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I have absolutely not one good thing to say about 4e or WotC...


Why don't some of you stop by the ICE website and check out Rolemaster and HARP...
There is a "lite" version of HARP for free ...


I have fun in many ways...some legal, some not.

However, playing 4e is NOT one of the ways I have fun...

4e...meh...


Whats everybody talking about..?

4E?

..MEH....


To be even more fair, I assume, he is so blinded by his loathing of 4E that he is having difficulty distinguishing between attacking 4E and attacking random people who happen to play 4E.

maybe so...


Scott Betts wrote:
DoppleGangster wrote:
Meh...
I realize you don't like 4th Edition, DoppleGangster. In fact, most of your recent posts seem to focus on nothing but your dislike for 4th Edition. But please keep that to threads where it is appropriate. I'm not interested in hearing you rag on a game system here. This is to talk about a conversion process and offer constructive advice and comments.

OK...Fair enough..


OMG people... get a life.


Taliesin Hoyle wrote:

4E:

Rules make the world hard to visualise as a breathing, living entity.
The game worlds are made of small points of light, unaware of a larger context, which makes the game easier to pick up.
Creatures and characters follow different rules, and monsters statistics are solely there to illustrate the three things it can do in combat. There is no ecology, or need for one.
Characters have limits on them that exist solely as a mechanical handicap for game balance, viz. only a second tier, level 10+ character can use a ring.
4E limits choice to help new players learn the game. It is an attempt to recapture the success of the old red box days, when anyone could learn to play the game in an afternoon or so.
4E incorporates elements that make it more like a computer game, and less of a literary endeavor.

Pathfinder:
Pathfinder is developed to make widely divergent playstyles possible on one world, (and some planets) Realism is a focus, and the game is made for people who view story as primary, and rules as a malleable vehicle to help resolve arguments.
Golarion is a world that is linked together...

And my feelings also...


Pax Veritas wrote:

*Looks like they missed a few things... jotted down here to make a point of seeing what I would call poor quality:* (This is a good illustration of how a company can be large but careless with a product.)

Target DCs (DMG 42)
Level E Easy DC Moderate DC Hard DC
1st–3rd 5 10 15
4th–6th 7 12 17
7th–9th 8 14 19
10th–12th 10 16 21
13th–15th 11 18 23
16th–18th 13 20 25
19th–21st 14 22 27
22nd–24th 16 24 29
25th–27th 17 26 31
28th–30th 19 28 33

Monster Manual
Updated 7/2/08
Update version 2
Effect [Revision]
Monster Manual, page 7
Replace the second sentence of the third paragraph with the following:
“Resistance doesn’t reduce damage unless the target has resistance to each
type of damage from the attack, and then only the weakest of the resistances
applies.”
Angel of Battle [Revision]
Monster Manual, page 14
Replace “HP 296” with “HP 148” and “Bloodied 148” with “Bloodied 74.”
Cave Bear [Revision]
Monster Manual, page 29
Replace the claw damage: “1d8 + 5 damage” with “2d8 + 5 damage.”
Replace the cave bear frenzy damage: “1d8 + 5 damage” with “2d8 + 5 damage.”
Eye of Flame [Revision]
Monster Manual, page 32
Replace “HP 240” with “HP 204.”
Evistro [Revision]
Monster Manual, page 54
Replace the claws damage: “1d8 + 5 damage” with “1d12 + 5 damage.”
Imp [Addition]
Monster Manual, page 63
Add “Reach 0” to both of the creature’s attacks.
Pseudodragon [Revision]
Monster Manual, page 91
Replace “Tiny” with “Small” for the creature’s size.
Drow Warrior [Revision]
Monster Manual, page 94
Replace the rapier attack’s “(X2)” with “and the drow warrior makes a secondary
attack against the same target. Secondary Attack: +13 vs. Fortitude; see drow
poison for the effect.”
Efreet Karadjin [Revision]
Monster Manual, page 100
Replace the attack bonus of scimitar of horrendous flame: “+27” with “+35.”
Death Giant [Revision]
Monster Manual, page 120
Replace the greataxe damage: “2d6 + 9 damage” with “4d6 + 9 damage.”
Hill Giant [Revision]
Monster Manual, page 121
Replace...

I love it!


Seeing as how everything else is being converted and how closely a certain Presidential candidate resembles 4E, the great shining hope of the masses that can do no wrong and will lead the world to happiness, anyone have any ideas on the conversion?


Meh...


Tharen the Damned wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Elizabeth Cougill wrote:
Snorter wrote:
You can count on MY steel!
and my bow?
And mine axe!
And my...sharpened pencil*!

And my.... my... ummm...hmmmm.... let me see...


Well, I know who won't be...


crosswiredmind wrote:


Races and classes are like plaque buildup - you can only take so much before you are forced to floss.

D&D has always suffered from bloat. The bigger the bloat the more need their will be to split the core into many many books.

Quoted For Truth.

Best believe that WotC approached 4e first with "How can we maximize profits?" not "What do the players really need?"

The rest is history...

*DoppleGangster puts on his Medallion of Proof against Insults and Opposite Opinions*


Phasics wrote:

just to be clear is the OP talking about Caster Level in terms of numerical and DC or full caster progression ?

e.g. from another post

19fighter/1wiz

I have no issue with this char casting magic missle as at 10th level mage however is known spells and spells per day should be that of a 1st level wiz.

Ugh!

I wouldn't do that! Seems way overboard to me...


Dragonlance is the one I remember with the most fondness...


Well, if it makes you guys feel any better (which I doubt)...

WotC didn't just destroy FR... they killed D&D as well...


Tensor wrote:

I copied this from the YouTube thread:

" Dungeons and Dragons game TV commercial early 1980s ".

There are some seriously funny videos linked to that one! I had no idea...


Cool!
Thanks...I got it!

Any more cool free stuff around???


We used a flat bonus of 6 hit points at first level... on top of maximum hp according to HD at level 1.
We figured that Con score bonus would be too much and adjustment by race would tend to make people play certain races over others...


Free?!?!?

Where can I get the PDF?!?!?!?


Wow...
Looks very cool!
And no, I just started getting into Paizo stuff...
I see I am going to have to get a few items!!

Thanks everyone!


Crimson Jester wrote:


He didn't say it was dead just all but dead.

Wow!

OK...sorry...
Sheesh...
No offense intended...


Excellent!
Many thanks!!!


Dualwolf wrote:

Define "Anything" ?

In otherwords how much dyu know about it at the moment?

http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

httpPage://heroesofgolarion.pbwiki.com/

Maybe these two links can start you off a bit?

I only know it is the campaign world for Pathfinder...

I would like to see a map, or part of one...

Thanks for the links!


Historical board wargames are not dead! But they are not nearly as popular...
There are a lot of websites that still offer board wargames for sale, and even more that offer printable games... and there are companies out there still producing them!
consimworld and webgrognards are 2 nice wargame websites with links to just about everywhere else...

Excuse me... I love board wargames and have a grand collection! Actually played them before getting into RPG's...


Where might I find more info? I can't seem to find anything...

Thanks!


Jal Dorak wrote:


To touch on Dopplegangsters recent post, parenting is the root problem - lazy parenting force-fed technology by an consumer-driven society. Video games aren't the problem, the parents who give their kids video games are the problem.

OMG...

You agreed with me??

*DoppleGangster checks for falling sky*

EDIT: I am being funny... or trying anyway...


Jal Dorak wrote:

Apparently.

EDIT: Done fighting the troll. They just regenerate anyway.

So you resort to name calling? How am I being a Troll? By responding to your flaming and baiting?

So, a Troll is anyone who would defend themselves and have an opinion different from yours?... or who uses words when you don't feel they should be used???

What in the hell is wrong with you guys?
Obama doing bad in the polls?


doppelganger wrote:
DoppleGangster wrote:


OK, you suggested I have a problem with anger. I suggest to you that I do not.
He does not suffer from an anger problem. He enjoys every minute of it!

See?

Even this agrees I have no anger problem!
Oh, and I am enjoying myself... aren't you guys?


Jal Dorak wrote:


It is not out of bounds to suggest to someone they might have a problem with anger, just as it is not to approach an alcoholic.

And, since you don't seem to understand hate: it means the most extreme form of aversion to something, it is a strong emotion that should be reserved for strong circumstances. If you truly feel hate for a game, that could be a problem.

OK, you suggested I have a problem with anger. I suggest to you that I do not. I further suggest you cease the back-room psychology.

OH, I understand hate perfectly! As a matter of fact, I like your definition better!
Yes, it is a problem... the most horrible D&D version ever created!

If you truly believe you can psycho-analyze and diagnose anger problems via the internet... well, that could be a problem.

And just because you save words for certain circumstances, I am under no obligation to do so.


doppelganger wrote:
DoppleGangster wrote:


Hate is a word like any other... why does it bother you?

You do realize that different words have different meanings, right? Are you really saying that all words are the same?

DoppleGangster seems to think that here on Marklar, all words are marklar! Hey Marklar! Those marklars are marklar.

Of course I realize that!

But how many different meanings does hate have? When I say hate, I mean I very strongly dislike something.
What do you mean when you say it?

Fail... try again.

Would you not be so frightened had I said "I very strongly dislike 4e"?
Well too bad, I am lazy and "hate" is only 4 letters...


May I dare to say...
Perhaps parenting is the root cause... well, the lack of rather...


The Jade wrote:

Why thank you, sir... er, madam... I mean, si-- Hey, Cut That OUT!

LOLOLOL

Dude you are too much!


Jal Dorak wrote:

The problem here doesn't really seem to be these boards, the 4th Edition supporters, or Paizo. It seems to me you have a problem with anger.

That much directed hatred at something is not healthy. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but the fact that you would rather just state which things you hate (which is a very strong word) means that you will provoke the ire of people who feel the need to defend themselves against such hatred. The problem is you don't have a fully-formed opinion, you have a feeling, and you don't support it with arguments. Granted, you are allowed to function this way on the boards, but many people here don't agree with that method. These boards are a pretty intelligent place.

For example, if I say "I HATE PENS! PEOPLE WHO USE PENS IN RPGS ARE DUMB!"
I am expressing an opinion, but based on nothing and backed by strong feelings.
Now, if I say "Pens make it...

I really don't think you have any business or ability diagnosing mental health problems of people on the internet having never met them and getting your info from what they post.

Are you serious?
Hate is a word like any other... why does it bother you?
Yes, I have a fully informed and well-functioning opinion, you don't think so because I have never given it to you...along with my arguments.
I don't feel I really need to because I have seen the same battles time after time already...

So, in conclusion, I wouldn't practice psychology or any other "ology" if I were you.


Trent Slabaugh wrote:


This brings up a whole different problem with a segment of the American population. I say American, because I can't speak intelligently about how British, German, etc. people are raising their kids.

Instant gratification has consumed our culture and unfortunately I don't see this getting a whole lot better. We have to have our entertainment right now and playing RPGs isnt a form of instant gratification.
Q- "But I want to be able to be like Legolas?"
A- "Ok.. well you'll need these four feats and this special ability. So you should be able to do that around 10th level"

I agree 100%.

But... who or what do you believe is to blame?
Or, who or what should carry the MOST blame?
And, better yet, What can we do to mitigate it?

I believe that "instant gratification syndrome" (along with some other things that I shall not go into because it is political and we can start a new thread about it some other time) will help bring this country(USA) down...


The Jade wrote:


I swear by all that is filled with holes that I don't think dopplegangers are inferior to any other race (except for the 100m dash, because that one just rocks)

Again, I applaud you!


The Jade wrote:

You shifters do all kind of look alike.

I must applaud your wittiness sir! It is a pleasure to read your posts.


The Jade wrote:
DoppleGangster wrote:
Pax Veritas wrote:

Another generally accepted rule on these messageboards: Try not to be a dick.

Doppleganger, how do you think you're doing on that one right now?

Honestly?

I am doing very well at being a dick...:(

Not that I want to be...

Nothing a sip of the ol' DoppleSchnappster can't cure.

::offers a glass::

I once knew this shapeshifter with an enormous... well, we used to call him Doppledangler.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

*breath*

LOLOLOLOLOL)OLOLOLOOLLOLOLOLOL


Pax Veritas wrote:

Another generally accepted rule on these messageboards: Try not to be a dick.

Doppleganger, how do you think you're doing on that one right now?

Honestly?

I am doing very well at being a dick...:(

Not that I want to be...

Oh, and that's DoppleGangster...


Pax Veritas wrote:
Dopplegangster wrote:
...when they regurgitate WotC's propaganda...

Is part of this that you feel like there's negative spin coming from WotC? Is part of what makes you feel terrible a sense that those who follow the 4e path are like scabs who walk through a picket line?

Yes of course WotC is saying their game is the best ever! But in reality, I feel it is nothing like any of the editions that came before- mechanically and in feeling.

No. Those that follow the 4e path do so for different reasons... and not all follow the path so blindly.

See, I can be very civil and engaging when I am shown even a little respect or acknowledgment.


Pax Veritas wrote:
Dopplegangster wrote:

Oh!

Now you want to belittle us zoovoyeurs and associate us with ka-ka Land!
Well I never!
And I am sure the Ka-Ka Landers will be contacting their attorneys to begin legal action against you for denying them their Civil Rights!!

You just wait until I tell Uncle Obama about this outrage!!!!!

Oh, well. I agree this thread has turned dumb. Dopp - sorry you choose not to discuss.

Well thats it!!!!

Now you are calling people dumb?!?!?!?!?!

WHY ISN'T THAT POST BEING DELETED?!?!?!?!
THESE PEOPLE CAN GET AWAY WITH SAYING THE THINGS THEY DO, BUT I CAN"'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT 4E?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

WHERE IS THE MODERATION NOW??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


Rockheimr wrote:
DoppleGangster wrote:
The Jade wrote:
Trey wrote:
Cheese wrote:
I like chocolate milk!
Indeed.
Chocolate milk is an anagram for 'look, camel itch!' and that's just zoovoyeursadism. I can't be a part of this.

Well, I am a zoovoyeur and I am offended that you associate it with sadism. You are discriminating against me as well as associating me and my fellow zoovoyeurs with a behavior(sadism) that we don't share!

You should be ashamed!
Didn't Obama teach you nothing?!?!?
You must accept us all!!!!!

But really, can I get this post deleted because it is discriminatory against zoovoyeurs and hurts their little feelings....

Uhh ... this thread's spinning pretty rapidly out into ka-ka-land ain't it? ;-)

Oh!

Now you want to belittle us zoovoyeurs and associate us with ka-ka Land!
Well I never!
And I am sure the Ka-Ka Landers will be contacting their attorneys to begin legal action against you for denying them their Civil Rights!!

You just wait until I tell Uncle Obama about this outrage!!!!!


doppelganger wrote:
DoppleGangster wrote:

OK

As far as I know, I am allowed to hate what I want to for whatever reasons I want to... no matter public or majority opinion...

You are. You are just not allowed to post about it on this board. It is a privately owned company asset, it is not a public space or assembly. If you are alluding to first amendment rights in America, they do not allow you to do or any whatever you want to do or say on private property. Paizo is completely within its rights to forbid certain comments or behaviors from being posted on its messageboard.

Oh, where I come from, thats called censorship.

Sorta like "If we don't play my way, I shall take my messageboard and go home"

It was ridiculous when I was 12 and it is ridiculous now.
Careful what you ask for, you are not guaranteed to get only what you want...
So why is it on the internet where anyone may access it, if it is privately owned and not for public assembly or space?
What in the hell have we all been doing then?!?!?!?


The Jade wrote:
Trey wrote:
Cheese wrote:
I like chocolate milk!
Indeed.
Chocolate milk is an anagram for 'look, camel itch!' and that's just zoovoyeursadism. I can't be a part of this.

Well, I am a zoovoyeur and I am offended that you associate it with sadism. You are discriminating against me as well as associating me and my fellow zoovoyeurs with a behavior(sadism) that we don't share!

You should be ashamed!
Didn't Obama teach you nothing?!?!?
You must accept us all!!!!!

But really, can I get this post deleted because it is discriminatory against zoovoyeurs and hurts their little feelings....


Yes.
Because of that and computers.


Cheese wrote:
I like chocolate milk!

Well I don't like it! Your post should be deleted because I do not like chocolate milk and what you said hurts my feelings.

Wah....


OK...
I never said that people shouldn't play what they like, I never said people who play 4e are stupid...
Play whatever makes you stand straighter...

I do not like 4e. I do not like WotC.
I do like stating my opinion and position... even when it crosses others' opinions and/or positions.

As far as I know, I am allowed to hate what I want to for whatever reasons I want to... no matter public or majority opinion...

Look, this whole 4e debacle has rubbed me the wrong way from day one... rubbed me 'till I am bleeding and sore. I just have to combat the blind, Obama-like followers of that failure of a RPG know as 4E when they regurgitate WotC's propaganda...

If you don't like me or what I have to say... guess what?...
You are not required to!!! Feel free to have a differing opinion!
Just don't tell me I am wrong for having mine.

Why shouldn't someone not be allowed to "bash" something they do not like?
Since I abhor 4e, anytime someone states something positive about it, I should be allowed to have it deleted...
Right? You have to be fair...

Ridiculous, right?


Well...

Whatever.

Anyway, I still hate 4e, think it is the worse thing I have ever seen passed off as a RPG and have absolutely nothing good to say about it or WotC.
Considering the way WotC treated people on their forum, I thought perhaps things would be different here... I am in error I see.

Political correctness needs to go the way of the dinosaur... it is starting to affect my health...


DoppleGangster... and maybe TimDog...

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