Orb spells


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Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

I heard that there was a Dragon magazine with errata for the Orb spells - changing the school from conjuration to evocation. Could someone tell me what issue this was in?
Thanks.


if there were errata for the ORB spells it would be released by WotC on thier website, it would be doubtful that they would release it through dragon magazine...

Since the orb spells were just reprinted in the Spell Compendium this month with thier school intact it is doubtful that errat for them would have been previously released in a dragon magazine and then not taken into account in the new book. So I expect that you heard wrong... (now I can fully see an article that suggested changing them to evocation and adding SR:yes to them, my only doubt would be that article being "eratta").


Well, here's the think with that. The Spell Compendium has all of the orb spells listed as as Conjuration, including the orb of force.

However, the issue of Dragon with the Force Missile Mage (I forget the issue), had reprinted the orb of force (with the same level and description) as an Evocation spell. This "errata" was maintained in the Dragon Comependium where the orb of force was reprinted, once again, as an Evocation spell.

So, two "official" sources list the orb of force as two different schools. Take your pick, I guess. ;)

Liberty's Edge

I don't know about anything official, but I don't allow the orb spells in my game the way they're written.

If they're conjuration, I can see them bypassing DR, but I can't see someone conjuring force. I really find they're problematic with conjuration specialists (taking evocation as a barred school). They have no real disadvantage over an evoker.

In any case, I have no problem having this discussion with my players. If you're concerned about them being too powerful, you don't have to allow them in your game.


I am raising this thread from the dead because I am pondering about the Orb spells from Spell Compendium...

One of my players asked me if they were available to pick.
I am running D&D 3.X, not Pathfinder, by the way.
My first response was to mention the changes I made on the Orb spells a while ago:
- Evocation instead of Conjuration
- d6s damage instead of d8s, for the lesser versions
- Subject to spell resistance

But as my player was quite disappointed and reconsidered them, I am wondering if these changes are not too much.

Also I would like what you folks are thinking, how you are handling these spells.
So what do you think?


Id leave the damage at d8/2 levels as written. other than that, I agree!

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Seldriss wrote:

But as my player was quite disappointed and reconsidered them, I am wondering if these changes are not too much.

Also I would like what you folks are thinking, how you are handling these spells.
So what do you think?

Your player may be disappointed not because you went too far, but because he knows just how broken these spells were originally, and wants them just as they were. :)

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