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Aiden2018 wrote:MerlinCross wrote:
That aside, I know people want Ki-less Monks for..., flavor or mechanics reasons but what do you DO as a monk if you don't have your Not magic but totally magic powers?
For me is mostly about flavor. I personally like mystical monks as much as I like mortal/brawler monks. I just don't like the idea of not being able to choose the latter.
As for what you do without mystic powers? ...Well, I would hope you do what comes natural and punch bears in their stupid faces. From what I hear they are still very viable as combatants.
And yet at least from what I saw of the playtest, Monk is still very much a trained, drilled, and schooled Unarmed combatant. Put a different way, I can't flavorly make the Brawler I have now(Washed up, half drunk former tavern bouncer who fights well due to his job and the fact he's seen like 50 adventuring parties throw down in a pub and recalls their tricks) with PF2 Monk. If anything, he'd probably be closer to Fighter and even then that's still not close enough.(snip)
This sounds a lot closer, concept-wise, to the Rogue with the Brute Attack Technique from the playtest... basically, they can do sneak attack with any simple weapon (instead of just a short list), can wear medium armor, and can use strength as their class key stat. The level 2 feat for this lets you beat the fear of you into people.
The fist is a 1d4B simple weapon that is agile, among other things, though the rogue would be as effective with a club, staff, or mace.