I find it funny how the firt plans presented in a silent assassination involving murdering the dudes entire household.
I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit... it's the only way to be sure
How much experience do I get for causing Golarion's nuclear winter?
I find it funny how the firt plans presented in a silent assassination involving murdering the dudes entire household.I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit... it's the only way to be sure
Four more weeks and out...
Yes yes, very silly ideas. I will try to get into super hooker mode and figure something out
I am a fan of using more subtle techniques. Like carpet bombing the neighborhood.
I know, lets make up fliers with our faces on them, and tie them to bricks we'll throw into his windows and burn "1 week" into his lawn!
Oh yeah. subtle.
In any case i'm giving you guys until the 7th of january to get your plan straightened out. I understand the holidays are hectic and I myself have a project that needs finishing before sunday. Plus my rpgsuperstar work I want to have in. So you have lots of time while I pound my face on the keyboard until somethign relevant comes out.
Ok, so I am going to buy a shovel and dig under his home from the lake, then cause the house to be undermined so that the entire structure falls into the newly formed underground lake sinkhole. Once he is in the lake sinkhole, I will drown him.
In less than three days?
I didn't hear that.
How about we hijack an M1 tank, take out the house, run over a few Hellknights and then I can crash it into a river and swim away.
now you're just being silly. we have a whole week. we construct a balista in front of his house and expect him to walk right in front of it with no guards around to defend himself.
How about a rail gun? I understand they are quite effective for taking out personnel. What is the damage from a chunk of lead traveling at .1C?
You certainly have a plethora of options to choose from with the information available.
My advice?
The one with the least amount of bodies piled up at the end. There's tons of incentives for this beyond what is being talked about.
My vote is behind:
1. Distract
2: Infiltrate
3: Wait
4: Slay
5: Run like buggery
the whisper DC is set so that others cannot eavesdrop on the whispered conversation easily, not so that the recipient cannot hear.
Kind of figured that would be the case but I couldn't resist it either way. But all the same, thanks for the catch.
I've put it here as it's a bit meta, but just wanted to collate thoughts on way forward.
Cafe:
It's snooty - and we are a bunch of oddfellows, so I'd think we'd stick out like a sore thumb. I don't see how this could work unless we get someone into the kitchen and can specifically spike the food the dude was getting.
Ranch:
As suggested by Csiza - best attack vector would be outside the walls on the way to the site. We'd have three targets to eliminate, as we'd need to deal with the bodyguards as well as the mark. Tark suggested that the ground is pretty open, so not sure if we'd be able to set a decent ambush. Could be staged as travelers crossing paths, then turning on them en-masse.
Home:
We've a fair bit of intel, but my best guess currently is the 'sneak in when he's not home then kill him at night' plan.
We needs to make a decision so plot can unfold :)
Spawn would be happy with either a mugging on the way to the Ranch, or a home invasion.
Agreed Spawn. Mugging on the way to the ranch would be the most straightforward but my vote is for the home invasion. Especially if we can pull it off with a bit of flare. Don't know how I'd best describe it IC but we are being judged on our execution (pardon the pun) of the task at hand. Simply murdering someone on the road doesn't really highlight our talents and make us look well skilled or amazing. It simply shows us to be common thugs which might impact future assignments. So my vote is for home invasion.
As a thought, do we want to leave a calling card of some sort so people know what group performed the deed. Say a card with an eye, an ear, a fish, some smoke, and a fist to represent the five of us.
I can put people to sleep in either place.
I'd say a definite no to a calling card.
The second letter stated None are to know who killed him - so leaving any sort of calling card that could be traced is out of bounds I'd think.
I think the home invasion is silly. There's over 10 reasons why just waiting in the basement. Or maybe they're not going to be waiting in the basement. There's over 10 reasons why that plan is very, very bad. First, it doesn't allow all of us to go, we'd just be relying on one dude to get the job done, and if he doesn't, well... we're all screwed because he messed up.
Ambush at the Ranch seems the best way. Candy has some powerful enchantments, hell, we do it right, we might even be able to get the guardsmen to attack each other so as not to have time to react to us killing their boss. That doesn't work, Forbid Action.
*shrug*
I dunno, maybe Tark could let us know if this guy is rolling around in an arrow proof Douche-mobile that won't allow us to snipe from some amount of cover. Scrolls of Silent Image can't be all that hard to find.
Regarding the calling card I agree that we should avoid that.
As far as the house discussion, my only question is why the assumption that only 1 person could go? It seems like the best way to do it would be to have one person get in, yes, but then have that person let the rest of us in. Trojan horse style, minus the giant wooden horse. Someone poses as a servant, sneaks out in the evening to let the rest of us in and boom.
And the idea that he has a basement full of 10 bad things waiting to happen is speculation. It could just as easily contain an unguarded hoard with uber-items that we'll use to decimate his entire staff. Without concrete evidence, trying to plan around pessimism is just as silly as trying to plan around optimism.
We should probably be having this discussion IC, so I will move it to there. Sorry, posted under the wrong alias from my phone earlier.
He does not run around in an arrow proof douchemobile. He walks around with 4 burly looking bodyguards instead.
Where did everyone go? I thought we were going to kill some useless hack.
I'm here. Just had a long weekend, is all.
I'm here. I think things got a little side tracked discussing options. I'm of the opinion that we should just pick a location to try to get this guy and whatever is chosen we make the best of it from there.
3 choices are:
The Arena/Ranch
The Cafe
The House
Given what's already been put out there my vote is The House.
House vote
3rd vote for House makes quorum.
We have to move in tomorrow at the latest to make the deadline.
To give best chance of success - I'd say we infiltrate while he's away with bodyguards by creating a diversion (paid beggars / drunks). Then go in on the opposite side and cross our fingers.
House it is. I do have access to Disguise Self. I could attempt to sneak in and let the rest of you in somehow. That's one option.
Okay, we'll do the house.
Sorry for being gone, guys. Jet lag scatters my brains.
I see we are assaulting the house... le sigh. But, I suppose if candy breaks her neck with her awesome climbing skills it'll all be worth it :P
Sorry for being gone, guys. Jet lag scatters my brains.
I see we are assaulting the house... le sigh. But, I suppose if candy breaks her neck with her awesome climbing skills it'll all be worth it :P
Then it will just be more candy for the rest of us.
Where did everyone go? We have a sleeping person to kill.
+1
Terribly sorry, been a busy couple of days. One game's finally getting into book 2 of an AP, another is entering the actual exciting point of the 2nd book. That and I've been trying to get our house habitable so we dont get kicked out (long story) and I've been trying to make a class. Yeah, sorry. I'll get abck to it.
Just to chime in on the Charm Person debate, while a Munchkiny reading of the spell could follow Psyana's train of thought, in my games I would have this fall on TarkXT's ruling. Yes no one is directly next to the guard or attacking him, but he certainly knows he's about to get ganked. But ultimately it's a DM call on something like this.
Hey - I am trying to keep some of the staff alive so that Spawn does not keep chaining them. Not my fault that the DM made this save.
Well, honestly it really came down to getting greedy. Once you eliminated the patrols it would have taken at least a few minutes for them to notice anything amiss. Now even if he fails his second save things are going to be much more complex.
Well we are only first level - aren't we meant to be a bit incompetent ;)
In the immortal words of a guy I've worked offshore with... "It's about a three ringer now"
Funny thing is in both cases they had a pretty good chance of failing.
Which two cases?
Both guards. The first guard passed his first save, failed the second. The second guard popped out and passed his first save.
Aye - gotcha there. Really any option we take is fraught with the ability to screw up. Either guard making a save; or trying to stealth as a pack.
That's ok though - Gethric probably prefers a straight up fight... at least till he gets killed.
In retrospect the road ambush was likely the bloodiest but simplest way of taking him out - but que sera sera.
Well - back to nap and coup de gras.
In retrospect the road ambush was likely the bloodiest but simplest way of taking him out - but que sera sera.
Next time, listen to the deaf-mute.
My plan was to KO them all while they were asleep. I did not realize that nobody had any non-lethal weapons. C'est la vie.
My plan was to KO them all while they were asleep. I did not realize that nobody had any non-lethal weapons. C'est la vie.
We always have our fists for 1d3+Str nonlethal.
Where is everyone now? Candy is going to dash as the window breaking proves this stuff is t+*@ up, well... and the door slamming in our face, but yeah, I don't want to run into the guy whose been doing all the murder on the way down.