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Unfortunately it seems like the door has already been replaced, and the room cleaned, but desperate for any clues, Aduriel asks the other fora bit of help searching for any clues.

"lets have a look, maybe the abductor left some small clue behind to his identity."

He then stats to carefully look into all the nooks and corners of the room. Later he repeats the procedure at the window and the ladning spot.

As discussed I will detect magic, but I understand there is nothing to find. So I will just try to find something normally.

Perception: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (3) + 6 = 9 Looks like I need help from caks to have a chance to find anything.

yep. hard to keep up with all those minor details.

As for your Question:

Dungeon Crawl,
Roleplay
Combat
Exploration

But most important some overarching secret to discover is thew most fun for me.

PS: Still in vacation mode, sorry for the infrequent posting.

Can you describe the statue she picked up a bit. I would like to know what kind of statue it is and I am trying to apply the correct knowledge skill.

Sense Motive: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (12) + 6 = 18

"Thank you for caring for my sister all those years. I know we should have come more often I will certainly try to do better in the future. But for now I think it is most important to find out, what is behind all of this. I wonder why they started now after all those year suddenly again."

"I would like to see the Alhindris room and the window, if that's allowed. I would like to find out as much as possible about that hoofed fiend, who is coming up all the time."

I want to read the Aura of the hoofprints again so that I build up clearer picture of it and maybe at a later stage recognize them.

Aduriel is trying to calm down Telurion and hopes the caretakers can still be convinced to talk to them.

1d20 + 0 ⇒ (11) + 0 = 11 Somehow I doubt, people in an asylum have a negative will save, so looks like I fail.

@Aduriel: it seems as if Lil and Telurion are somewhat a) upset that Alhindri were released “to then cause havoc” and b) Lil is a bit upset with the nature of the Asylum.

However misplaced such notions may or may not be in the eyes of the Asylum keepers I have no problems with these two characters acting….in character? Lil seems particularly upset about individual free agency, and Telurion seems like a typical villager upset that…his…village…was preyed upon.

From your post above, it seems like you are questioning Lil and Telurion’s players what the point of their actions is/are? Likely Aduriel might be upset that what is nominally Aduriel’s family business has been hijacked by wanton interlopers, but he can definitely say as much to the Asylum staff to try to “rectify” the situation.

I think there might need to be a conversation about “metagaming” and “character agency”.

I have posted that question in dsicussion and not in gameplay because I am asking about the players.

What do you guys think you are doing? is the plan really to run through this world, and accuse everybody of everything that comes to mind, as soon as you see them?

I am currently on holiday, and Internet access is a bit more spotty than I thought. Might be a bit slower posting in the coming 2 weeks.

Hello Ms Abagail, My name is aduriel, and I am Alhindris Brother. My parents send me here when we got your letter about her disappearance.

Aduriel tries to find the letter somewhere in his backpack.

"But when I found here, she was under the care of these helpful people in the village of Raven. They and Father raven told me, how she got possessed by a magic fiddle, which raised the dead around her and attacked the village."

Aduriel tries to explain what happened from what he heard, hoping the others will provide the necessary detail.

"We now come here asking you to take her back into your care, while we search for the cause of all this. We would also like to know how she disappeared, and speak with the people who cared for her. Maybe something occured, like a visit or and letter, which set all these events in motion and could give us a direction to search in."

Earlier when we saw that rider, please roll Loremaster Lore to tell me if I know anathing about who this was. Also for clarification, he was riding from the direction of Bard's Gate in the direction towards Raven, correct?

Dripping water all over the lawn Aduriel thanks Lil for getting his sister out of the water, before walking over to the unknown Orc, trying to find out who that is.

But when he approaches he is immediately distracted by that strange vial. "What have you got there Telurion? this looks interesting"

Recall Knowledge Loremaster Lore (+8)

Athletics DC 15: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (5) + 4 = 9
Jumping into the river Aduriel soon realizes, that the river runs much stronger than he hoped.

Looks like there might be more people to be saved now.

"Alhindri!" Shocked to see that hois sister somehow managed to turn around and walk in the opposite direction while he was not looking Aduriel drops his staff and his backpack and rushes back to where is sister is wading into the river, trying to hold her back.

running over and straight into the water trying to get a hold of her before its to late. Aduriel is not checking for anything but the most obvious dangers before jumping into the river.

I am all for continuing this fascinating discussion, especially since it also concerns How I develop my Wizard, but in the meantime that orc is slipping oin his banana peel and would greatly benefit from knowing if lies on his behind or not :-)

Aduriel continues to approach the fight and then summons a slippery coat of grease onto the grass below the last standing orc.

◆ Stride
◆◆Grease Grease a few spaces around the nearest Orc he must make a Reflex or Acrobatics DC18 or fall prone.

Good points on spells Aduriel, though possibly not the prone point. Weapons can still be used prone, even unarmed attacks. Supreme Being and I are in a game where our plucky Half-orc ranger party member managed to drop an opponent with a particularly well placed kick (Critical Hit, unarmed strike) while lying in the prone position. I think it was flavoured as a kick in the unmentionables.

Yes, I am not totally firm on all those rules yet, but I assumed as a martial those attacks are at a penalty, while spells still have there full power.

PS: I really don't like how those orcs have positioned themselves. Really put a cramp in my planned spell.

Pretty sure I could have just stayed in the tent too! Pretty hidden in there!

Good points on spells Aduriel, though possibly not the prone point. Weapons can still be used prone, even unarmed attacks. Supreme Being and I are in a game where our plucky Half-orc ranger party member managed to drop an opponent with a particularly well placed kick (Critical Hit, unarmed strike) while lying in the prone position. I think it was flavoured as a kick in the unmentionables.

Yes, I am not totally firm on all those rules yet, but I assumed as a martial those attacks are at a penalty, while spells still have there full power.

PS: I really don't like how those orcs have positioned themselves. Really put a cramp in my planned spell.

I believe all those Discussion don't belong into the gameplay thread

As for the content of the complain, I don't believe there significant 1 action damage spells in PF2e and if there are they are probably not worth using.

Spells have the advantage of being
- providing very decent and scaling damage.
- mostly ranged
- always on(without having to draw weapons, stand up etc)
- Able to target specific weak points of the enemy (Instead of always vs. AC)

OTOH spells have the disadvantage of costing 2 or more actions unless they are minor buffs, which makes your action economy that much harder to juggle.
And I don't expect that to become easier in higher levels, you just get better at it.

And finally Damage is not the end of everything in PF2 Some opttions where mentionedd already, but also you could try to hide to make it easier for you to hit them next turn with your electric arc.

Seeing the Battle moving farther and farther away, Aduriel concentrates for a second before Calling forward two more balls of energy sending them once more against the strongest looking Orc.

He then starts rushing forward towards the orcs while trying to stay in the shadow of Telurion and the Caks.

◇ Drain Bonded Item (Staff) to recover Force Barrage
◆◆Force Barrage Force Dam: 2d4 + 2 ⇒ (2, 4) + 2 = 8
◆ Stride 30 ft.

@ Caks, Sorry due to my changed turn and the fact that the orcs didn't really approach either I wasn't close enough yet. Next turn I hope things are better. But since no action was lost, I hope it doesn't make a difference for you.

I believe Caks is on Deck before Aduriel.

Aduriel raises his streched hands and 3 balls of pale violett energy rise above his head, turning faster and faster before shooting towards the orc, slamming into his chest.

Seeing the first foe falling, Aduriel decides to go after the Orc Sergeant to reduce the morale of the enemies.

◆◆◆ Cast Force Barrage
automatic hit for Force Damage: 3d4 + 3 ⇒ (3, 1, 4) + 3 = 11

◆ Stride (30ft)
◆◆Electric Arc vs Orc3 Dam vs Basic Reflex: 2d4 ⇒ (2, 2) = 4

"Telurion, Caks, if you give me a sec I can help you."

If you delay so that you act behind me, I might be able to make the Orcs which will surely arrive Offguard or provide a flank to at least one of you.
PS: I hope for a new group not yet skilled at working together its okay, when I spell it out.

@GM there are a few typos in your Initiative template.

My name is Aduriel, and Âdayil is missing an y somewhere.

@GM I assume the bushes are not substantial enough for me to take a hide action in future turns?

Aduriel leads his sister into the bushes hoping she stays there or at least walks into the woods, before turning back towards the battle and raising his shield spell.

Afterconsidering the new situation, I will instead choose to end my delay after Casks turn.

Aduriel spents as many manipulate actions as are needed to get Alhindri to sit down, spending a bit of force if neccessary.

If it takes more than 3 actions, I will spend my whole turn on it.
If it takes only 2 actions I will cast shield with my remaining action.

Well Its your game, but your delay ruling is definitely not rules as written.

Shutting up now and waiting for Telurion and the Orcs to do their thing.

You wait for the right moment to act. The rest of your turn doesn't happen yet. Instead, you're removed from the initiative order. You can return to the initiative order as a free action triggered by the end of any other creature's turn. This permanently changes your initiative to the new position. You can't use reactions until you return to the initiative order. If you Delay an entire round without returning to the initiative order, the actions from the Delayed turn are lost, your initiative doesn't change, and your next turn occurs at your original position in the initiative order.

The rules explivitely state otherwise concerning Delay.

Also I fully get the Rules about preparation, but I successfully spotted them by winning initiative with a perception check, and and I want to know What exactly I saw when I spotted them. In running the Encounter the official Rules the as a first step-.

When an encounter begins, spend a moment to describe the location if you haven’t already, using some of the description tips found in Evocative Environments on page 38. It can help to describe where enemies are within the environment to better ground them in the location. You can also use the enemies’ expressions to better convey the location. Is an enemy in a wary stance as they stand near a pit? Is another irritated by water dripping on it from the ceiling? Does a glowing glyph illuminate an enemy with a sinister red light?

The example from the rules explicitly state that Lil would get some of her information on how hostile those orcs look, although given the long distance I fully understand when you say we cannot see that much detail.

@ GM:
- Lil only delayed after the first orc (which I believe is possible)

- Just in case it make a difference I did not delay because I have faith in there good intentions, I am fully expecting them to attack, just waiting for them to come into range.

- I think the description of the Seek Action doesn't fit what I am trying to do. I do not want to find any hidden Information, just Know what is readily available by just looking at my opponent, something I will do all the time. Does he currently carry a weapon, is he bigger than me, is a longbow visible over his shoulder. Of course when he is partially hidden, its clear that The available information is fewer.

Aduriel will delay until all 3 Orcs have taken their turn, althoug purely for tactical reasons.

One more question, How do you handle if I want to see if they have any readily visible ranged weapons I am talking about openly carrying a bow or crossbow, not spotting a concealed knife or maybe even a crossbow strapped to there back? is this an information I would need an action to acquire?

@Telurion, its a free action on Archives of Nethys too, the borders of the action icon are empty.

@GM what kind of a action would it bet to grt my sister to stop? And is she currently pointing towards the river or not?

Talking to Lil
"So I assume my sister was the whole time at the graveyard being played by that fiddle. Father Grimble showed me some troublesome tracks, something like a burnt hoofprint, like its was made by some devil or demon. Similar prints where also found 85 years ago, so I believe whatever started all this has caught up with her again.

Marching orders

Aduriel Is spending his time leading Alhindri by walking behind her and trying to steer her. After a troublesome first half an hour where she twice almost stepped into the water he slowly gets the hang of things and knows when more immediate steering is needed. I assume I use my exploration activity on this day to just steer her. @Telurion woiuld you mind taking the back to keep me between my sister and the fiddle, with Lil taking the second spot?

You can probably still reach the Asylum before dark, and depending upon the time you spent in the Asylum... or any distractions along the way... perhaps make it to the Waystation. The waystation is only about an hour away from where the road to the Asylum turns from the trail.

Adruiel
** spoiler omitted **

After talking to father Grimble and a short visit to the graveyard Aduriel returns tothe group, statiung he is ready to leave.

"Would you please help me take my sister to the asylum? I know it would slow us down considerably, but I don't want to send her with some strangers to a place I don't know if its safe, Once we get there, my parents assured me, that the asylum was taking very good care of her in the last 85 years, and I am sure if the place ius still undisturbed we can leave her there for a while while I try to find out what this is all about."

Hope thats fine with the people who have not yet spoken up, once we get there I hope we find a situation where I can let her stay with a good conscience.

Once the group is on the way Aduriel steps up to Lil and asks "Can you tell me exactly what happened by that crypt? Is this where you found my sister? Did you see anybody else around that pklace during the events?"

Does this mean we can't reach the asylum and get to the waystation anymore before nightfall anymore? Because I really wouldn't want to send my sister with other people to the asylum, without knowing if everything is fine there.

@GM: Concerning Alhindri, I will defintely lead her to the asylum myself. The way the other described me the situation, talking about fear of lynching etc. I just wouldn't feel good, if I didn't spend at least these 2 hours.

I don't know yet what I will suggest afterwards, I believe this depends also on what we find in the asylum, but also what others think about such a "impediment" for an adventuring party.

Yes I see the map and I see only the landscape feature you described

I definitely do not see a huge magic dragon hiding in the bushes.

Sounds to me like my current exploration activity will be lead my sister with not much time left for anything else. Otherwise I will choose Search in the Wilderness and Detect magic in the dungeons.

Arcana: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12 I don't know if you want to roll hidden, but Aduriel wants to know what he thinks about the idea of burning. Unless somethign negative comes up I don't mind trying.

"I think especially if things started there we want to visit the asylum and look for information about what happened."

I am fine with visiting the asylum, but would prefer to spend the 1 or 2 days to build the box and talk a bit with Father Grimble about the past events.

Yes I tried to push forward to meet the others, but apparently they were already on their way down.

Just when things couldn't get any stranger, Aduriel is accosted by a ratfolg about his willingness to fight alone. Confused he wonders why thhis would be of any concern he clearly didn't plan on doing any fighting at all.

In desperation he turns to the most normal of the group and decides to answer Telurion.

"You are welcome Telurion, my name Aduriel from Bard's Gate. A few days ago my family received a letter that my sister Alhindri went missing from the Asylum and we should come to help searching for her, siO Iw as sent with haste."

"I just arrived in Raven, when I heard, that Alhindri has actually reappeared here in Raven and now Lil here told me that she unwillingly assaulted the whole town. And something about a magical artefact controlling her."

"Is it true, that you were the oince who found her and made sure she came out of this busineess alive. I really can't thank you enough. I hope she is well, I would really like to see her."

Aduriel would want to talk to his sister, but as far as I understand she is not reacting in any way, so he is fine with moving forward to the asylum, if this is the way everybody else prefers.

"I believe something set things in motion again after over 80 years. I agree we should visit the asylum to find out what happened there to lead to my sisters disappearrance."

When Aduriel sees the half of the fiddle constantly trying to move he strongly suggests building the lead box as Father Grimble suggests. "An artefakt this strong won't be contained by a mere bag or wooden box. If we leave now we will have to constanly watch the fiddle even during nights. But I have build a box like this before and should be able to finish this very soon.

With his background of Magic Merchant I assume Aduriel would have a healthy respect for such an artefact and also have seen such a device build before.

I finished my initial Shopping and the pathbuilder character is
here. I will probably manage my daily Spells/Inventory here in the forum profile thoguh, if thats okay with you.

PS: @ GM, I am still missing one more language choice. Could you make any suggestions what languages would make sense in the LOst Lands settings?

PS: @ Lil: Aduriels reaction is no critique on your wonderful roleplay, I am just trying to roleplay his confusion and social awkwardness when confronted with the current situation.

Aduriel is happy to see the stormy clouds around Lillanith dissipate as she starts talking.

"Yes we heard she vanished from the asylum. My family send me here to help looking for her."

"She did what? attack the village? While controlled by a magic fiddle? Why do these things always happen to her? Wasn't she cursed enough already? Anyways I am happy to here that you want to help her, although I am not sure how runnign away is going to help her."#

Realizing what he just said, Aduriel reddens deeply and stammers "Apologies, I didn't mean to say that. I am sure you know better than I ever will. I think i better go looking for my sister." Aduriel hurries up the hill hoping to escape his blunder.

Is Alhindri in the temple when I arrive there? Or just the heroes and a bunch of shocked villagers unsure what to make of the situation?

Welcome to the game, Aduriel.

Thanks Looking forward to it.

Also I want to apologize for the confusion, I wasn't fully aware of the timing either and therefor worded my question wrong, I should probably have asked for the asylum.

Okay, I introduced myself into that very unfriendly scene.

As for the character: I have not yet selected my Level 2 Spells and haven't bought the 2 Level 1 spell scrolls I want to buy from my slightly increased wealth but apart from that the Pathbuilder Char is finished.

Will copy it ion the Paizo profile in the coming days, for easier access.

@GM: Since I bought these scroll during previous Adventures are you okay with me trying to scribe these into my spellbook sometime in the past.

Perception: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (16) + 8 = 24

A tall lanky young elf , clad in dusty travelling robes and carrying a staff, enters Raven from the east, walking up to the temple.

The young man looks a little insecure at the fresh signs of carnage all around him. When he notices the fuming woman racing down the hill, he falters shortly , before finally trying to steel his nerves. "Come on, you can do this, It's not your fault, that Tarall almost wrecked the shop, when you told him that his grandmothers priced heirloom amulett was just a piece of Kholo Junk.".

Trying to stand straight he approaches Lillanith, speaking with a slightly forced friendlyness. "Hello, how is your day. I have got a letter from the nearby Asylum, telling me that my Sister Alhindri is here in Raven? Do you know her?"

If you talk about ne characters, do I understand this correctly, that I (the Brother) have arrived in the village and can decide to act in the current conversation?