Heroes of Today

Game Master Ironperenti

I’m looking to run a M&M game using the new 4e version as a base with several house rules. I want to work with the players to tweak the house rules as we go. I will be using an amalgamated world with cities and organizations from M&M and Champions.

Starting power level is 10 with 150 character points to spend. 10 must be spent on skills, 20 on abilities, and 120 as you wish.

For those familiar with the Champions universe the campaign will start in Millennium City (formerly Detroit). For those not familiar, it is a rebuilt Detroit after a major super villain - super hero battle leveled the city. It has been remade with various high tech gizmos. My historical timeline is different than either system but we can workout any history issues after play begins if necessary.

No seeing the future, no seeing the past, no object reading. I might be willing to give convoluted glimpses but it would not be a reliable power.

Rules I want to try:
> roll 3d6 not 1d20
> resistance DC base is 11 for both dmg and affliction.
> Levels of failure/success calculated every 3 not 5
> Toughness is decremented as remaining hits of consciousness but is not reduced for resistance checks.
> levels of failure on damage will inflict 1 point of toughness dmg each.
>Skill limit is power level + 3 ranks. No limit on over all skill roll.
> Adding a reflex save whose base is Agility and not Defense. Save calculation would be PLx3 >= FOR+WIL+REF

I plan to close recruitment on 16 Nov.
I will use Roll20 for maps.
I hope everyone can post once a day M-F

If you have questions or comments, let them fly.

I am interested.

There's a new edition??! *Dashes off*

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MnM 4e is still in playtest mode, yes?

I thought it ended playtest in September. The playtest rules are on their website for sale. I don't remember it being too much. I was going to do a combined M&M 2e and 3e but seeing the 4e rules, thought I would work with those as a baseline.

Ironperenti is a fantastic GM yall

That's very kind of you.

Dotting for interest - at first glance leaning toward a Primal (Beast) Archetype concept: Smilodon - whose my homage to a little known UK comicbook character from my halcyon days - The Leopard of Lime Street...

... but am open to whatever fits the game :)

Off to read up more on both Millennium City and M&M 4E, as like DQ, wasn't aware it was a thing!

Nice pic.

I was poking around the site for resources and saw the origin rules. Read about them and found out they were the 4e playtest rules. So, thought i’d try my ideas on that set.

Would you mind linking to the rules you are using?

URL as requested;

Mutants and Masterminds Heroes Handbook 4th Edition Platest Origin Edition

I wasn't thinking when I posted, I am game with using 3e rules with some skill tweaks. That would probably be much easier for everyone and not cause someone to buy something they may never use again.

My main desire is to try out the rules I listed in my intro and to work with others.

I wasn't thinking when I posted, I am game with using 3e rules with some skill tweaks. That would probably be much easier for everyone and not cause someone to buy something they may never use again.

My main desire is to try out the rules I listed in my intro and to work with others.

So we can use 3E to make our characters and you will modify them as needed to adjust to the 4e playtst rules [wih the homebew rules you want to use], correct?

Teleportation will be part off my powers set.

Let's just do 3E with 2E skills. 4 skill points per character point.

Starting power level is 10 with 150 character points to spend. 10 must be spent on skills, 20 on abilities, and 120 as you wish.

For those familiar with the Champions universe the campaign will start in Millennium City (formerly Detroit). For those not familiar, it is a rebuilt Detroit after a major super villain - super hero battle leveled the city. It has been remade with various high tech gizmos. My historical timeline is different than either system but we can workout any history issues after play begins if necessary.

No seeing the future, no seeing the past, no object reading. I might be willing to give convoluted glimpses but it would not be a reliable power.

Rules I want to try:
> roll 3d6 not 1d20
> resistance DC base is 11 for both dmg and affliction.
> Levels of failure/success calculated every 3 not 5
> Toughness is decremented as remaining hits of consciousness but is not reduced for resistance checks.
> levels of failure on damage will inflict 1 point of toughness dmg each.
>Skill limit is power level + 3 ranks. No limit on over all skill roll.
> Adding a reflex save whose base is Agility and not Defense. Save calculation would be PLx3 >= FOR+WIL+REF

I plan to close recruitment on 16 Nov.
I will use Roll20 for maps.
I hope everyone can post once a day M-F

I have some other ideas but I'll discuss those with those who get involved.

I've never played M&M, but am somewhat interested in giving it a try. I'll look at the rules and see what I see...

The basic 3e rules are here for free:

basic 3e rules

Should we use the 3E abilily modifiers for skills if different than 2E? i.e. Agility for Acrobatics instead of Dexterity

Can we put ranks into 3E skills that are not skills in 2E? i.e. Close Combat

basic seeds of non-heroic background: He competed in the Summer Olympics for windsurfing. He also competed in various windsurfing tournaments around the world, and the bulk of his winnings went to purchasing his cutwater speedboat, with enough savings left over to cover his basic living and travel expenses. He does save a lot in gas cost (as once he is past the horizon (from onlookers' perspectives) he teleports his boat (and everyone on it) to somewhere else on the planet.

Complications

Motivation: Thrills
Other complication: Identity

Whereas to a very small niche of fans (windsurfer community) he is well-known, he is far from famous enough for the Fame complication.
He wears a hero costume that conceals his non-heroic identity.

Have not thought of a name for him yet (both his heroic and non-heroic identities).

I have, however, worked a bit on coming up for a name for his cutwater speedboat. His personal 'houseboat', though I have not decided on the name yet. One of the names I jotted down (which will not be the name of the boat) is 'Smurfs Up'. One of the other names I jotted down that might wind up being the name is Splash Pad.

Probably going to be from Australia or New Zealand.

One of the benefits he brings to the team is fast travel across the globe. Should someone else have a land vehicle we can all fit in (that has a gross weight of no more than 6 tons, I can port the vehicle with us in it.

edit: I removed Smurfs Up, and Smurfette did not show up, I put it back in with quotation marks, and she showed back up again.

So I googled...

Typing smurf in post on Paizo boards

Should we use the 3E abilily modifiers for skills if different than 2E? i.e. Agility for Acrobatics instead of Dexterity.

Yes

Interesting note about smurfs up

Okay noted on it no longer being 4E. Might change up my concept - will see what percolates o'er the weekend...

Okay, thanks both for linking the rules and then making it easier by using 3e... and I'm keen to try the 3d6 swap.

Thinking some kind of elementalist.

Definitely pushing a week. Let's go with 24 Nov for a recruitment period. I'd like to have at least a dynamic duo don't you know.

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I have a name for my surfer.

Kenny 'Kraken' Morrissey

I have not thought of his superhero moniker yet.

I may have to move the game to Vibora Bay instead of Millennium City. It would make more sense for attracting a wind surfer. It's basically where Panama City is located.

I'm still interested!

I think a team could handle up to six. This doesn't seem to be grabbing a lot of attention so I think there will be plenty of room. Those who play be prepared for me to pick your brains on how rules play out. Is there a better way, is this too cheap, is that power too expensive, those sorts of things.

I've mentioned it other places as well. I love making characters so if you need assistance please let me know. I'm not the best min/maxer but my grasp of the rules of a system are usually pretty strong.

Hero Forge mini of Kenny.

I have decided on his hero monker name.

Potential hero monikers were:

Skyline
Horizon
The Horizon

Skyline would have been because while in hero mode in a city he would be part of the skyline (as he would be standing atop the highest buidings some of the time).

Horizon/The Horizon would be because he can easily port to the horizon to see what's beyond it.

The name I settled on is the name of a few established comics characters...the most well-known one (I think) being part of Gen 13 (from Image comics).

The Gen 13 character has a different power.

His hero moniker name is from partly being a thrill seeker and what he is most known for (hero-wise) doing...and one of his most well-known heroing tactics is to grab a criminal and have them also do what he enjoys doing (though most people do not). His small way of trying to 'scare straight' minor criminals to become law-abiding citizens.

His hero moniker is...

Hero Forge mini of Freefall

I need to work with heroforge more. I was just designing my daughter a vanara and I suck. Found a good heroforge version of one to modify instead.

Does Heroforge have data for MM4? I love previous versions of M&M, but I was not sure I wanted to buy the new book considering how little I played the last edition.

Does Heroforge have data for MM4? I love previous versions of M&M, but I was not sure I wanted to buy the new book considering how little I played the last edition.

1. HeroForge is just miniature/portrait creator.

2. I think the GM switched to 3e so we wouldn't need to purchase the playtest rules.

I was confusing HeroForge. I missed that he changed that. I will need to put something together.

Yep, 3e to make rules availability easier. If you have 2e, use that skill list, otherwise, don't worry about it. It'll get massaged out later.

Unless we just have a mad rush of interest, I think everyone who wants to play can. We will have some rules discussion after recruitment closes, tweak characters if needed and then jump in.

What characters have been proposed yet?

I'm thinking either wind powers or water powers.... I feel like either way that could be compatible with the surfer.... but if it's too close I can move in another direction.

So far just a teleporter who likes to windsurf

Black Dow - at first glance leaning toward a Primal (Beast) Archetype concept: Smilodon - whose my homage to a little known UK comicbook character from my halcyon days - The Leopard of Lime Street...... but am open to whatever fits the game :) - [Enhanced strength, Enhanced agility, Enhanced speed, Enhanced endurance, Enhanced senses]

Crisischild - no info on hero yet

DeathQuaker - I'm thinking either wind powers or water powers.... I feel like either way that could be compatible with the surfer.... but if it's too close I can move in another direction.

ElbowtotheFace - no info on hero yet

GM_Drake - [Kenny 'Kraken' Morrissey] Freefall teleportaion powers secret identity is a wind surfer champion who lives on his 'house boat'

Malinor - no info on hero yet

@DQ: Aside scaring run-of-the-mill villains with having them experience freefalling from 8000 feet above ground (giving Freefall about a half a minute before teleporting them back to the surface of the ocean/lake (or back to 8,000 feet or higher above the ground again). Sometimes he does not go that high but high enough that they fall into the drink (be it oceean, lake, river, pond, pool or harbour) safely, I would suggest water-based poweres for your character would create the better synergy. Though wind and water powers would be good too. :)

I adjusted Freefall's hero look some.

Reason for blue colour - helps blend into the far-off sky background colour and the blue of the sea. His 'supersuit' is a wet suit, motorcyle helmet (with tinted visor to conceal his face) and a neck brace and a fringe vest (both made from same material as the wetsut). The fringes flap around when he is freefalling - the only noticeable part of him that moves from the criminal's perspective (who is freefalling beneath him).

@DQ: Hmm...Kenny is not an interrogator/intimidator (skills-wise) - I am also toying with him being 'mute' while in hero mode. If you were going to go with wind powers...would you also like to be the 'good cop' that questions the criminal while they are free falling?

This is Malinor, I want to bring Voltage back. I need to reduce the points back to 120, but this gives the general idea of what he would be.

Although it can be handy to design a group like in pathfinder, my storyline could handle either a mash-up of individuals who get drawn together to defeat the villains or a team that has been together for a while. You could even have a couple of small teams such as Power Man and Ironfist meet Batman and Robin type thing.

Going with wind powers. That should complement the electric guy and the windsurfing teleporter. Yeah, GM Drake, I was thinking kind of a charismatic guy so he can be the "good cop."

Aiming to get the sheet up over the weekend.

I've played Champions, Rifts, and Marvel Super Heroes...even Villains & Vigilantes....but never M&M yet. Any objection to a rookie?

Jump on in.

Here is a character sheet with the skill set from 2e to help the building.

3e Character sheet with 2e skills

Please make a copy before using.

Funny, I hadn't read Voltage's backstory when I began working on my character, and I'm also going for some Greek mythological ties. More obscure lesser God ancestry though. But it should create grounds for connection at least. :)

Here is a rough draft of my character. He still needs a lot of tweaking but this should give the idea. Sorry this has taken me so long: