"Mitch Mutrux wrote: I'm not trying to win Pathfinder here. I will welcome whatever end humanity receives with open arms, even unto the heat death of the universe, if it means an end to people saying this phrase and variations thereof. A player may optimize for a variety of reasons, whether out of a desire to improve oneself, a desire to be a credit to his or her team, or just to survive combat so as to play their guy longer and that player may choose to optimize to any given degree. I would be utterly floored if it were ever in the interest of "winning" Pathfinder. To suggest that it is the reason a player optimizes is insulting in the extreme, as it belittles the time and effort spent in so doing. Insisting someone is trying to win Pathfinder is akin to making a personal attack, which I really wish people would have figured out by now. It doesn't strengthen your position, it just reads as a weak attempt at painting your target jn a negative light. So please stop doing that.
KitsuneWarlock wrote: The attempted attack made my GM feel awkward and it was ruled on the spot that a bird shouldn't be able to do that much damage. I accepted his ruling without argument, doing 1 or 2 damage with my peck, and continued the combat on foot, unable to reach any enemies with my unarmed strikes as they were all flying. I understand PFS is "RAW", but I don't like confronting GMs or causing uneasiness at tables, so I let my GM do his thing and talk to him about it before the next game, if I play the same character... That isn't a ruling. That's willfully contravening rules to nerf a character because it doesn't fit the GM's perception of balance. It's exactly the kind of thing you're not supposed to do when GMing for PFS. To be clear: your problem there is not with the ring, it is with a GM flagrantly violating the spirit of PFS: legal options should be legal at every table.
Kyrand wrote:
Whew! I was worried for a second there. So we're at a possible +9, in theory. Eats up our first four feats, an exploit, a trait, and a racial trait, but we now counter/dispel cl 6 spells automagically on a 1 (assuming level 7 for the feats and the spell) and can hit a maximum cl of 25. Not shabby."CL20 arcane locked door? I dispel it."
Goth Guru wrote:
The duration of Mage Armor is measured in hours. It's not a spell you cast at the start of a fight, but at the start of the day. Most mages I've seen enjoy Mage Armor's benefits quite often; it may be one of the most cast spells in a given mage's career. Shield is more difficult to leverage, until you quicken it or spell combat it. That said, my caster types just buy a +3 mithral buckler to obviate the need for it. My magi might use it, depending on circumstance. So Mage Armor is most definitely not useless. You have a better case for Shield.
Players: "So what are we about to fight? Do you have an image of it?"
A long time ago, in a session far far away: Player: "I'm going to scout ahead."
Prior to that: Player: "Ok, so we see a bunch of suits of armor that look a lot like those things we fought upstairs, but they're just standing there? I'm going to go check this door over here for traps. Also, is it locked?"
I try to deliver a solid stunner like the above at least once per session. I'm particularly proud of the first one.
MadScientistWorking wrote: Where does it say that you can't? You could be polymorphed into a frog and still be able to cast spells as a psychic caster. This is pertinent to what I hope to be my very next character: an Int based Kitsune psychic that uses fox form to zip around and melt peoples' brains, hopefully using the relevant racial traits from Blood of the Beasties, provided they end up PFS legal. CRB: Magic Chapter wrote: When you cast a polymorph spell that changes you into a creature of the animal, dragon, elemental, magical beast, plant, or vermin type, all of your gear melds into your body. Items that provide constant bonuses and do not need to be activated continue to function while melded in this way (with the exception of armor and shield bonuses, which cease to function). Items that require activation cannot be used while you maintain that form. While in such a form, you cannot cast any spells that require material components (unless you have the Eschew Materials or Natural Spell feat), and can only cast spells with somatic or verbal components if the form you choose has the capability to make such movements or speak, such as a dragon. Hence: psychic spell casting barring focus/costly material components
TriOmegaZero wrote:
That assumes Nintendo intends to continue production, which could be true. They may decide to instead make it a limited print run and move on to the Switch or a SNES classic limited print run. Point is: there's nothing wrong with people lining up at stores to buy a product for themselves or a loved one. Hell, in my household it was tradition to go line up on Black Friday. A bonding exercise where we sat out in the cold and whined so that we could get Mom the free snow globes at Macy's or that new tv to replace our broken one.
Even if your fighter is better at fighting than my class feature, my class feature is the superior choice because your fighter (and this has been true of every single fighter ever put in front of me over 15 years of playing D&D 3.x and Pathfinder) is in no way as useful as what could've replaced your fighter in your player slot. If I can have 75% of a fighter and a full caster or a 2/3 caster with 4-6 skill points per level versus your fighter, I would rather not take your fighter 99.9% of the time. No skill points, no magic, no ability to interact with anything beyond "swing sword, survive the experience." Literally no better than a trained dog. And the dog cuddles and plays fetch.
Arbane the Terrible wrote:
*Tactfully refrains from pointing out how spell combat and bladed dash can be combined for pseudo pounce as early as Magus 4.* ...*Also doesn't mention how one can combine a 4500 gp wand of bladed dash with spell combat using the wand wielder arcana to do this without spending spell slots* ... Fighters, amirite? They're... special! My, look at the time... *Shoves stack of spellcaster character sheets into a drawer for later, being sure to leave a druid on top, as it should be.*
CBDunkerson wrote:
Oh hey, another instance where Paizo releases an FAQ that restricts an option only to turn around and put out a product that includes rules options that immediately reverses said FAQ restriction. If you'd like to know what other instance I might be speaking of, it's the fairly contentious SLA spellcraft FAQ and the immediate release of Ultimate Intrigue with the Conceal Spell feat. Not cool.
There we were, negotiating with a creature whose presence defied logic. Wanting to ferret out any active spells that might enhance lies (glibness), conceal identity (polymorphs or illusions), otherwise undermine our investigation, my grippli casts a detect magic on a hunch. This prompts an ultimatum: "Drop your spell or I leave." Immediately a new plan coalesced in my mind, and I leave the tent and my allies to further the discussion. They chat and as they do, I begin a walk around outside to check for anything untoward when a guard intercepts my path, attempting to prevent me from accessing a sheltered spot right next to the tent. The gm asks how I intend to respond to the guard and my response is "bull rush." Cue a nat 20. The guard gets shoved aside, my grippli walks past with a smirk and catches the spellcaster on the other side of the tent red handed and the guard never is able to admit to having been bodily shoved aside by a two and a half foot tall talking frog. Might be one of my favorite moments in Pathfindering.
Vidmaster7 wrote: I'm going to have to look into the California thing. . Well, the idea is, a common citizen can make an end run around the political gears by getting enough signatures on an initiative, resulting in a proposition being put up to vote each electoral cycle. These propositions can't be altered by politicians once drafted, and can only be overturned by the judiciary, basically. So we end up with dudes standing around outside our shops asking if registered voters would sign their nth attempt to legalize sheep rocketry or whichever inane initiative they've drafted, then get to deal with it again when our ballot informationals roll into our mailbox and we've forgotten that the "Safe Squirrel Sanctuaries and Schools" proposition is actually the thing that says it's cool to strap rockets to farm animals. In 1964, as a result of Direct Democracy Initiatives, we attempted to ban cable television. It failed. In 2008, we attempted to do the same thing to same-sex marriage, through Proposition 8, which was enacted via, you guessed it, Direct Democracy. It passed, and was eventually struck down by SCOTUS, if I recall correctly. Now we're looking at prop 57, which decriminalizes things like certain forms of rape (by intoxication, or of an unconscious victim) as they do not meet the legal definition of violent crime. For starters. Lots of reading up to do on it. Pay special attention to stuff like Prop 8 of 2008, and 57 of 2016 for sterling examples of why this system can really suck.
jon dehning wrote: Well hell. Don't this just beat the bends? ... Is that a local colloquialism? If so, what particular context pertains to it? The nearest my Google search found was a marketing blog from 2010 pertaining to competitive advertising, particularly as regards car commercials by BMW and Mercedes Benz. Is that the context?
Mark Carlson 255 wrote: Why do you find the two terms offensive? Because it's incredibly reductionist and infers I am utterly uninterested or incapable of engaging with the game beyond whichever end of said spectrum I fall? Further, because neither label is particularly useful for discourse (the act of labeling one or more parties in a given debate does not actually further your position, and is incredibly likely to inflame one or more parties emotionally, presenting a barrier to a mutually beneficial decision), their usage is virtually always intended to provoke a party with whom you disagree but lack sufficient evidence to refute the claims of. For starters. And that's not even touching the fact that the term 'rollplayer' is almost unilaterally used as a derogatory term or slur.
BigNorseWolf wrote: "sorry, we're negating your investment in skills by having your skills just plain not work" Very much this. And then, even if you took the feat (instead of sensibly ignoring it), your payoff was a bunch of items that had a chance of exploding in your face and that had limited charges and required additional feat investments to use. "Want to interface with Season 6 content? Devote half of your feats and several skill points, and we'll let you play with some broken laser guns that only shoot about 4 times before running out of juice. Oh, but there's chronicles that will fix that, but don't you dare go looking for them, as that would be chronicle fishing, which is analogous to cheating in the eyes of the community." There are lots of ways tech can be integrated into a fantasy setting in awesome ways. That is not at all what happened, so many of us, who are nominally fine with sci-fi in our fantasy having been brought up on Final Fantasy and similar games, ended up looking at a set of rules that was actively hostile to players interested in playing with something as simple as a laser pistol.
Serisan wrote: It's almost always to prevent loss of control of the character to bad guy dominate attempts or something similar. I've never seen a player use that aspect of the black blade for anything but helpful actions. Yes, that would be normally true, however, as Jason Wu alluded to, there is sufficient evidence to suggest an alternate possible motivation for so doing. Thus, my post; If a player is rerolling a successful save in a bid to avoid other mental domination, great. If they're trying to subvert the no pvp clause or otherwise sabotage the efforts of the table, that doesn't fly. We now return you to your regular light-hearted entertainment thread.
Gulthor wrote:
Yes and no. It's ultimately +2 to hit, but it's also entry into feats and the like that may have BAB prerequisites. I will say, however, that my DD is using a polearm for most fighting, switching to a bow if tactically needed. BAB helps all of that. I generally expect to use my claws and teeth only if grappled. And now I kind of want to build a natural weapons DD that dips Scaled Fist Unchained Monk in that Lore Warden Fighter spot to gain Dragon Style and monk stuff.
My entry was Divine Hunter Paladin 2, Archeologist Bard 1, Id Rager Bloodrager 1, Lore Warden Fighter 1. Strong saving throws, strong self buffs from rage, smite, and archaeologists luck, reasonable skill points to cover that pesky know:arcane 5 along with the basics, spontaneous casting from bard for entry. Also managed to snag a couple of nice bonus feats, opening up bow use in a pinch. Oh, and only 1 lost BAB. That fighter level could probably be something else.
Jared Thaler wrote:
If its the occasion I'm thinking of, it was only a x3 crit. Halberd. Very messy. Took weeks to get the blood out. Of the floor. Only took a few seconds to get the blood out of the mage. If not, carry on.
...you're embarking on a heist mission with a fighter and a zen archer who have zero ranks in stealth. And yet we still managed to get through the scenario with both prestige without rolling initiative thanks to the wonders of invisibility sphere and a history of playing video games like Tenchu or Deus Ex. Man, those two were the proverbial fish out of water though.
ChaosTicket wrote:
Literally none of this is true.
World's Okayest Fighter wrote:
I give up. Enjoy your echo chamber.
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
While that is the historical context, the quote seems more apropos as regards abuse of power and why you should care even if you are not the group being oppressed. Or you can choose to be reductionist and assume I'm invoking Godwin when I'm really not. Either way, the post I responded to reminded me of this quote, so I posted it. I'll now be leaving this thread, because in the grand scheme of things, what Paizo does with their forum doesn't concern me overmuch. Its fun to post here sometimes, but then there's threads like these and posts like yours; just more people looking for reasons to be upset, jumping at shadows.
noretoc wrote:
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist.Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Murdock Mudeater wrote:
"We fought a lot of spiders today, and I'm not sure how many if any were poisonous. We should probably hedge our bets, so here, drink this Antitoxin. If you start losing against the poisons in your system, we'll pop another Delay and prep Neutralize in the morning."
*receives Venture briefing*
My soul died a little after that exchange. I mustered a half hearted "Ah, ye ever been aboard a ship what ain't got rope? It ain't a pretty picture there; whole thing just falls apart really..." We didn't end up needing the rope that adventure, but to have the rope talk right after having Master of Spells Aram Zey describe us in glowing terms...
Muser wrote:
Sound like it's time for a recap episode full of previously aired footage and a voice over explaining the plot by the narrator. Remember to include commercial breaks! Hire a swarm of sick children to sneeze and cough on your GM?
Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
A veritable hive of scum and villany. I have never had a good experience with Open Gaming. After a couple of years including Gen Con Indianapolis and Gen Con So Cal (back when it was a thing), I just stopped trying. By contrast, while there are occasionally stinker tables, the majority of Organized Play has been quite enjoyable.
Esoteric Magus. Arcane Pool enhances your unarmed strikes, so you don't need a magic amulet for that. Mage Armor and Shield are on your spell list, so you don't need to buy those either. In theory, if you were so inclined you could prep the stat booster spells (Cat's Grace, Bull's Strength, Owl's Wisdom if you take Spell Blending) and skip buying those items, though I might make a concession and buy a magic belt and headband. Boom! Instant awesome. Man... I keep coming back to this class+archetype combo. All this last week or so. Esoteric Magus. It's like a bad penny. Maybe I do need to make this after all, despite already having a kung fu fighter. I mean, I do hear everybody is kung fu fighting...
*opens Youtube to go listen to the full song* |