Members of the same or competing houses?
Members of the same house to begin with. I thought of Urden as the house you start with, but I changed my mind and chose Baenere.
Looking at A School Savant Arcanist Noble Drow Enchanter
Thanks, Critz. :)
I figured her druchite dagger is shaped like a feather, what she uses for her initial incision during her Obedience autopsies
I also dropped her SLA, so no nobility feats. But her connection with her patron is closer than most
@GM
I was wondering if it is at all possible to do the demon rituals from the Book Of Damnation vol2 (page 42+ )
And since she does what she does, can she start with both 1st and 2nd part done of the ritual?
Funnily enough. The Demoniac, the PrC I'm gunning for, is directly after the description of the rituals
At level 3, a dorw noble is likely unplayable with a -2 LA, and a really hard challenge at -1 LA. Especially since drow have a constitution penalty.
I'd expect this to become a feasible option at level 5 or 6.
Will we be affiliates or actual members of the family/house? If the latter, can we incorporate established members as parents etc?
@Elton: much like Pasha above, I am going to ask a bunch of questions. It would be helpful if you could answer all of them, rather than just one, so I don’t have to repost the unanswered questions.
* Regarding Level Adjustment: my understanding was that Level Adjustment of +2 on a race in a game of 3rd level characters would mean a 1st level character. Is this correct?
* Are we using Level Adjustment? If so, what LA is the Drider I posted earlier?
* Is the Slayer (Vanguard) an appropriate/allowed class/archetype for this game?
* In Greyhawk, driders were only male, while in Golarion, there are both male and female driders. What is the situation in the Forgotten Realms?
I for one wont mind to dump the LA :P everyone (barring ocean) will prob play DN :P
I for one wont mind to dump the LA :P everyone (barring ocean) will prob play DN :P
Oh - I hope the drider “issue” isn’t creating the use of LA - I think my PF1-fu is a bit rusty. To be honest I thought LA was a DnD 3/3.5 thing - whereas when looking on the d20pfsrd, in PF Race Builder terms Drider was listed as 35 RP to the Drow Noble’s 41.
So far we believe DN is +1. So it stands to reason drider will be too
I for one wont mind to dump the LA :P everyone (barring ocean) will prob play DN :POh - I hope the drider “issue” isn’t creating the use of LA - I think my PF1-fu is a bit rusty. To be honest I thought LA was a DnD 3/3.5 thing - whereas when looking on the d20pfsrd, in PF Race Builder terms Drider was listed as 35 RP to the Drow Noble’s 41.
PF1 doesn't normally do level adjustment. But when you have races that are much more powerful than others, then you need to balance that or everybody will play the high RP races. Level adjustment is crude, but effective.
@Elton: much like Pasha above, I am going to ask a bunch of questions. It would be helpful if you could answer all of them, rather than just one, so I don’t have to repost the unanswered questions.
* Regarding Level Adjustment: my understanding was that Level Adjustment of +2 on a race in a game of 3rd level characters would mean a 1st level character. Is this correct?
A1. Yes.
* Are we using Level Adjustment? If so, what LA is the Drider I posted earlier?
A2. +1.
* Is the Slayer (Vanguard) an appropriate/allowed class/archetype for this game?
A3. Yes.
* In Greyhawk, driders were only male, while in Golarion, there are both male and female driders. What is the situation in the Forgotten Realms?
A4. I think they are both male and female in FR.
Will we be affiliates or actual members of the family/house? If the latter, can we incorporate established members as parents etc?
everyone will be Affiliates of House Banaere, to give you some freedom.
Will we be affiliates or actual members of the family/house? If the latter, can we incorporate established members as parents etc?everyone will be Affiliates of House Banaere, to give you some freedom.
Okay, good to know for story construction
Banaere sounds appropriate for Zak :D
Banaere sounds appropriate for Zak :D
It's Baenrae, so I've been spelling it wrong. On both counts.
See the Drow of the Underdark, page 98. We can still do Banaere, as a minor house.
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i changed my character a bit, dropped dex to get a bit more INT. and now she has Diplomacy too
I figured her druchite dagger is shaped like a feather, what she uses for her initial incision during her Obedience autopsies
I also dropped her SLA, so no nobility feats. But her connection with her patron is closer than most
@GM
I was wondering if it is at all possible to do the demon rituals from the Book Of Damnation vol2 (page 42+ )
And since she does what she does, can she start with both 1st and 2nd part done of the ritual?Funnily enough. The Demoniac, the PrC I'm gunning for, is directly after the description of the rituals
@EJ
Any thoughts on this?
@GM
I was wondering if it is at all possible to do the demon rituals from the Book Of Damnation vol2 (page 42+ )
And since she does what she does, can she start with both 1st and 2nd part done of the ritual?
Sorry, I missed this, so I'll answer now.
Question is, is she a follower of Lolth? If so, she can start out with both parts done.
EDIT: I remember, she's a follower of Shax.
So does Lolth have, like, Pathfinder stats? I can't find any. (Domains, favored weapon, etc.)
So does Lolth have, like, Pathfinder stats? I can't find any. (Domains, favored weapon, etc.)
i was about to ask that :P
but Shax fits well for "The House of Healing"
even if its a made up thing and not from any book
So does Lolth have, like, Pathfinder stats? I can't find any. (Domains, favored weapon, etc.)
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I can make a quick conversion. Just a sec . . .
Chaos (Demon), Drow (see FRCS), Evil (Daemon), Darkness (Night), Destruction (Rage), Nobility (Leadership), Trickery (Deception)
Note: I replaced the Spider domain with Nobility. It seemed to be a better fit. See the FRCS and Faiths and Pantheons (3e) for more information.
May I ask what weapon is and perhaps which set of devotions I can copy?
Edit: favoured weapon is a dagger
I may perhaps change over
May I ask what weapon is and perhaps which set of devotions I can copy?
I may perhaps change over
Lolth's favored weapon is a Spider (dagger).
Portfolio: Assassins, chaos, darkness, drow, evil, spider
I found a link to the story, if I may
Her House but she does her work for Baenrae
So stays the same. I'll write up a story etc for her during this weekend. At least things are coming together for a coherent piece.
Banaere sounds appropriate for Zak :DIt's Baenrae, so I've been spelling it wrong. On both counts.
See the Drow of the Underdark, page 98. We can still do Banaere, as a minor house.
I noticed that, but thought you were doing a funny :)
@Elton: thanks for the swift replies. Ok, will look at making a 2nd level slayer (vanguard) drider. Might take me a bit as I’m a bit rusty with PF1e.
Given the concept - essentially being tied to another character - I’ll leave the background fairly basic. And I think I have a copy of the ADnD 2e Drow of the Underdark so will check if there is available information in there on House Baenrae.
Looking forward to see if we can team up!
@EJ
Do you have an idea of what level the game will cap at? I know this is FAR future, but it could influence planning
So Drow Noble is LA +2?
Can I lobby for us to create level 4 characters then? :D
I am also now thinking about converting my Zak into a melee investigator instead, to avoid having two Slayers in the group.
Believe DN is still +1
Though starting at 4 or 5 also sounds good ;)
Believe DN is still +1
Though starting at 4 or 5 also sounds good ;)
Ok +1 is better - thanks Seth!
If we plan to take this to 19+ levels, I may go DN, as I won't miss anything. But lower than that ill stick to normal Drow.
I'd rather plan ahead than not. Just my character creation brain that does this to me
8 base + 10 PrC
Zak will now probably look more like this (and he doesn't look like Zak so much anymore, oh well :P):
Zak
Male drow noble brawler 1/investigator (empiricist) 1
NE Medium humanoid (elf)
Init +3; Senses darkvision 120 ft.; Perception +7
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Defense
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AC 18, touch 13, flat-footed 15 (+5 armor, +3 Dex)
hp 20 (2 HD; 1d8+1d10+5)
Fort +3, Ref +7, Will +2; +2 vs. enchantments
Immune sleep; SR 13
Weaknesses light blindness
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Offense
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Speed 30 ft.
Melee mwk cold iron longspear +4 (1d8+4/×3) or
. . mwk silver morningstar +5 (1d8+3) or
. . unarmed strike +4 (1d6+3)
Space 5 ft.; Reach 5 ft. (10 ft. with masterwork cold iron longspear)
Special Attacks martial flexibility 4/day
Spell-Like Abilities (CL 2nd; concentration +1)
. . Constant—detect magic
. . At will—dancing lights, deeper darkness, faerie fire, feather fall, levitate
. . 1/day—dispel magic, divine favor, suggestion (DC 12)
Investigator (Empiricist) Extracts Prepared (CL 1st; concentration +5)
. . 1st—long arm[ACG], monkey fish[ACG]
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Statistics
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Str 17, Dex 16, Con 12, Int 18, Wis 11, Cha 9
Base Atk +1; CMB +4; CMD 17
Feats Improved Unarmed Strike, Toughness
Traits accelerated drinker, student of philosophy
Skills Acrobatics +7, Appraise +8, Bluff +4 (+9 to lie (as a result of using Int instead of Cha)), Craft (alchemy) +8 (+9 to create alchemical items), Diplomacy -1 (+4 to persuade others but not to gather information (as a result of using Int instead of Cha)), Intimidate +3, Knowledge (arcana) +8, Knowledge (dungeoneering) +8, Knowledge (local) +8, Knowledge (nobility) +8, Knowledge (planes) +8, Knowledge (religion) +8, Linguistics +8, Perception +7, Sense Motive +5, Spellcraft +8, Stealth +6, Survival +1, Use Magic Device +4; Racial Modifiers +2 Perception
Languages Abyssal, Aklo, Draconic, Elven, Infernal, Sakvroth, Undercommon
SQ alchemy (alchemy crafting +1), brawler's cunning, inspiration (4/day), martial training, poison use, trapfinding +1
Combat Gear wand of shield (50 charges); Other Gear +1 chain shirt, mwk buckler, mwk cold iron longspear, mwk silver morningstar, investigator starting formula book
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Special Abilities
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Alchemy +1 (Su) +1 to Craft (Alchemy) to create alchemical items, can Id potions by touch.
Brawler's Cunning (Ex) Count as Int 13 for the purpose of combat feat pre-requisites.
Darkvision (120 feet) You can see in the dark (black and white only).
Drow Immunities - Sleep You are immune to magic sleep effects.
Improved Unarmed Strike Unarmed strikes don't cause attacks of opportunity, and can be lethal.
Inspiration (+1d6, 4/day) (Ex) Use 1 point, +1d6 to trained skill or ability check. Use 2 points, to add to attack or save.
Light Blindness (Ex) Bright light blinds for 1 rd, then dazzled as long as remain in it.
Martial Flexibility (move action, 4/day) (Ex) As a Move action, gain a combat feat for 1 min. More gained for greater actions.
Martial Training (Ex) Brawler levels count as fighter/monk levels for feat/item pre-reqs and effects.
Poison Use (Ex) You do not risk poisoning yourself accidentally while poisoning a weapon.
Spell Resistance (13) You have Spell Resistance.
Trapfinding +1 Gain a bonus to find or disable traps, including magical ones.
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He has a lot of things which can be changed around, just wanted to give an idea. He is a martial/skill character basically.
So far:
* Albion the Eye -- Zaknafein.
* Seth86 -- Vierkacha.
Those that have expressed interest:
* Critizible -- Enchanted Courtesan
* Oceanshieldwolf -- Drider fighter(?)/Rogue(?)
Well, lets see if more people come up with concepts and fully realized characters. :)
So far:
* Albion the Eye -- Zaknafein.
* Seth86 -- Vierkacha.Those that have expressed interest:
* Critizible -- Enchanted Courtesan
* Oceanshieldwolf -- Drider fighter(?)/Rogue(?)Well, lets see if more people come up with concepts and fully realized characters. :)
You missed me, I'm going Drow (non-noble) Dread 2/Rogue 1. I'll have my submission up this weekend.
I've been working on a svirfneblin, but it's hard pulling them together with only two levels. I'll figure out who owns me once we have everybody.
I've been working on a svirfneblin, but it's hard pulling them together with only two levels. I'll figure out who owns me once we have everybody.
Not I! My character is lucky to be alive!
if no-one claims you, i dont mind having a servant (who needs leadership when you have half the party working for you :P )
Sorry GM, with the link i provided that there are houses who serve Shax, would i then be able to still have completed phase 1 and 2 of the ritual? Currently working on 3?
Sorry GM, with the link i provided that there are houses who serve Shax, would i then be able to still have completed phase 1 and 2 of the ritual? Currently working on 3?
That changes the Realms lore a bit (introducing Shax into the pantheon). And yes.
You missed me, I'm going Drow (non-noble) Dread 2/Rogue 1. I'll have my submission up this weekend.
ah, yes, I did miss you.
Much appreciated
You missed me, I'm going Drow (non-noble) Dread 2/Rogue 1. I'll have my submission up this weekend.ah, yes, I did miss you.
No worries :-)
I was torn and almost did an Inquisitor dip based on my build but it's just not worth it. But thinking about it and researching that idea slowed me down a bit, plus work, kids, posting in other games, dogs, etc etc...
So this is the new crunch that will go with her background, when i finally get to write it out
Female drow cleric (herald caller) of Shax 3 (Pathfinder Player Companion: Monster Summoner's Handbook 7, Pathfinder RPG Bestiary 114)
CE Medium humanoid (elf)
Init +2; Senses darkvision 120 ft.; Perception +11
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Defense
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AC 16, touch 12, flat-footed 14 (+4 armor, +2 Dex)
hp 18 (3d8)
Fort +3, Ref +3, Will +6; +2 vs. enchantments, +4 profane bonus vs. bleed and figments
Immune sleep; SR 9
Weaknesses light blindness
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Offense
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Speed 30 ft.
Melee mwk druchite dagger +3 (1d4/19-20)
Ranged heavy wrist launcher +4 (1d4/19-20)
Special Attacks channel negative energy 6/day (DC 14, 2d6)
Cleric (Herald Caller) Spells Prepared (CL 3rd; concentration +6)
. . 2nd—cure moderate wounds, enthrall[D] (DC 15), communal protection from good[UC]
. . 1st—bless[D], cure light wounds, infernal healing[ISWG], shield of faith
. . 0 (at will)—create water, detect magic, mending, purify food and drink (DC 13)
. . D Domain spell; Domain Nobility (Leadership[APG] subdomain)
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Statistics
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Str 10, Dex 14, Con 11, Int 14, Wis 16, Cha 16
Base Atk +2; CMB +2; CMD 14
Feats Demonic Obedience, Nimble Moves, Selective Channeling
Traits demonic persuasion, wicked leader
Skills Diplomacy +9 (+11 vs. creatures of the demon subtype), Heal +9, Intimidate +3 (+5 vs. creatures of the demon subtype), Knowledge (arcana) +8, Knowledge (history) +8, Knowledge (nobility) +8, Knowledge (planes) +8, Knowledge (religion) +8, Perception +11, Sense Motive +9, Spellcraft +8
Languages Abyssal, Common, Elven, Undercommon
SQ blasphemous covenant[ARG], call heralds, darklands stalker[ARG], divine heralds, druchite, inspiring command
Other Gear mithral chain shirt, crossbow bolts (20), heavy wrist launcher[UI], mwk druchite dagger, demonic implant: demon senses, bedroll, belt pouch, candle (10), flint and steel, golden unholy symbol of Shax[UE], holy text (Shax)[UE], masterwork backpack[APG], soap, spell component pouch, waterskin, 16 sp
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Special Abilities
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+4 to saves vs. figments and bleed effects (Su) You gain a +4 profane bonus against effects that cause bleed and figment illusions.
Blasphemous Covenant +2 Diplomacy vs. unbound demons, +2 hp/HD for Summoned Demons, offerings reduced 20%.
Call Heralds (+1 concentration) (Su) Concentration bonus to summon monster spells.
Cleric (Herald Caller) Domain (Leadership)
Cleric Channel Negative Energy 2d6 (6/day, DC 14) (Su) Positive energy heals the living and harms the undead; negative has the reverse effect.
Darklands Stalker Move through difficult terrain without penalty while underground.
Darkvision (120 feet) You can see in the dark (black and white only).
Demonic Obedience Defile yourself daily to prove devotion to a demon lord and gain benefits.
Divine Heralds (Su) Summon creatures appropriate to deity.
Drow Immunities - Sleep You are immune to magic sleep effects.
Druchite +2 circ bonus on atks vs creatures perceiving you with darkvision.
Inspiring Command (2 allies) (Su) Allies gain +2 Attack AC, CMD, skill checks
Light Blindness (Ex) Bright light blinds for 1 rd, then dazzled as long as remain in it.
Selective Channeling Exclude targets from the area of your Channel Energy.
Spell Resistance (9) You have Spell Resistance.
So this is the new crunch that will go with her background, when i finally get to write it out
** spoiler omitted **...
Looks good.
Too late to start now, I'll probably have her ready for Sunday evening.
Revised my original idea, going Dread Monk/