PrC Power (Inactive)

Game Master Azure_Zero

Discussion Thread for OOC

Dotting discussion thread... thanks for the selection, can't wait to get started. :)

Dotting in. Looking forward to the game

Thank you for the invite.

Thank you and hello

Nice to be here with such a formidable party.

We have 2 strong front liners, and a varied support group. This should be fun!

I was really afraid to not get picked due to the strong overlap with Lothorian. I guess we're fire and ice now. I'm overlapping with Beatty, too.

Should and may we adjust our spells known/prepared?

Valessa has fire-forged armor and a fire-forged longsword... so fire spells going off near her should (if I am reading the properties right) just give her sword an extra 1d6 fire damage for a round or two.

Looking forward to this!

Unlike Valessa, Yaz very much does not want to be anywhere near fire spells. He whole heartedly welcomes all the cold damage you can throw at him though.

That's easy enough for Lefty. He can switch energy types on the fly: Fire for Valessa and cold for Yaz!

Tricksters get a lot of hype because they can add sneak attack to some blasts, but it really doesn't come up that often. I wouldn't call him a blaster. He's mostly a skill monkey with some magic to help him be extra skill-y when he scouts ahead, and a few blasts for when he doesn't. The thing is, he's got a wizard's BAB, so he won't always hit.

Check, all are here..

It was very hard to cut it down to 5, so I went with 6.

edit:

Game play is up

Sorry a bit under the weather...

In Op I forgot my house rules, mostly it's positive changes

Cure and inflict spells/potions heal/harm a in static amount.
Light is 10, Moderate is 20, Serious is 30, Critical is 40.

And Change shape as a racial trait is like the like the 3.5 changeling,in that the body changes shape, but not the clothes/gear.
So plate armour can be a bit of a problem and should be assigned a gender, as the torso is different between male and female.

So plate armour can be a bit of a problem and should be assigned a gender, as the torso is different between male and female.

Uh, does that apply to a breastplate as well?

You do realize that boobplate looks good in art but is hideously silly and unrealistic, right? It is basically designed to channel blows right into the heart :-(

I may have to change my magic item selection a little

DM Azure_Zero wrote:

So plate armour can be a bit of a problem and should be assigned a gender, as the torso is different between male and female.

Uh, does that apply to a breastplate as well?

You do realize that boobplate looks good in art but is hideously silly and unrealistic, right? It is basically designed to channel blows right into the heart :-(

I took this to mean more that the fit would be designed with room in mind for your... assets... and that if you tried to wear armor fitted and designed for males that it would be constraining at best, depending on your cup size.

For Valessa this isn't a problem. Gray Maiden plate was designed for females by default, and even if it wasn't it is a full plate subcategory (which, even in the vanilla basic form, is described as having to be fitted for an individual to work properly) so I should be fine.

DM Azure_Zero wrote:

So plate armour can be a bit of a problem and should be assigned a gender, as the torso is different between male and female.

Uh, does that apply to a breastplate as well?

You do realize that boobplate looks good in art but is hideously silly and unrealistic, right? It is basically designed to channel blows right into the heart :-(

I may have to change my magic item selection a little

It does apply to breastplate, and I don't Boob plate as boob plate is stupid.

As the shoulders, rib cage, and ...assets are different.

this house rule only really applies to armour, as belts have notches for resizing, and I rule that magic rings magically resize.
Though a magic armour ability, I think it is resizng I'd rule it as auto-fitting.

Tobar Palar wrote:

DM Azure_Zero wrote:

So plate armour can be a bit of a problem and should be assigned a gender, as the torso is different between male and female.

Uh, does that apply to a breastplate as well?

You do realize that boobplate looks good in art but is hideously silly and unrealistic, right? It is basically designed to channel blows right into the heart :-(

I took this to mean more that the fit would be designed with room in mind for your... assets... and that if you tried to wear armor fitted and designed for males that it would be constraining at best, depending on your cup size.

For Valessa this isn't a problem. Gray Maiden plate was designed for females by default, and even if it wasn't it is a full plate subcategory (which, even in the vanilla basic form, is described as having to be fitted for an individual to work properly) so I should be fine.

On the money, but it'll be more then the assets, it's also be the shoulders and ribcage, and for heavier armour it'll include the hips.

Site is a bit wonky today.

If it continues into tomorrow, I believe we can expect a server down in less then 4 days.

It does apply to breastplate

Ok. I'll change my gear purchases tomorrow sometime (no time right now).

I took this to mean more that the fit would be designed with room in mind for your... assets... and that if you tried to wear armor fitted and designed for males that it would be constraining at best, depending on your cup size.

I'm not trying to change the GMs mind (its his call) but the pedant in me forces me to disagree.

The time honoured tradition for women (there are actually quite a few women in history who served in "all male" armies) was to tightly bind the breasts and then just wear mens clothing. Admittedly at least partialluy because concealing their gender was rather important. It was presumably a little constraining and uncomfortable but they managed just fine.

Breastplates have straps so they can be let in and out fairly easily.

I'm not trying to change the GMs mind (its his call) but the pedant in me forces me to disagree.

The time honoured tradition for women (there are actually quite a few women in history who served in "all male" armies) was to tightly bind the breasts and then just wear mens clothing. Admittedly at least partialluy because concealing their gender was rather important. It was presumably a little constraining and uncomfortable but they managed just fine.

I was merely giving you my interpretation on what the GM had put out, not trying to convince you of its accuracy (either in game or historically). And while you are correct that it is possible to do that, I would argue that 1) it is not an ideal condition to be fighting in, and 2) it probably had more to do with the gender conceal element. Just my two cents on the whole thing.

Valessa is pretty much on the mark in most armies were male only, so it did require concealment, Joan of Arc I think is the only openly female person in a army during that era, and only due to being seen as bless by god by the french.
And tightly binding the chest would of likely been hindering while fighting.

DM Azure_Zero wrote:

It does apply to breastplate

Ok. I'll change my gear purchases tomorrow sometime (no time right now).

I was thinking about this a little and I need more information.

Does this also limit the races that I can turn into while wearing armor? Presumably, a dwarf is AT LEAST as different from a human as a male is from a female. And presumably I can only change height a little bit. Not to mention that in my natural form I have wings (and presumably holes for them).

I'm beginning to think that this ruling makes armor and change shape very, very incompatible.

Even properties like glamored don't help as that is an illusion.

Does this ruling apply to a mithral chain shirt? Right now, that is looking like my only practical alternative (perhaps combined with a breastplate for when I go into the dungeon).

Chain and scale armours are don't have large solid pieces, and are flexible so don't need fitting work to match a different form.

I do rule that glamored armour allows for the appearance of minor differences in physical size(s).

Yeah different races could be a could be a problem with plate armour, as for wings the armour could be designed with hinged plates to protect yet allow for wings.

Given the house rule was mentioned after selection,
I'll just put in a gender lock on plate armour for shape change, leaving more options open and keeping AC as is.

If I'm following you correctly I think that mithral Mountain Pattern Armor is flexible enough to not be an issue (ie, I can wear it and change genders and shape as desired) as long as I don't change my size.

However, I'm assuming that changing my size (ie, to small or large) is utterly impossible while wearing any armor.

Do weapons and buckler resize when I use my change shape?

Sorry to ask so many questions but I need to understand the rules in order to create the character :-(.

Mountain Pattern Armour as I read it is flexible enough to not be an issue.
But size change is a no for armour, weapons, and shields as they will remain the same size.

No, questions are fine since I did mess up a bit in forgetting my house rules.

Apologies if it seems I am posting a lot. Not trying to drown anyone else out.

Nono. That's good!

Not at all, just means the rest of us need to raise our game.

Yeah, post away. Keeps things moving.

I like it when characters reveal their thoughts. If they were all alike, it would be dull. Valessa's dedication to her principles helps define her and make her feel real. It's important to her, even if others don't feel the same.

Happy Easter to any of y'all that celebrate it!

You, too!

Happy Easter, everyone.

I might take time today to watch Cecil B. DeMille's Last Movie
as it is also that time of year.

That and love the historical research and details he put into the movie,
The only thing he didn't like was adding Camels.

Happy Easter, everyone.

I might take time today to watch Cecil B. DeMille's Last Movie
as it is also that time of year.

That and love the historical research and details he put into the movie,
The only thing he didn't like was adding Camels.

Heh, been an age since I saw that movie all the way through. For length and production value it is up there with this film that also stars Charlton Heston.

The TC was on TV yesterday.

Yaz's plan is the same plan he has for every situation. It's probably not a good idea to let Yaz do the planning.

Lefty has an idea. It might not work, but we shouldn't draw much attention. We're in disguise, and we should use our cover names.

Lefty is Telsyn. Zero is Kari.

Might be to late to change names in town.

Was going to say that if we went with that we would have to agree that it was planned out on our way in or something... besides, not like anyone knows who any of us are (at least I would be surprised if someone did).

Who knows if the watchers or others heard your names as you talked?

Names were posted since you entered town, so no revision on names used in past posts, though you can risk it.

Did either of the observers follow Lothorian and company?

Did anyone keep an eye on them to see if they made notes of the group or sent a hidden message to someone else in the area?

Valessa smiles to the young woman, and nods to her companions as they walk out to seek adventure in the other tavern. Casually she keeps an eye on the two folks that Zero and Tobar had mentioned as being likely spies to see if one or more of them had to conveniently leave as well.

So I while I wasn't watching them the whole time, I was keeping an eye on them while most of the party set off (possibly all if Daniel goes too)... I can make a perception check to see if she noticed anything more detailed than them leaving if you think it necessary.

I was hoping to cast a spell for the first time after a month of play, but if it's too risky, we can stay in the slow lane.

When I say risky, I do mean low odds say 1-30% pending variables, but big consequences if caught casting a spell as it'll raise some eyebrows about the group and hope one is not friendly to the Baron.

If I recall there is the conceal spell feat......
Also the silent and still metamagic feats could of covered up casting spells...

The rule is that there will always be risk casting a spell in public, think real world and or out of the box to negate or lessen the risk.

It also helps to pay attention to the environment before casting in public to see how risky and come up with ideas to weaken the risk or negate it.

Happy mother's day to any of y'all that celebrate it.

Happy Mother's Day to everyone!

Lefty will have the Tricky Spells ability next level, which lets him cast stilled, silent spells 3x a day. It'll be easier for him then.

He can just be patient for now and listen to conversations.

Note that post Ultimate Intrigue not even stilled and silence stop spells from having visible manifestations. At least not RAW.

So.... currently we have Lefty, myself, and Tobar all heading to bed to wait for the next day (Lefty on his way back from the other bar, Tobar in bed, my waiting for the results of that sense motive before being similar); Daniel waiting for the remaining folks to come back, Yaz sulking in the other bar, and Zero... at the other bar not being allowed to play dice games.

The horn sounded and (some of us) know that this means that the General has likely begun his siege (unless there happens to be a second army conveniently sieging the place at the same time... cue the dramatic music)

What are we planning on doing next? Kinda feels like we are spinning our wheels.

Sorry, RL has been busy.

To move on, just investigate various places in town and look for a way hidden way in, and no getting local jobs that would take longer then you have to complete the mission.

You have a Number of places to visit that are listed on the Map.
Might also want to take notes on who says what, as they could be hinting something you need to know or should know.

Tobar is going to wander towards the Baron's keep (inside the city) and wander the streets nearby. She is just trying to get a feel for how well it is defended (number of guards, how they're armed and armored, etc) and see who is coming in and out of the keep.