| GM supervillan |
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Hi folks,
In need of a rescue GM? I think I can help you out. I haven't run this one before, but I do own it already.
I know Evil Minion is dealing with some RL stuff right now, he's dipped out of a game I am currently running. Hope he's ok, but we haven't heard from him over there for a long while either.
Give me 24 hours or so to get caught up with your progress and read the scenario, then if you're all happy for me to do so I'll get you moving again.
Kra'ak
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Kra'ak not sure..... They say is supervillain, but act like hero.....
Thanks!
Redelia
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I'll leave you in supervillan's capable hands.
This game does still qualify for Gameday boons; if you want to be part of gameday, supervillan should send me the reporting info by private message soon after having you roll for boons.
Please let me know by private message if you need anything.
Happy gaming, everyone.
| GM supervillan |
Righto, I've done a summary post and a "where are you now?" post in Gameplay - over to you guys :)
(I've also emailed Paizo Support to get the threads transferred to my control - and I plan on using the existing Google Slides but I have made a copy of them just in case).
| GM supervillan |
It's a little awkward running effectively a one on one - but I expect the rest of you will be brought into the action one way or another soon enough :o
Akito, sorry you've been temporarily neutralised. You were just closest to the trapdoor. On the plus side, the Razmirans aren't really interested in murdering you all in your sleep.
| GM supervillan |
Hey folks. The next online convention, Outpost IV, has just been announced and I'd like to get you finished here before Outpost IV starts.
As you've probably guessed, Holy Ahendile is the scenario's BBEG. But if you defeat her you'll still need to find out what became of the dwarven emissaries.
There's a couple of things I can do to speed things up. I can spare you from needing to go through a full exploration in gameplay posts and just move to the relevant action. I can also bot characters in combat.
Henceforth, in order to get us finished in a reasonable time and before Outpost IV starts, I will bot any PC who hasn't posted within 24 hours of their turn coming up in combat. If you don't have a Bot Me spoiler on your profile I will use previous combats in this scenario as my guide.
I will begin this botting policy on Monday. Bear in mind I am probably 5-8 hours ahead of most of you, given that I am UK-based.
Oh and happy new year ;)
Akito .
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It's a little awkward running effectively a one on one - but I expect the rest of you will be brought into the action one way or another soon enough :o
Akito, sorry you've been temporarily neutralised. You were just closest to the trapdoor. On the plus side, the Razmirans aren't really interested in murdering you all in your sleep.
All good. Is Akito able to roll escape artist or some sort of reverse grapple to attempt to escape his bonds?
Kra'ak
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Finally winding down from a spontaneous New Year's trip. I'll be checking and posting later today
| GM supervillan |
Akito you can absolutely try Escape Artist or CMB checks to escape your bonds, but without outside assistance (or boons) your bonuses aren't high enough. Looking at your sheet, you have +2 on either check and the DC is more than 22. If you have boons and want to try something go right ahead. You can also take purely mental actions, but SLAs still require a successful Concentration check: DC=10 + attacker's CMB (the guy who tied the ropes) + Spell Level.
Kra'ak, I'll update gameplay after you've posted.
Jarrett Drendar
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I realized I made a build mistake on my character and he is now not viable to exist as a PC.
I'm withdrawing from this table- best of luck, sorry I wasn't able to finish.
Brady Torquatus
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I realized I made a build mistake on my character and he is now not viable to exist as a PC.
I'm withdrawing from this table- best of luck, sorry I wasn't able to finish.
What was the build mistake? Unless it's pretty extreme, you can usually just stop using the affected ability to continue the current session, then use retraining to correct it afterwards.
Jarrett Drendar
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I don't qualify for slashing grace, so I cannot use my temple sword for any of my swashbuckler abilities and cannot use my monk abilities for any weapon I could possibly use my swashbuckler abilities with-- the entire build is centered around it and there's just no possible way I can be anything but angry and frustrated with the entire situation.
It's just incredibly frustrating and angering to play a scenario for four months and then to discover that my character effectively cannot function and continuing under these circumstances with no effective option when I could have resolved this issue before scenario start at an ordinary table is just too much for me.
Brady Torquatus
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OK, that's certainly disappointing. I understand your frustration.
We're in a tight spot here. Would you reconsider and continue playing your PC, though? Your actions--however nerfed they may be--still help us each round. You are currently a flanking foil for Kraak, helping him get what sneak attack damage he can.
The whole table is hurt by this, but we're hurt even more if you leave. We still need you.
Jarrett Drendar
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I just really cannot handle it- the way the GM ambushed me with this four months into the scenario and there being no possible other way to fix it than "play the character without any of your abilities" or withdraw for a 0 XP chronicle sheet is just making me angry and not good for my mental health right now.
Brady Torquatus
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I just really cannot handle it- the way the GM ambushed me with this four months into the scenario and there being no possible other way to fix it than "play the character without any of your abilities" or withdraw for a 0 XP chronicle sheet is just making me angry and not good for my mental health right now.
If you'll allow a dissenting opinion, this is the 3rd GM we've had for this scenario. It's not fair to say that GM supervillian ambushed you; GM supervillian rescued this game. I certainly understand that it's frustrating, but it's not GM supervillian's fault that two GMs before him didn't catch the error. And again, while frustrating, it sounds like he's resolving it by the rules; that's not his fault.
Please, give this a night to think over, and strongly consider sticking with us. It's better than earning a 0 xp chronicle over a hasty exit.
Jarrett Drendar
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I can't use Weapon Finesse with the temple sword and the only equipment I purchased for the character was a +1 Adamantine Temple sword- my entire allotment of character wealth is in that sword.
If I pick up some random piercing weapon, I can't flurry with it and I'm left with one attack at very minimal damage.
The only possible weapons that I could both use weapon finesse and flurry with deal 1d4 (+0) damage.
And I have two feats sunk into an animal companion that's unavailable.
And I didn't find any of this out at the start of the scenario, or when we switched to the second GM, or when we switched to the third GM, but in the middle of combat after that- when I've put myself way out over the skies because I thought I was an effective character who could use his abilities.
I just don't see how continuing can do anything by make me angrier and more frustrated.
| GM supervillan |
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Jarrett and I have had a discussion via pm.
I do look over every character sheet when I GM pbp - and sometimes that means catching errors that others have missed. When I run a game from the start I'll do this before gameplay begins, but rescuing a game means that's not possible. I'll still look over everyone's sheet at some point though.
I offered advice on mitigating the error in legal ways, but Jarrett still feels that his character is not useful and is plainly angry about the situation. I don't think anyone ought to put themselves through a process that is supposed to be an enjoyable game if they are not having fun, and I offered a 0xp chronicle if Jarrett did not want to continue because that's what campaign rules allow.
I do not take kindly to being accused of 'ambushing' a player for running a game by the rules.
Jarrett, take some time out and then let us know here if you wish to continue or take the 0xp chronicle.
Jarrett Drendar
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Just give me the 0 XP sheet.
I'm having a literal panic attack here- give me the sheet and I will make sure to never come to your table again in the future if I ever play another PFS game on the forums at all.
I have PTSD and I just can't take the added stress of this crap right now.
If you don't want to be accused of ambushing people, don't ambush them.
Just mark the stupid character as dead- I guess that's all there is to do that's within the rules.
I don't know why I was suddenly audited in the middle of combat- the stiation Jarrett is in the only possible outcome is him being killed because he can't use any of his abilities and he's flanked by enemies and you waited until I put myself there and then told me that my character was a useless broken piece of garbage.
Just mark him as dead- hju mjkark him as dead.
Brady Torquatus
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Well, I hate to say this then, but you've just made my blacklist.
Unfortunately, you were picking up a run of Emerald Spire that I'm in. I was grateful for that, and now we're set back looking for a new GM again, but if you're going to ragequit this game over an error that you made, endangering the rest of the party--again, over an error YOU made--then I can't play with you there either.
| GM supervillan |
Folks, I don't want any escalation here. We will continue without Jarrett. I will make what allowances I can within the rules.
Please pm me if you wish to discuss.
Jarrett Drendar
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Yeah man- I don't care; I'm having a panic attack. If you can't accept that someone's real world mental health comes first then I don't want to GM for you either.
Sorry if I've been unkind and falsely accused you of ambushing me GM- but I feel ambushed and its just been the straw that breaks the camel's back today.
The reason I said to withdraw is because I don't want other characters to be killed with my "5th level" character increasing the APL and making the encounters more difficult than they should be for what is effectively a party with one fewer or members.
Really- I'm sorry, but I just cannot think straight when this happens and I felt ambushed and attacked and I just can't with that.
I get it- it's my mistake- I'm willing to let the character die, to take 0 XP- whatever the penalty for making a mistake when you make your character sheet, but I just can't with feeling like I'm being attacked personally today.
Kra'ak
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I am sorry to see you leave Jarrett, as there are ways to rectify this issue after the scenario is finished. Retraining, though it takes funds and prestige, can help. Then GM a few sessions to gain the money back, and help with making the build more viable and legal. Other than that, I do apologize about how you feel attacked, I've had to deal with it on characters I've thought were legal, then realized I took a feat too early. Other games, even before running them in person, I've always asked that players meet up with me 10 to 20 minutes ahead of game time so I can audit the characters, so this doesn't happen (snacks and drinks are provided by me).
Again, I am sorry, yet also the way that you are acting can get you blacklisted by players and GMs alike. All I can say, at the end of this, is have fun, and there are options. A 0xp and 0gp on a chronicle isn't the end. Best of wishes, and may you have fun in the future.
| GM supervillan |
There are multiple ways this could end, of course. Sorry about Shayna's demise - BBEG is big bad and evil, albeit she really would prefer to capture you rather than kill. That's my take, given the nature of the place. The Razmirans are not actually presented with any non-lethal tactics in the scenario text but they do demand your surrender.
Raise Dead costs 16 PP, or 5,450 gp, or 8 PP and 2,450 gp. The body has to be present. PCs are allowed to pool Gold but not PP to pay for anyone's Raise. A Raised PC is left with two permanent negative levels. These can be removed by Restoration spells. A Restoration to remove one permanent negative level costs 4PP or 1280gp; again other PCs can help with gold but not PP. You don't need to remove both negative levels before you can play again.
Recovery of a body left behind costs 5PP - there is no gp equivalent. This is also the cost of rescuing you if you are captured.
See p22 of Season 10 Guide.
| GM supervillan |
That depends on the outcome. If the rest of the party succeeds then you'll get the same rewards as them and can spend gp and PP from this scenario to help pay for Raise and/or Restorations (and body recovery if somehow they succeed but leave you behind, though that's a very unlikely permutation I think).
| GM supervillan |
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In f2f games, I have action cards to the GM could keep up with my kineticist shenanigans. As for pbp, I might suggest using a notepad template to copy/paste as a spoiler for all the things going on.
Pretty much all my characters have at least one "active effects" spoiler in their PbP taglines. A couple of my higher level characters have very changeable stats due to abilities like rage, animal focus, or extracts.
| GM supervillan |
Since Wisp mentioned it:
Stabilising a dying character is a function of the heal skill, specifically First Aid. Standard action, DC15. Typically any magical healing does the job too.
Kra'ak
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@Wisp This may help, just in case.
A Tiny or smaller creature on the ground is knocked down and rolled 1d4 x 10 feet, taking 1d4 points of nonlethal damage per 10 feet.
| GM supervillan |
I'm a big fan of Gust of Wind and have used it that way in the past :)
Gameplay update later today.
ETA: Wisp, don't forget that your elemental blasts do normal damage to swarms regardless of the swarming creatures' size.
Wisp Emberflake
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I really need to play this guy more often. I have forgotten all the things that go into him. It's like present me forgot what past planned when I created this build.
Kra'ak
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So, stupid rogue question, as I've seen people rule differently. If I leap the Grease and land in Wisp's square, can I keep moving if I have moves left? This little kobold wants to do tricks!
| GM supervillan |
As long as you've got move remaining, sure.
I treat a Jump as part of a move action, not as a separate action. You can't Jump farther than you can move in one round; I treat that as meaning a limit of a double move (not a run).
| GM supervillan |
In case any of you are wondering, we will definitely be done here before Outpost IV starts (unless you do something really totally unexpected again :o )