
Dottore Alexandru Creangâ |

Thanks for the invite!
Lucian checking in. Now to sit back and see how the Tzimisce and the Old Clan Tzimisce get along ;)
Admittedly, I'm not very familiar with the split between the two. I last played Vampire well over a decade ago, and none of the books I still have make reference to the Old Clan.
What I found online seems to mostly focus on the Old Clan's strong aversion to Vicissitude, but I couldn't find anything that said the two groups were openly hostile to one another. Basically, it sounds like Old Clan feels like Vicissitude (specifically) is a corrupting power that should not be used or propagated, and the standard Tzimisce see it as the ultimate tool of power, and that only fools would forsake its use.
Is that essentially correct?

Lucian Della Torre |

If I remember right, that's pretty much it - particularly in this time frame. Things become a bit more strained after "Lugoj puts the big bite on the Eldest" and many Tzimisce elders are destroyed/diablerized during the anarch revolt.
Of course all of that assumes the timeline moves on as per canon. The Storytelling Cat may have other ideas.

Elena Roșu |

Some of this goes back to Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand.
Basically the Old Clan has the same problem with Vicissitude that they have with infernalism: The Old Clan sees vampires as the dominant top of the food chain, the unnatural rulers over humanity, and they believe that Vicissitude is a kind of possessing spirit. Thus you are giving up your autonomy and authority to an outside force - that makes you a slave rather than a master.
Elders of the Old Clan consider Vicissitude to be a spiritual infection by a kind of paranormal symbiote called a Souleater, but that is Deep Lore and Elena doesn't know anything about that.

Dottore Alexandru Creangâ |

Thanks for the info! Elena, something that might be a humorous start is both of us meeting, and greeting each other as fellow Tzimisce, then later finding out (either from our respective sires or when I use Vicissitude and you are visibly disgusted) the other is one of those Tzimisce.

Elena Roșu |

Dottore Alexandru Creangâ |

In the interest of full disclosure. I decided to slightly change the languages Alexandru knows: I decided that he would more likely know the languages of the medical texts at the medical school than of countries he has never visited. So, I replaced German and English with Greek and Arabic.
Please let me know if this is a problem, and I will change them back.

Dottore Alexandru Creangâ |

@Alexandru Ah, but if it is your goal to bring about the downfall of the Holy Roman Empire, would it not make sense to speak the language of the kingdom (namely, German) so as best to influence its nobility?
[dice=blood]1d10
Too late for me to switch again. I will work with it. It'll be fun!

Dottore Alexandru Creangâ |
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I figured it would be important to know the name of Alexandru's sire as a means of introduction when this formal gathering occurs.
At first, I just made up a name and concept, but then, through the miracle of the internet and the obsessiveness of White Wolf fans at collecting information from various resources into wikis, I found an 8th generation Tzimisce from the same region as my character who was embraced in the correct timeline to be my character's sire. How cool is that?
Alexandru's sire is Mircea Dzardescu.

Dottore Alexandru Creangâ |

A couple questions for Storytelling Cat:
1.) Are Elena and Alexandru assumed to be both familiar with the split in the Tzimisce lines, and the fact that on introduction she named her clan differently from his? I just wasn't sure if this would be something our respective sires would have gone into great detail with us, or if is it a matter of our personal preference for our own characters.
2.) Hypothetically, if Alexandru were using leeches to treat a patient, could he later eat or suck the bloated leeches in order to obtain blood, or would the blood be considered changed or tainted by being drawn by the leeches first?

Dottore Alexandru Creangâ |

I took Tzimisce lore specifically so that I am familiar with the split.
Good to know. I didn't, so it would stand to reason your sire educated you on this point and mine didn't. That will make things interesting.

The Storytelling Cat |
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@Dottore Alexandru:
1) Elena would be, thanks to her putting points into Tzimisce lore. An Intelligence + Occult roll would perhaps allow you to know the difference as well.
2) Regarding leeches, I'll say that method of feeding would yield half the total blood points drained from a patient. So if your leeches took 2 points of blood from a human, if you were to feed on them you'd gain 1 blood point back.