PBP Gameday 2: A-Red's Curse of the Riven Sky
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Daxter
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
Here's my idea for marching order. Basically I want Shinkeer up front because of his perception check and his good AC. Also want Dora near the front so she can charge, and Brom in the back to keep us safe from rear-guard actions. Any comments?
5' corridor:
Shinkeer
Dora
Pallas
Davo
Brom
10' corridor:
Shinkeer Dora
Pallas Davo
Brom
15'+ corridor:
Shinkeer Pallas Dora
Davo Brom
Gnome
What, I'm not allowed to use Brom as my mount?
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
Also, do we know (or could we find out) if we'll be traveling above 15,000 feet during our journey?
Female Halfling (Taldan) Herald 14 | hp 114/114 | Init +10 | AC 29, T 17, FF 23 | CMB +8, CMD 21 | F +13 R +16 W +16 | Prcptn +14, SM +8. Song 0/21 tactics 0/2 Brd 9/Cavr 3/Ora1/BatHrld1 {p} | Large Rusty 73/73 AC26+Ride+1 {p}
Dora is not a charger build, so if she is blocking others, she is fine in the middle or the back.
Male Human(Amazing)
Yea, it's not above 15000 feet.
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
Dora D Asplora wrote: Dora is not a charger build, so if she is blocking others, she is fine in the middle or the back. I'd rather have the guy with Improved Uncanny Dodge at the back if he can't be at the front, but I take your point.
This brings up an interesting question. What will folks likely be doing in combat? Since our abilities overlap somewhat, it might be useful for us to figure out what we tend to do in combat situations before we actually get into one.
Male Half-Orc Unchained Savage Barbarian 13
You can't afford me gnome.
Marching order sounds good. Brom prefers to be in the back ranks. He's a psuedo-spring attacker.
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
DM Amazing Red wrote: Yea, it's not above 15000 feet. Good. Even if we're only between 5,000 and 15,000 feet, we still have to deal with escalating Fort saves every hour or be fatigued, and that includes our mounts. Is it worth it to spend a month at that altitude to get acclimated? Magic to get around this problem is sadly very expensive, especially if we have to supply it for all of our mounts.
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
The other option is that we scry on the giant and then pay someone to teleport us there. We don't have any of the giant's belongings, do we? I'm assuming the book does not belong to him?
Male Human(Amazing)
No, you do not have any of his things. Also, it is not above 5000 feet so don't worry about the enviromentals.
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
DM Amazing Red wrote: No, you do not have any of his things. Also, it is not above 5000 feet so don't worry about the enviromentals. OK, well that makes it a whole lot less difficult!
EDIT: Also, should we pool our money and invest in a teleport scroll? Might be a good backup.
Gnome
Hey, maybe Davo has pull with Brom's mistress?
AC33/Tch29/Flat29/CMD43(45 vs grapple & trip)||HP117[117]|Fort:+10;Ref:+11;Will:+19|Percept.+27(+29 for traps, +31 if in stone, trapspotter)|SenMot.+14|Init.+3 Human (Kellid/Tian) Monk (Terracotta Monk) 10 Sorcerer (Wildblooded) 5
Sorry, have bit of a bug and haven't really been able to get off the couch.
Shin has about 2,800 in coin if something like that was wanted.
As far as combat, Shin mixes up melee and spells depending on the situation. He neither a blaster nor a big hitter.
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
I tend to spend the first round or two buffing myself or others and then wade in melee, all the way trying to stay next to at least one other person so that I can use my bodyguard ability.
Male Half-Orc Unchained Savage Barbarian 13
Oh, I just noticed you're Taldan.
I suppose that's possible,
Gnome
I'm surprised Brom'mash isn't part of the Ulfen guard.
As to combat, song + ally buff the first round, followed by some sort of monster debuff (crushing despair, hold monster, calm emotions, hideous laughter) - assuming they have a mind. I do have a lesser threnodic rod for undead. I'm happy to dimension door fighter types into full attack range, but given the mobility of the fighter types in this group not sure it's necessary.
Female Halfling (Taldan) Herald 14 | hp 114/114 | Init +10 | AC 29, T 17, FF 23 | CMB +8, CMD 21 | F +13 R +16 W +16 | Prcptn +14, SM +8. Song 0/21 tactics 0/2 Brd 9/Cavr 3/Ora1/BatHrld1 {p} | Large Rusty 73/73 AC26+Ride+1 {p}
Dora also usually leads with song + party buff (haste, tactics etc).
She and Rusty can attack as well, but not big hitters. For flying creatures she has a bow (mainly vs outsiders) or she can pull a griffon out of her sleeve.
AC33/Tch29/Flat29/CMD43(45 vs grapple & trip)||HP117[117]|Fort:+10;Ref:+11;Will:+19|Percept.+27(+29 for traps, +31 if in stone, trapspotter)|SenMot.+14|Init.+3 Human (Kellid/Tian) Monk (Terracotta Monk) 10 Sorcerer (Wildblooded) 5
So what happened to Boots?
Female Halfling (Taldan) Herald 14 | hp 114/114 | Init +10 | AC 29, T 17, FF 23 | CMB +8, CMD 21 | F +13 R +16 W +16 | Prcptn +14, SM +8. Song 0/21 tactics 0/2 Brd 9/Cavr 3/Ora1/BatHrld1 {p} | Large Rusty 73/73 AC26+Ride+1 {p}
Rusty is really Boots 2.0 (he went to large size at 7th level advancement, so I figured even Boots could not eat that much). I was going to name him Clifford, but figured that would be a pushing it.
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
Pallas will buy some trail rations and snowshoes, but it otherwise ready to go.
Gnome
Good call with the name. Besides, everyone knows only summoners and eidolons get a pass for gross trademark violation, amirite?
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
Does anyone besides Shin have an opinion about buying that scroll of teleport for the group? It's 1125 gp total, or 225 gp a piece. Might be nice to have in a pinch.
Male Half-Orc Unchained Savage Barbarian 13
Brom's pretty poor right now but he'll chip in if he's got it.
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
Also, Red, I know you have given me your ruling on this, but I thought I'd argue my case a bit more on the Bodyguard feat by proxy, in case you are open to being convinced. :)
Post by James Jacobs
Intent of the Author of the feat
Male Human(Amazing)
So the intent is to allow you to block ranged attacks? If that was the case, why not errata it/faq it?
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
Personally, I would not allow it against ranged attacks, only melee attacks. Believe me, I understand both sides of the issue and am happy to abide by the "must be adjacent to defendee and able to attack person attacking him/her" ruling.
Male Human(Amazing)
And the AC quickly becomes better than modest with a little investment. He also doesn't mention any limitations on what ranged attacks you can bodyguard so with his wording, you could bodyguard the boulders that may or may not be thrown at you in the near future. Which is silly. Though in our homegame to save time, we just said it auto-worked no rolling required.
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
Davo, I'm a little unsure about the naturalist ability. Does it provide those bonuses against one type of creature or against all types of creatures we are facing?
Gnome
It would be against all critters we are fighting. I need to identify each one seperately, but with my loremaster I take 10 for a min CR ~18
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
OK, thanks.
The stacking of modifiers in this party is kinda crazy, but that's not surprising that four of five PCs are bards!
Male Half-Orc Unchained Savage Barbarian 13
Brom didn't even invoke his bardness there.
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
Brom'mash of Taldor wrote: Brom didn't even invoke his bardness there. Well, in his defense, Brom didn't even minor in bard, he just took a class on it freshman year.
Male Half-Orc Unchained Savage Barbarian 13
Male Human(Amazing)
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
I know that we can't "activate" the book, but has anyone actually tried reading it?
Male Human(Amazing)
You mean before you got it? To verify it's legitness?
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
Male Human(Amazing)
Yes the society has verified it's authenticity.
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
So are we spending the night here or not?
Male Half-Orc Unchained Savage Barbarian 13
How far is our destination? I don't see why we'd need to rest.
Male Human(Amazing)
Total a hundred miles from the castle to the Hill Giant camp.
Male Half-Orc Unchained Savage Barbarian 13
Well we're going to end up camping on the road anyway. Let's leave now.
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
OK, sounds good. Let's leave then. Any last suggestions from the giant about the giants?
Female Halfling (Taldan) Herald 14 | hp 114/114 | Init +10 | AC 29, T 17, FF 23 | CMB +8, CMD 21 | F +13 R +16 W +16 | Prcptn +14, SM +8. Song 0/21 tactics 0/2 Brd 9/Cavr 3/Ora1/BatHrld1 {p} | Large Rusty 73/73 AC26+Ride+1 {p}
Dora climbs atop Rusty. And nods with a bow to their host.
"Thank you for the information. And the potions. We shall return...and with good news, I am sure. . "
Gnome
I might have stolen that approach to diplomacy from the 13th warrior...
Male Half-Orc Unchained Savage Barbarian 13
Male Human (Keleshite) Warrior for Sarenrae 12 (HP 102/102 | AC: 37* T:25* FF:25 | CMD 31 | Fort:+11* Ref:+19* Will:+12* | Init+9* | Perception+11* | Effects: Insp C +6, Fly, Haste, Good Hope, Mirror Image, Abyss (-4 to Int, Wis, Cha rolls), Dance of 23 S, Discordant Voice
Sorry, I've been very busy with work this last week or so, but I'm back now! Should have let you guys know ...
Male Half-Orc Unchained Savage Barbarian 13
It's alright. If we were really worried, I would have harassed you via other channels. =P
Gnome
Pallas is heading up the interrogation, correct?
Female Halfling (Taldan) Herald 14 | hp 114/114 | Init +10 | AC 29, T 17, FF 23 | CMB +8, CMD 21 | F +13 R +16 W +16 | Prcptn +14, SM +8. Song 0/21 tactics 0/2 Brd 9/Cavr 3/Ora1/BatHrld1 {p} | Large Rusty 73/73 AC26+Ride+1 {p}
Yes...with lots of auto assists from our troupe of minstrels
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