak folk in the room though they were advanced with class levels). Another thing to consider is that by casting wish (which by my count should have a DC 20 save rather than 17 as listed - either way still makeable) she can't be full attacking (don't forget to add in the heat damage or quickened scorching ray). Sneaky characters even have the option of not walking into the room, making her a non-encounter. Let's not fight the big fiery woman okay?

Basically my thought is this, genies have this cool ability to grant wishes and for as long as I have been playing I have never once seen a module aside from Library of Last Resort* where an efreeti (normally CR 8) gets to use it in fight because for the most part they fight alone so as to avoid the question. As much as I love Library of Last Resort it sorta cheats a bit since by that level the party has access to wish themselves. Also the efreeti, Malhazar, seems to mostly grant them in defense late in the battle rather than early on the offense. Pretty much every party going through Pagoda at 10th level will have an "ohmygod did she just cast wish?!?" moment, the first time a yak guard makes one.

Even better the DM gets the option on how mean he or she wants to be. Against a vetran party of min-maxing power-lawyer twinks you could go all out if you wanted to and not feel even the slightest twinge of guilt.

Really, if the characters have blown their cover before now Jin Niu is only one of many horrible things they'll have to worry about. Should the characters alert the entire pagoda they might be looking at a EL 17+ encounter. This is not a dungeon that's going to be won by mere force.

-GGG


There is another evil hottie in this issue, featured in "Into the Maw."


A bit curious, G3, how you guys picked this and the other Chinese-sounding names. Jin Niu in Chinese could mean a few things--the first that sprang to mind was "golden ox," which would have made sense if she was a yak folk (maoniu ren?). But it could also be "golden twist" or "golden girl."


Peruhain of Brithondy wrote:
A bit curious, G3, how you guys picked this and the other Chinese-sounding names. Jin Niu in Chinese could mean a few things--the first that sprang to mind was "golden ox," which would have made sense if she was a yak folk (maoniu ren?). But it could also be "golden twist" or "golden girl."

I think Tom picked created Arghakot Annapuma's name from various place names on a map of Tibet. I think Pan'phar's name has a similar origin. I got most of the names used in the Dread Pagoda from variations on names from Dynasty Warriors Empires IV and V which of course is based on the Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Jin's name ("Golden Girl") came from this great name site. In fact the prisoner in Area 26, Onyeka, her name in my draft is Onyekachukkowu which is Igbo (a language spoken in Nigeria) for "Who is greater than god?"

The names of the lesser scrivners in area 9, whose lives are sucked away by their styluses are purely Greyhawk in origin. ;)

I feel it is important to put as much meaning into statblocks as possible. You can always tell a lot about my characters by their skill selection, languages, feats, attack modes, equipment, and names.

Hope you liked it,
GGG


Oh, and D'Khanti Po is an amalgam of Decanti(sp?) the pestilance demons from White Wolf's Montreal by Night, and P'o, or demon mind, that exists to satisfy its own base urges.

-GGG

Sovereign Court

What hottie is in "Into the Maw?"


S'Sharra, pg 62-63.


Heh. On the Wizards boards, they'd lock this thread in a heartbeat.

Paizo > Wizards once again.

Sovereign Court

S'Sharra, hmm. What is she? Can you rate her 1-10?(I dont have my issue yet.)(And yes, paizo boards>wizards boards.)

Liberty's Edge

S'sharra is pretty smokin'.

I can't say what she is; she might mess me up. She's pretty tuff.

She also said that she's waaaaaaaaay hotter than Jin Niu.


S'Sharra has probably the most bizarre pants I've ever seen. Not complaining at all, but they're kind of weird. Unsettling.

And why aren't (heterosexual) female gamers starting threads like this? Is there a notable lack of beefcake in our hobby? Would waxed barbarians bring more women into the game? Or are men just a lot more predictable?

Why must I spoil everyone's fun by bringing gender politics into things?


I just plodded out to my FLCS to pick up my copy and...my GOD. She is HAWT! I have a male efreeti NPC in my game, but once my players take a look at her, he's going to try to turn him into a cohort just for a trip to a bordello on the plane of elemental fire...

The Exchange

I dunno - I don't really find woman who are a bright, brick red that sexy. Now, pale and interesting, or lightly tanned, or a little freckley.....


Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
I dunno - I don't really find woman who are a bright, brick red that sexy. Now, pale and interesting, or lightly tanned, or a little freckley.....

So...what are you feelings on powder blue women? Pro or Con? Racing stripes optional.


Heathansson wrote:

S'sharra is pretty smokin'.

I can't say what she is; she might mess me up. She's pretty tuff.

She also said that she's waaaaaaaaay hotter than Jin Niu.

Yeah, but only because she can't seem to find an outfit that fits her properly. Still S'sharra can't grant your wishes....

GGG


James Keegan wrote:
Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
I dunno - I don't really find woman who are a bright, brick red that sexy. Now, pale and interesting, or lightly tanned, or a little freckley.....
So...what are you feelings on powder blue women? Pro or Con? Racing stripes optional.

Racing stripes are never optional. And as for red, every Warhammer 40k ork knows that red girls go faster.

GGG

Liberty's Edge

S'sshara said Jin Niu stuffs.


James Keegan wrote:

S'Sharra has probably the most bizarre pants I've ever seen. Not complaining at all, but they're kind of weird. Unsettling.

And why aren't (heterosexual) female gamers starting threads like this? Is there a notable lack of beefcake in our hobby? Would waxed barbarians bring more women into the game? Or are men just a lot more predictable?

Why must I spoil everyone's fun by bringing gender politics into things?

Beefcake doesn't sell as well as cheesecake, so we see less of it (as explained in numerous threads that complained about particular cheesecake images on the cover of dungeon/dragon magazine).

Liberty's Edge

James Keegan wrote:


And why aren't (heterosexual) female gamers starting threads like this? Is there a notable lack of beefcake in our hobby? Would waxed barbarians bring more women into the game? Or are men just a lot more predictable?

They need Fabio to model for an iconic.


Freehold DM wrote:
I just plodded out to my FLCS to pick up my copy and...my GOD. She is HAWT! I have a male efreeti NPC in my game, but once my players take a look at her, he's going to try to turn him into a cohort just for a trip to a bordello on the plane of elemental fire...

That ought to give the old Johnny Cash song a bit of a different twist!

. . . And it burns, burns, burns,
That ring of fire, that ring of fire!

;)


Heathansson wrote:
S'sshara said Jin Niu stuffs.

No, she's naturally Large, but she can get Huge with a moment's preperation.

;)
G3

Liberty's Edge

S'sshara says that Jin Niu dates a lot of Slaadi. Is that true?

Liberty's Edge

Hey, Paizomeisters!!! How 'bout a poll: who's hotter S'sshara or Jin Niu? S'sshara says that she (meaning herself) would win.


Heathansson wrote:
Hey, Paizomeisters!!! How 'bout a poll: who's hotter S'sshara or Jin Niu? S'sshara says that she (meaning herself) would win.

Should we really trust someone with a "C" in their alignment who is obviously thousands of years old and still wearing pigtails and the same outfit she wore in fifth grade? I think not. I'm surprised she isn't sucking on a lolly pop to hide her laugh lines. Besides S'sshara doesn't do inflict 1d6 points of heat damage when she touches you, so I think that settles who is the hottest.

If you can't handle how hot Jin Niu is, I suggest taking a cold shower.
GGG

PS and here I thought some one would pick out the homage to Tony Diterlizzi's classic Monstous Manual rendition of the rakshasa in the fez. Alas, it's all about the glossy red babes.

Sovereign Court Contributor

C'mon! Check out the picture on page 71. Belshamoth has bigger breasts than either of them.

Craig Shackleton
The Rambling Scribe
Looking over his shoulder to see how far over the line he just went.


Rambling Scribe wrote:

C'mon! Check out the picture on page 71. Belshamoth has bigger breasts than either of them.

Craig Shackleton
The Rambling Scribe
Looking over his shoulder to see how far over the line he just went.

And if you can get over the stench and general oilyness, he's definitely the more cuddley of the three. In that "I'm gonna snuggle the f@!& out of you until you die" sort of way.

Sovereign Court Contributor

James is just jealous because Belshomoth is sexier than his avatar.

Grand Lodge

Heathansson wrote:
They need Fabio to model for an iconic.

Too late - they've already done Heroes of horror.


Shroomy wrote:
There is another evil hottie in this issue, featured in "Into the Maw."

yup.. orgosh.. :D

err.. why do you guys stare at me? :D


Rambling Scribe wrote:
James is just jealous because Belshomoth is sexier than his avatar.

And it tears me up inside! ::sob::

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