Who could whup Conan?


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The Jade wrote:
Tensor wrote:
The Jade wrote:

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How to kill the Howard's Conan specifically? Simple, go back in time and kill Robbie before he ever wrote the thing. Duh.

The problem with going back into time to kill the parents of your enemy, is that for every bad guy that goes back in time a good guy goes back to stop the bad guy. An infinite regress is created. A regress that converges, mind you, and *our reality* is the result!
So... the rule for time the travel aided dispensing of justice is generally, "If you don't start nuttin it won't be nuttin'?"

According to the Argonauts, yes.

Right along side, 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you.'


Heathansson wrote:
Bill Lumberg tried to get Conan to work on a Saturday once.

Only once.

whimper


Conan the Barbarian wrote:

<Kills the Jade>

"Anyone else?"

Having never been bred

I can never be dead
Most annoying of songs
Trapped forever in head

You Cimerrian simian
My kingdom for cinnamon
Dash against pits
So that air can get in again

Oh the smell of you!


*holds up lighter*


Part of the trouble with the question of 'Who could whup Conan?' is, I suspect, that many of the warriors likely to be able to achieve the feat would much rather fight alongside Conan than against him.

Just a random thought there.


Charles Evans 25 wrote:

Part of the trouble with the question of 'Who could whup Conan?' is, I suspect, that many of the warriors likely to be able to achieve the feat would much rather fight alongside Conan than against him.

Just a random thought there.

I have to agree, Yes the smart ones do. This whole concept is contained within the Riddle of Steel.

This riddle begins with, "Which is stronger, flesh and blood, or steel?"

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Tensor wrote:

[Riddle of Steel.

This riddle begins with, "Which is stronger, flesh and blood, or steel?"

Steel is stronger but the the flesh wields the steel.

Blood coats the steel, and without the flesh the steel will eventually rust.

So the answer is neither, only together are they strong.

Spoiler:

So I just mentally whupped Conan ;>


Darkjoy wrote:


Steel is stronger but the the flesh wields the steel.
Blood coats the steel, and without the flesh the steel will eventually rust.

So the answer is neither, only together are they strong.

** spoiler omitted **

Someone called the police and social services on you, because that was just inhumane the way you whupped him, Darkjoy. I'll create a distraction while you leave through the back door.


Darkjoy wrote:
Tensor wrote:

[Riddle of Steel.

This riddle begins with, "Which is stronger, flesh and blood, or steel?"

Steel is stronger but the the flesh wields the steel.

Blood coats the steel, and without the flesh the steel will eventually rust.

So the answer is neither, only together are they strong.

** spoiler omitted **

WRONG !!!

You are not even 1/2 way to the answer.

ps. sorry Jade, but you looked good in action. :-)

Liberty's Edge

Superman.


does steel rust?

i didnt think steel rusted.

i didnt go through two thousand pages of posts, so i dont know if explosives have been mentioned.

a 155mm howitzer round can do some horific things to human flesh. ive seen some pretty nasty wounds from 60mm mortar rounds also.


donnald johnson wrote:

does steel rust?

i didnt think steel rusted.

i didnt go through two thousand pages of posts, so i dont know if explosives have been mentioned.

a 155mm howitzer round can do some horific things to human flesh. ive seen some pretty nasty wounds from 60mm mortar rounds also.

Anything less than 88mm rounds just causes an irritating rash to Conan.


The Jade wrote:
Darkjoy wrote:


Steel is stronger but the the flesh wields the steel.
Blood coats the steel, and without the flesh the steel will eventually rust.

So the answer is neither, only together are they strong.

** spoiler omitted **

Someone called the police and social services on you, because that was just inhumane the way you whupped him, Darkjoy. I'll create a distraction while you leave through the back door.

A little summoned bunny rabbit is not a distraction. I'll just chop its head off.

One rabbit stew comin' right up...

Silver Crusade

Jock itch could probably go a couple of rounds with him. How often does he wash that loincloth out anyway?


Bill Lumberg wrote:
donnald johnson wrote:

does steel rust?

i didnt think steel rusted.

i didnt go through two thousand pages of posts, so i dont know if explosives have been mentioned.

a 155mm howitzer round can do some horific things to human flesh. ive seen some pretty nasty wounds from 60mm mortar rounds also.

Anything less than 88mm rounds just causes an irritating rash to Conan.

interesting, because an 81mm mortar breaks up into some really small pieces, but a 60mm motar ends up in some big ass chunks.

i have never seen a modern 88mm round. im assuming that is the wwii german anti-tank, anti personnel round. which yes, only causes an irritating rash to modern armored vehicles. (except that m113, it would eat the lunch of a m113, of course, its not necessarily modern). now, the modern sabot round fired by the m1a2sep. i havent seen conan's reflex ac, but if he can get out of the way of a 1 inch, depleted uranium shank designed as a super armor penetrator, traveling at well over a mile a second, then i will hide from conan.

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Tensor wrote:
Darkjoy wrote:
Tensor wrote:

[Riddle of Steel.

This riddle begins with, "Which is stronger, flesh and blood, or steel?"

Steel is stronger but the the flesh wields the steel.

Blood coats the steel, and without the flesh the steel will eventually rust.

So the answer is neither, only together are they strong.

** spoiler omitted **

WRONG !!!

You are not even 1/2 way to the answer.

ps. sorry Jade, but you looked good in action. :-)

Well if it isn't the answer, then Crom will laugh and cast me out. If that happens, I am betting I will be seeing you again.

On the other hand, the more likely scenario is that Crom will laugh at you and cast you out, when this happens, and it will, don't forget to wave at the little red devil sitting next to Crom. That'll be me.


Ok. Much as I love y'all, I am NOT reading 16 pages of posts. So, if anyone suggested the following fellow, my regrets. But if I had to put down money, I'd put it on Wagner's Kain for taking Conan.

After that, maybe Achilles.


Love, I don't feel so good.

What is this that rises before me?

Figure in black.

Grand Lodge

Wiley Coyote could take Conan. Not because he is any good at fighting; however, just look at all the punishment he bounces back from. Even Conan won't be able to bring enough whup-ass to take out old Wiley, and he'd eventually just be worn down.


donnald johnson wrote:
Bill Lumberg wrote:
donnald johnson wrote:

does steel rust?

i didnt think steel rusted.

i didnt go through two thousand pages of posts, so i dont know if explosives have been mentioned.

a 155mm howitzer round can do some horific things to human flesh. ive seen some pretty nasty wounds from 60mm mortar rounds also.

Anything less than 88mm rounds just causes an irritating rash to Conan.

interesting, because an 81mm mortar breaks up into some really small pieces, but a 60mm motar ends up in some big ass chunks.

i have never seen a modern 88mm round. im assuming that is the wwii german anti-tank, anti personnel round. which yes, only causes an irritating rash to modern armored vehicles. (except that m113, it would eat the lunch of a m113, of course, its not necessarily modern). now, the modern sabot round fired by the m1a2sep. i havent seen conan's reflex ac, but if he can get out of the way of a 1 inch, depleted uranium shank designed as a super armor penetrator, traveling at well over a mile a second, then i will hide from conan.

If you had the opporunity to fire ordnance like that how can meer DnD (or anything) be fun by comparison?

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donnald johnson wrote:
Bill Lumberg wrote:
donnald johnson wrote:

does steel rust?

i didnt think steel rusted.

i didnt go through two thousand pages of posts, so i dont know if explosives have been mentioned.

a 155mm howitzer round can do some horific things to human flesh. ive seen some pretty nasty wounds from 60mm mortar rounds also.

Anything less than 88mm rounds just causes an irritating rash to Conan.

interesting, because an 81mm mortar breaks up into some really small pieces, but a 60mm motar ends up in some big ass chunks.

i have never seen a modern 88mm round. im assuming that is the wwii german anti-tank, anti personnel round. which yes, only causes an irritating rash to modern armored vehicles. (except that m113, it would eat the lunch of a m113, of course, its not necessarily modern). now, the modern sabot round fired by the m1a2sep. i havent seen conan's reflex ac, but if he can get out of the way of a 1 inch, depleted uranium shank designed as a super armor penetrator, traveling at well over a mile a second, then i will hide from conan.

Hide, then. Yes. Hide.

Crom!


dnd is much more fun than all that. when my character dies, i just crumple up the paper, throw it away. when i die, its game over.

the only place for conan to hide would be in a concrete bunker. thermal imaging looks through trees, grass, etc. then if he is in a concret bunker, then instead of sabot, you send heat. should still penetrate the bunker, but instead of just flying through, it would shoot a strem of molten metal into the bunker. then there are always the high explosive rounds. if you cant penetrate the bunker, then just smash it into little pieces.

conan vs. m1a2sep....i think m1 wins.


My money is on Purple Smurf *GNAP*

And the ball from Pong...

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donnald johnson wrote:


conan vs. m1a2sep....i think m1 wins.

The M1 is just a tool, the guy operating the M1 will defeat Conan if Conan let's him get to it.....and you know he won't.


I still say Ash from Pokemon, would tear Conan up.


Links:

What am I looking at?

Huh?


Tensor wrote:

Links:

What am I looking at?

Huh?

Weren't those just bee-zar. :)


This one is a little off topic.


Tensor wrote:


This one is a little off topic.

What a lovely tribute. Thanks for posting it.

Scarab Sages

Conan 2, as built by munchkins on the CharOp boards, would whup Conan at everything, as long as the DM says it is okay and they get to use all the official material they want.

Failing that, Halastar would whup Conan.

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Jal Dorak wrote:


Failing that, Halastar would whup Conan.

Not at arm rasslin.

Scarab Sages

Heathansson wrote:
Jal Dorak wrote:


Failing that, Halastar would whup Conan.

Not at arm rasslin.

He can't arm-wrestle if Halastar disintegrates his arms!

Liberty's Edge

that's cheatin.

Scarab Sages

Heathansson wrote:
that's cheatin.

Only if he gets caught.

Liberty's Edge

Crom will catch him when he petitions for entry into Valhalla. And laugh at him. And send him to hell.

Liberty's Edge

Crom will throw him into the pits of hell.
He will take Gaussian sum falling damage.


If Conan has not been whupped already, then he is the king of his universe and the intended pattern is clearly that Conan cannot be whupped. That becomes part of the point of Conan.

::Goes back to reading his late-seventies copy of Superman vs Muhammad Ali.::

Aw, man... unless someone decides to do something cute...

Scarab Sages

Heathansson wrote:

Crom will throw him into the pits of hell.

He will take Gaussian sum falling damage.

Halastar casts greater gaussian inversion and changes the sum into negative numbers, thus healing damage from the fall.


Jal Dorak wrote:


Halastar casts greater gaussian inversion and changes the sum into negative numbers, thus healing damage from the fall.

Do you realize that if you changed Halastar to Dalastar you'd have 'rat salad' backwards, which tastes just as digusting as having it forwards.

Liberty's Edge

That's not a spell. You just made that up.


The Jade wrote:
Jal Dorak wrote:


Halastar casts greater gaussian inversion and changes the sum into negative numbers, thus healing damage from the fall.
Do you realize that if you changed Halastar to Dalastar you'd have 'rat salad' backwards, which tastes just as digusting as having it forwards.

...'rat salad'?

Eruption! Im at a Los'fer Words without the Summer Song at Luke's Wall near the Cliffs Of Dover, mayhaps Dee and Several Species Of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave Grooving With A Pict can find Fluff and Escape From The Island of Transylvania!


drunken_nomad wrote:
The Jade wrote:
Jal Dorak wrote:


Halastar casts greater gaussian inversion and changes the sum into negative numbers, thus healing damage from the fall.
Do you realize that if you changed Halastar to Dalastar you'd have 'rat salad' backwards, which tastes just as digusting as having it forwards.

...'rat salad'?

Eruption! Im at a Los'fer Words without the Summer Song at Luke's Wall near the Cliffs Of Dover, mayhaps Dee and Several Species Of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave Grooving With A Pict can find Fluff and Escape From The Island of Transylvania!

A man who knows his Sabbath! :) I think Van Halen originally wanted to name themselves 'Rat Salad'. If they had, I don't think anyone would Jump.


Jal Dorak wrote:
Conan 2, as built by munchkins on the CharOp boards, would whup Conan at everything, as long as the DM says it is okay and they get to use all the official material they want.

Conan would smash any modern day DM.

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Jal Dorak wrote:


Failing that, Halastar would whup Conan.

Halastar is dead. Conan wins on a technicality.

Liberty's Edge

Heh.
When did Hal take a dirt nap?
I don't know all that FR stuff.

Liberty's Edge

Crom.

(Assuming of course this hasn't already been stated)

Scarab Sages

Heathansson wrote:
S.Baldrick wrote:
Heathansson wrote:


Capt. James T. Kirk.
James T. Kirk would need a phaser. Without the phaser, Conan would kick the crap out of Kirk.
Naah...Conan would be mad cos Kirk stole his girl. Then he'd charge Kirk, and Kirk would do that thing where he falls on his back and flips him over with his feet. Then Kirk would chop him in the neck, and that would be it.

They teach that move in Army Infantry hand-to-hand combat training - its called the 'monkey flip'. When the instructor asked us if we knew what a monkey flip was everyone just shook their head no - then he said 'you know, the Captain Kirk flip' and started with the Start Trek fight music, then EVERYBODY new it then including some south Koreans!

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Heathansson wrote:

Heh.

When did Hal take a dirt nap?
I don't know all that FR stuff.

I don't really keep up with it either, I'm not sure where its from, but I remember reading some people b*tching about it on the messagebaords about 6 months, a year back. Could be a 4e change maybe?

(I don't mean b*tching in a bad way. I'd b*tch about it too if I was a Realms fan probably)

Scarab Sages

Mayr wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
S.Baldrick wrote:
Heathansson wrote:


Capt. James T. Kirk.
James T. Kirk would need a phaser. Without the phaser, Conan would kick the crap out of Kirk.
Naah...Conan would be mad cos Kirk stole his girl. Then he'd charge Kirk, and Kirk would do that thing where he falls on his back and flips him over with his feet. Then Kirk would chop him in the neck, and that would be it.
They teach that move in Army Infantry hand-to-hand combat training - its called the 'monkey flip'. When the instructor asked us if we knew what a monkey flip was everyone just shook their head no - then he said 'you know, the Captain Kirk flip' and started with the Start Trek fight music, then EVERYBODY new it then including some south Koreans!

This judo throw is also called the Tomoe Nage. or "circle throw" for those of you interested.

Scarab Sages

Mothman wrote:
Heathansson wrote:

Heh.

When did Hal take a dirt nap?
I don't know all that FR stuff.

I don't really keep up with it either, I'm not sure where its from, but I remember reading some people b*tching about it on the messagebaords about 6 months, a year back. Could be a 4e change maybe?

(I don't mean b*tching in a bad way. I'd b*tch about it too if I was a Realms fan probably)

Not to be a spoiler, but this is technically true.

Halastar forsaw the spellplague and attempted to stop it, but something went wrong with his ritual and his soul was blown into a million pieces and embedded into various spellcasters around Faerun. In my Faerun, even if this happened, I am allowing the PCs to reverse the tragedy and save Halastar.

You can read about it in the Expedition to Undermountain (in the preface no less), or maybe ask Sean K Reynolds sometime, since he wrote the adventure. The short of it is, apparently Wizards pushed for it as a set-up for the 4th Edition changes.

By the way, I don't blame Sean for killing my favorite fantasy character besides Boromir. Unless of course, it was his idea! ;)

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