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It would work for level 1. I'm now investigating the best way to get bigger to fight the giants...
Druid works and gives some support. But you can only do elementals later. And I can only go to large at lvl 10.

There really is no other way to really do it that I can find and that saddens me.

I don't mean the armor you are wearing before you polymorph. The stuff you are wearing 100% gets absorbed. I meant putting on armor after shifting. Also like dragging a massive weapon around to use after shifting.

I'm still trying to find the best class to pull off what I want.

Hmmmmm

I like the idea of the new action economy.

Considering your taste in alternate rules would you want to try out the inherent bonus system from unchained?

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My ideas so far:

Melee Druid focused on animal forms
Melee Druid focused on elemental forms
Shifter
Kinetic Knight
Sanguine angel (this I would need to speak to you about reflavouring, and would be a better switch hitter than front line tank)
Paladin (I am playing a paladin in a very long standing game and think I might get bored though)
Warpriest
Monk

What other abusive AC classes am I missing?

One idea that I keep getting drawn back to is turning into an earth elemental.
I love the idea there, turning into an earth elemental in the mountains, fighting giants... Just seems like fun.
However I would want to do this from first level and the only way I can think of to do that would be an elemental shifter which can never get larger than medium, and a synthesis summoner, which is almost universally banned.

If anyone has other ideas on how to be a martial that turns into an earth elemental I would love to hear it.

I dont really even care for the tremor sense or stuff at the start. I just want to be an elemental :P.
However this does depend on whether our illustrious GM rules Earth Elementals as being able to wield weapons and wear armor. :P

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The scene that keeps coming to mind is the rock giant fight in the misty mountains in the fellowship of the ring.
Turning into a large or larger elemental and fighting the giants just strikes me as truly badass.

I am enjoying the vibe of the Kinetecist quite a lot.
There are some great options for incredibly tanky earth kinetecists with some of the archetypes.

I generally seem to play the tanky characters so I would gladly fill that roll.

That is if you would have me

"I am pretty spent, it takes me a while to gather the power to do that now..." Trytton says as he stretches. He doesn't wait though and dives overboard to try catch up to the Wormwood.
What is the gap like? and what speed are they sailing?

Trytton, having spent the last while with water and lightning swirling around him lets loose a blast.
Attack, Empower, Composite, Burn Taken 0, Total Burn 7:: 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (19) + 13 = 328d6 + 8 + 5 + 1 + 4 ⇒ (1, 4, 3, 1, 3, 4, 1, 5) + 8 + 5 + 1 + 4 = 40
Full gather power and a bit of this turn for 3 reduction.
Total 60 Damage, 40+20.

And here I didn't even notice the change -_-

Add 13 damage from previous empower. that was not calculated in,
whoops

Trytton swims a bit further below the surface and fires another blast at the elemental.
Attack, Water Simple, Empower, 1 Gather Power, Burn 0, Total 7: 1d20 + 6 + 4 + 2 + 2 ⇒ (4) + 6 + 4 + 2 + 2 = 184d6 + 4 + 6 + 1 + 4 ⇒ (1, 5, 1, 6) + 4 + 6 + 1 + 4 = 28
14 Empower, total 42
Trytton has lost 26 HP and has taken 56 NL. He has 15 HP left

"Ha! Nice try!" Trytton says as he goes flying overboard into the drink. The water swirls around him as he blasts again
Attack, Water Simple, Empower, 1 Gather Power, Butrn 0, Total 7: 1d20 + 6 + 4 + 2 + 2 ⇒ (11) + 6 + 4 + 2 + 2 = 254d6 + 4 + 6 + 1 + 4 ⇒ (3, 4, 3, 1) + 4 + 6 + 1 + 4 = 26

Water flows up the stairs out of the hold, and a thin film flows up the sides of the ship and starts to spin in the air around Trytton.
Attack, Water Simple, Empower, 1 Gather Power, Butrn 0, Total 7: 1d20 + 6 + 4 + 2 + 2 ⇒ (11) + 6 + 4 + 2 + 2 = 254d6 + 4 + 6 + 1 + 4 ⇒ (4, 2, 2, 2) + 4 + 6 + 1 + 4 = 25
Empower = 12, Total = 37

Trytton Chases after the ship.
Climb: 1d20 ⇒ 16
Climb: 1d20 ⇒ 6
Climb: 1d20 ⇒ 19
It takes him a while but he eventually makes his way back on board

Trytton stays put again, lightning arcing through the water around him.
Attack, Empower, Composite, Burn Taken 2, Total Burn 7: 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (12) + 13 = 258d6 + 8 + 5 + 1 + 4 ⇒ (5, 3, 4, 3, 1, 4, 4, 4) + 8 + 5 + 1 + 4 = 46 Plus 23 for empower, Total 69, Total so far 220

Trytton stays put, as lightning starts to arc around him. He releases another blast at the turtle.
Attack, Empower, Extended Range, Composite, Burn Taken 2, Total Burn 5: 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (18) + 13 = 318d6 + 8 + 5 + 1 + 4 ⇒ (2, 5, 4, 6, 1, 6, 1, 3) + 8 + 5 + 1 + 4 = 46 Plus 23 for empower, Total 69, Total so far 151

Trytton is overboard after Besmara. His legs turn into a tail as he approaches the turtle and throws a blast of water laced with lightning at it.
Attack, Empower, Extended Range, Composite, Burn Taken 3, Total Burn 3: 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (12) + 13 = 258d6 + 8 + 5 + 1 + 4 ⇒ (2, 4, 4, 6, 6, 6, 4, 5) + 8 + 5 + 1 + 4 = 55 Plus 27 for empower, Total 82, Total so far 82

It would help to be at an actual table. I think a huge amount of rewrite would be needed unfortunately.

I on the other hand love the campaign downtime/building system of kingmaker/ultimate campaign, that I convinced Foxy to let us use it in our Shattered Star game.

I agree that the systems here could be better fleshed out. Like the grog ration will literally kill everyone on board at the start. The pc's might be able to make a way around it but the crew actually drink it. They would die. All of them.

There is a "mob" type template in one of the books that is basically a human sized swarm. Split the crew into these mobs and then give a mob to each PC

Gopher quests, so many gopher quests. The module basically forces us to sail back and forth over the shackles. If you don't feel like doing what Mrs Lady Captain whatshername asks you too, the story can't progress at all.

The AP is written with a very very limited set of options as to how you can interact with it. At some cases only providing singular options and at others literally making the story progress a specefic way with literally no input from the players

What does who mean with what?

Having spent some time looking at the actual hoops with Foxy I will say that this is by far the most egregious AP I have looked at in terms of the way it is handled.

They took pirates and made it BORING!?! How?

I do love the idea of Noonan just sitting in the meeting room for an age, as Lito and Tessa basically ignore/forget he is there and leave to her private chambers

None of the pcgen exports give a good loot list. At least ones I could find

We dont. I did it in pcgen, I can do spreadsheet but that will have to happen tomorrow

39531.9 gp

I will try and get the quartermaster sheet updated tomorrow.
Full day of work and then birthday celebrations this evening

Fort: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (16) + 12 = 28
Fort: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (10) + 12 = 22
Nature: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (17) + 9 = 26

"What Lito was trying to say, is that these things are poisonous and obviously shriek." He says as he gather power and blasts it with water.
Attack: 1d20 + 5 + 4 + 2 + 1 ⇒ (9) + 5 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 214d6 + 4 + 6 + 1 + 4 ⇒ (6, 6, 4, 6) + 4 + 6 + 1 + 4 = 37
37*1.5=55

"Someone might want some of this stuff." Trytton shouts into the hall as he makes his way to the next door.
Damage: 4d6 + 4 + 5 + 1 + 4 ⇒ (6, 3, 3, 5) + 4 + 5 + 1 + 4 = 31
31*1.5=46

"It's trapped." Trytton says a few minutes later making his way out of the room. He then repeats the procedure on the next door c18
Damage: 4d6 + 4 + 5 + 1 + 4 ⇒ (5, 5, 6, 4) + 4 + 5 + 1 + 4 = 34
34*1.5=51

Trytton moves in and starts a search

"So the building is trying to kill us too then?" Trytton says as he steps out onto the landing.
He steps back into the room, about 30ft from the door oposite and starts to swirl water around himself and proceeds launches it at the door.
Damage: 4d6 + 4 + 5 + 1 + 4 ⇒ (3, 2, 3, 6) + 4 + 5 + 1 + 4 = 28
Total damage = 28*1.5 = 42
Full gather power and empowered blast

But she can't turn into a giant tentacle monster alla the kraken

But you give up wildshape!

Trytton continues his habit of carefully searching wherever they go, as he finds things he lays them out on the table, with the things pulled from the body.
"I don't see anything else here." He says as he makes way to the door, opening it

Trytton eventually crawls back up the chute. He is very certainly worse for wear.

I think that might be slightly too much :p

The druid can do both which can be cool

The biggest issue is my area based blasts only come on later as I picked water/air. Had I gone fire I could have gone for area from level one.
I will go through the list and pull out all my options soon so you can see what I mean

Oh yeah, blasting wizard wins, no question. I am just saying the druid certainly is not bad either, and can do some other fun stuff

They dont blast but they have some pretty awesome damage abilities anyway.

1st: Entangle (it does damage, not many choices here)
2nd: Tar Ball, Stone Call (Low dmg, but no save or SR)
3rd: Call Lightning( low DMG, but consistent)
4th: Ball Lightning, Geyser, OBSIDIAN FLOW
5th: Baleful Polymorph(not blasty, but EXTREMELY USEFUL), Call lightning Storm, Wind Blades, Wall of Thorns(+plant growth for great effect)
6th: Tar Pool
7th: Sunbeam
8th: Finger of Death, Stormbolts, reverse gravity (Falling Damage), Earthquake (see spell for when this will actually do damage)

They are more for control than damage.
Flaming sphere is also pretty good

You will never do the most damage, but you can absolutely control the flow of battle.

For blasting you kinda can't beat sorc/wizard though

I would like to make a suggestion. If you want to continue with Estelle, but feel we could do with a different class, perhaps the raise dead has some unintended side effects, giving you some magical ability/altering the way you see the world and hence your fighting style.

That is a nice fluff reason to play Estelle but get a new class.
I am going to repeat my suggestion of a druid. You can still bash peoples heads in, but get a bunch of other cool stuff for control and magic. We are also very nature themed in terms of the sea so it fits relatively well.

"If you lot don't mind I need to get clean, and get some sleep." Trytton says, "So how the hell do we get out of this basement?"

A druid could be seriously fun. You could easily build to be a competent fighter as well as offer significant support and magic

Lightning begins to spark around Trytton and a bolt of lightning strikes out at the alchemist
Energy Blast from air, and gather power for empower
attack against touch: 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (6) + 14 = 204d6 + 1 + 6 + 3 ⇒ (3, 2, 1, 2) + 1 + 6 + 3 = 18
Total damage is 18+9=27, and I believe will bypass DR

Trytton throws a ball of stinking water at the alchemist
If there is a miss chance: 1d100 ⇒ 27

Fort: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (8) + 11 = 19
Swimmy Swim at 60ft move speed with "running"

Trytton drops down into the sewer Acro: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (14) + 8 = 22
He dusts himself off, takes a deep breath, and dives into the sewer and starts swimming. and prepares to chase

Trytton will run and wait to see if the others need help once they have cleared the bottom

Trytton swirls water and lightning around him for a few more moments before blasting the beast. I think thats a full round of gather power, standard from prev and move this turn

Attack: 1d20 + 9 + 3 + 1 + 2 + 1 ⇒ (14) + 9 + 3 + 1 + 2 + 1 = 308d6 + 8 + 5 + 6 + 1 + 2 + 1 ⇒ (4, 1, 3, 1, 5, 4, 5, 5) + 8 + 5 + 6 + 1 + 2 + 1 = 51

Turn order?

Trytton runs up the stairs and stands watching through the door as lightning begins to swirl around him as water follows him up the stairs.

3 burn, 21 NL HP, +3 attack, +6 damage, + 2 con, + 2 dex