[Gameday XIV] GM PaleDim PF2 #6-08: Upon Wheels and Rime

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Also, while we can't start the scenario proper yet, you can introduce your characters to each other. Feel free to head over to gameplay and do so.


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Thank you all for joining my table and filling out the info.

It appears I just need Beezhul Honeysuckle to fill out the chronicles and add themselves to slide 2.

It's looking very likely that we're going to be low-tier for this scenario. I hope everyone likes trains :D

Verdant Wheel

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Looking forward to a 4-man party.

Got my slides filled in!


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It occurs to me that this scenario doesn't define adjustments to the research point thresholds for four characters (versus six), so it will be harder for any of you to sit out on checks for any of the six designs.

Vigilant Seal

Female Changling Witch (Spinner of Threads) 1 AC 14 + 2 shield, F +4 R +3 W +7 HP 10/15 ◆ ◇ ↺ | -5 speed for 2 more rounds

Do all groups require a diplomacy check to initiate interaction or only those that seem to be standoffish?

Also, if one PC has made the diplomacy check with a group, does that break the ice for other PCs or does each PC need to make a fresh diplomacy check?

Vigilant Seal

Male Human Sorcerer 2 | HP 17/24 | AC 17 | F +5 R +7 W +7 | Perc +5 | Stealth +3 | speed 25 | focus 0/1 | spells 1st 3/4 | Active Conditions: ---

I'm guessing breaking the ice doesn't count as the one research attempt?

Vigilant Seal

Female Changling Witch (Spinner of Threads) 1 AC 14 + 2 shield, F +4 R +3 W +7 HP 10/15 ◆ ◇ ↺ | -5 speed for 2 more rounds

Right but is a diplomacy check needed after another PC has succeeded at a diplomacy check to initiate the research options? And which groups require the diplomacy check?

Beezhul didn't make a diplomacy check but got the research options.

Same with Elidathas and Siraya, and with Faethor and Lt Surkzin.

A diplomacy check was needed with the witches. Now that someone has succeeded with them, do other PCs need to make a diplomacy check or can they just interact?

Is a diplomacy check needed to interact with Pirozet or Ivindor?

It will speed things along if we know how this mechanic works.

One last question: are the research options going to be the same for each PC that approaches the same NPC group?

Vigilant Seal

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Male Human Sorcerer 2 | HP 17/24 | AC 17 | F +5 R +7 W +7 | Perc +5 | Stealth +3 | speed 25 | focus 0/1 | spells 1st 3/4 | Active Conditions: ---

Oh I was asking a separate question. I would also like to know the answer to yours. But I am pretty sure the only ones who need a "break the ice" are the ones noted as so

Verdant Wheel

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I think you guys are overthinking it.

I think it's just a many-skill Research subsystem, and some of the "libraries" (people) must be "unlocked" with a skill check.

How [random skill] qualifies as "research" is up to the roleplay / creativity!

The limiting reagent appears to be:

GM PaleDim wrote:
each PC may only attempt one research check per group


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Gitaena wrote:
Do all groups require a diplomacy check to initiate interaction or only those that seem to be standoffish?

The latter. I'll let you know when a precursor check is needed to get to the research at all. Then from there it's just chipping away at the "research challenge" for each group with a train design.

The tracker is meant to inform you on your current progress and any blockers. I'm happy to clarify it if needed.

rainzax has the right of it and I'd say this part is most important for an enjoyable research challenge :D

rainzax wrote:
How [random skill] qualifies as "research" is up to the roleplay / creativity!


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Gitaena wrote:
A diplomacy check was needed with the witches. Now that someone has succeeded with them, do other PCs need to make a diplomacy check or can they just interact?

With Faethor succeeding the whole group can proceed to influence the matriarch. Her disposition (or other design groups) is towards the Pathfinders as a group, not each individual separately.

Gitaena wrote:
One last question: are the research options going to be the same for each PC that approaches the same NPC group?

Yes. Once you approach a group the options become clear and they are the same for all of you.


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FYI I will be away in nature and unable to post this coming weekend, Saturday 9/13-9/14. I will return and resume posting that Sunday evening (US/Pacific time).

Vigilant Seal

Male Human Sorcerer 2 | HP 17/24 | AC 17 | F +5 R +7 W +7 | Perc +5 | Stealth +3 | speed 25 | focus 0/1 | spells 1st 3/4 | Active Conditions: ---

Well I think we're just out of luck with the dwarven fella.


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Everybody gets a shot, so not necessarily!

Verdant Wheel

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I will work to catch up soon!

So many aliases!

Vigilant Seal

Male Human Sorcerer 2 | HP 17/24 | AC 17 | F +5 R +7 W +7 | Perc +5 | Stealth +3 | speed 25 | focus 0/1 | spells 1st 3/4 | Active Conditions: ---
GM PaleDim wrote:
Everybody gets a shot, so not necessarily!

Well with only 4 of us, the other 2 both getting crit successes would only give us 3rp. But I'm sure we don't have to get all of these.


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Faethor Silverbrow wrote:
GM PaleDim wrote:
Everybody gets a shot, so not necessarily!
Well with only 4 of us, the other 2 both getting crit successes would only give us 3rp. But I'm sure we don't have to get all of these.

Correct on both counts. 3/4 would still be decent.


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rainzax wrote:
So many aliases!

TBH I'm surprised I got some of them.

As Paizo is developing and rolling out their new site, I really hope this usage of aliases is high in their considerations (e.g., aliases per-game that don't use up global names).

Verdant Wheel

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Firozet Botosar wrote:

Then Beezhul approaches...

A seance? I'm not sure, planar gates are a little more straightfoward than spirituality.

Checking your character sheet, how would you feel about converting that roll to Thievery (which would pass)?

Beezhul is not trained in Thievery (yet?)


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"Thievery to assist with delicate instruments."

I get the feeling that's more "natural finesse" and "manual dexterity" of the fingers than something specifically trained in, especially under the supervision of the design lead.

My call is to not require training for that.

Verdant Wheel

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Beezhul is Untrained in the remaining skills, and not wanting to risk CF, will sit out, having made all her Trained attempts.

=)


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GM PaleDim wrote:
FYI I will be away in nature and unable to post this coming weekend, Saturday 9/13-9/14. I will return and resume posting that Sunday evening (US/Pacific time).

REMINDER

Verdant Wheel

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We are awaiting one PC to make 4 checks, right?


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Yes (Just got back from my weekend trip and checkin into games).


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It got a little late and I'm out of juice to properly post. I'll compile Elidathas' results and move us forward tomorrow!

Verdant Wheel

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rainzax wrote:

Beezhul is Untrained in the remaining skills, and not wanting to risk CF, will sit out, having made all her Trained attempts.

=)

Bump

=)


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Yeah I did see that; I didn't know if anything about the results would change your mind (and e.g., a hero point as a safety net). But fair.

Verdant Wheel

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When the risk of CF matches the risk of S, I tend to shy away!

GM PaleDim wrote:

Special Conditions

If you end up in the same Obstacle as the goblins you may, on your turn, attempt a DC 18 Athletics/Thievery to to wrench a train model from a goblin’s hand.

Since we need 4 Successess, I take this to mean that options for a 5th Success has new skills?

Or, once we reach threshold of 4 Successes, Everyone who has already rolled can make a 2nd roll with the new skills?

=)


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rainzax wrote:
GM PaleDim wrote:

Special Conditions

If you end up in the same Obstacle as the goblins you may, on your turn, attempt a DC 18 Athletics/Thievery to to wrench a train model from a goblin’s hand.

Since we need 4 Successess, I take this to mean that options for a 5th Success has new skills?

Or, once we reach threshold of 4 Successes, Everyone who has already rolled can make a 2nd roll with the new skills?

=)

The latter. But, since the goblins start one obstacle ahead and they go first in init it will take some critical successes to catch up.


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So, one think I want to say right now in light of the teams seeming success... or lack thereof.

This chase does not make or break the adventure with success. All of the things after will still happen. So however the dice land, lean into it and have fun. I understand you might be getting frustrated by it, but try not to (easier said than done, I know) and let me know if you're struggling to enjoy it. Remember, these are goblins. Even if they get ahead, they WILL leave a trail ;)

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Can’t all be bangers.

Also “the goblins outran the pathfinders with the shiny” is a fun story to tell!


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There is talk in the lodges that the forums will have a planned downtime of a couple of days in the near future. It's unclear to me if this is planned for specific dates, and given how these things go it may not just last two days.

When the forums do go down: hang tight & check in daily to see if it's back.

Vigilant Seal

Male Human Sorcerer 2 | HP 17/24 | AC 17 | F +5 R +7 W +7 | Perc +5 | Stealth +3 | speed 25 | focus 0/1 | spells 1st 3/4 | Active Conditions: ---

Based on how the dice are going I'm gonna have to get Faethor resurrected after this game.


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Well, there's not much more to these guys, and hopefully your luck will regress to mean (improve) for the later encounters.

Vigilant Seal

Female Changling Witch (Spinner of Threads) 1 AC 14 + 2 shield, F +4 R +3 W +7 HP 10/15 ◆ ◇ ↺ | -5 speed for 2 more rounds

I will be away from home Thursday and Friday. I'll have access to WiFi and will try to post, but 'bot me if necessary. Gitaena has used her prepared spells for the day, but will use ranged cantrips if possible in preference to using melee weapons. She will cast her Hex on whoever seems might need it most. She'll also apply her Familiar of Balanced Luck ability to help whoever is in combat. Her profile has prepared dicebots for skill rolls and combat attacks.


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Thanks so much for the dice snippets!

Vigilant Seal

Male Human Sorcerer 2 | HP 17/24 | AC 17 | F +5 R +7 W +7 | Perc +5 | Stealth +3 | speed 25 | focus 0/1 | spells 1st 3/4 | Active Conditions: ---

I just realized I don't really have any good swarm fighting spells.

Vigilant Seal

Female Changling Witch (Spinner of Threads) 1 AC 14 + 2 shield, F +4 R +3 W +7 HP 10/15 ◆ ◇ ↺ | -5 speed for 2 more rounds

Gitaena has Haunting Hymn, but she'll have to wait until they are closer, as it is a 15' cone and a two action cantrip. It does d8 sonic, which isn't much but should affect the swarm.

Verdant Wheel

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Nudge Fate got a boost in the Remaster!

Verdant Wheel

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Thanks for Reflex bot, GM, looks liked I missed the prompt


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No worries. Looks like I forgot about the duration of Gust of Wind :sweats:

(and the damage resistant, noted)


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Hello. This is an FYI that I'll be away in nature starting this coming Friday 10/17, returning Sunday 10/19 when I will catch up and resume posting.

Vigilant Seal

Female Changling Witch (Spinner of Threads) 1 AC 14 + 2 shield, F +4 R +3 W +7 HP 10/15 ◆ ◇ ↺ | -5 speed for 2 more rounds

Are the number of actions listed in the "Help from Allies" how many actions a PC must spend to access the help? If not, what action(s) is/are necessary to access the help?


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They are exactly that. You can spend actions on your turn for any of these options instead of your normal actions.


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GM PaleDim wrote:
Hello. This is an FYI that I'll be away in nature starting this coming Friday 10/17, returning Sunday 10/19 when I will catch up and resume posting.

No promises, but I’m going to see what I can do from my phone this weekend. It’s just slower.


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GM PaleDim wrote:
GM PaleDim wrote:
Hello. This is an FYI that I'll be away in nature starting this coming Friday 10/17, returning Sunday 10/19 when I will catch up and resume posting.
No promises, but I’m going to see what I can do from my phone this weekend. It’s just slower.

Hehe well, the weekend trip ended up being a busy weekend trip. Catching up now and posting momentarily.


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We are nearing the end, so please check the rpgchronicles info and make sure that it contains what you want on the chronicle sheet. I know I was missing at least one character entirely there.

Verdant Wheel

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That was me - fixed now!

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