GM Silbeg's #6-10 The Wounded Wisp (RPG) (Inactive)

Game Master Silbeg

The Wounded Wisp, Subtier 2
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Male Human (Minnesotan) GM 5 Gallows of Madness |Midnight Marauder

This is the discussion thread.

For the new folks... some threads to check out that will help:

Painlord's guide

Doomed Hero's guide

Plus, Damien has some good info on his user profile

This tagline template is VERY useful to set up your PbP tagline so that it has the vital information at a glance.

I'll be adding more stuff to the campaign information, once I have the time.

Grand Lodge

Female Half-Orc Unchained Barbarian 10 | HP: 125/125 | AC: 20 (11 Tch) | CMB: +16, CMD: 27 | F: +14, R: +7, W: +6 | Init: +1 | Perc: +13, SM: +1 | Speed 40ft | Dailies: 28/28 Rage rounds | Active Conditions: none

Good guides - thank you

Dark Archive

Human (Minnesotan) Rules Lawyer 4, GM 5!

FYI - Ray, it'd be best if you were posting in the alias for your character. Like Marc and AJ are doing :D

The Exchange

Male NG Human (Tian-Shu) Fighter (Archer) 1 | HP: 11/11 | AC: 19 (14 Tch, 15 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 17 | F: +3, R: +4, W: +2 | Init: +4 | Perc: +7, SM: +2 | Speed 30ft/20ft | Daily Abilities: none | Arrows: St-37, B-40, Fl-20, Wh-20 | Active conditions: Unconcious, Stable

PapaSteve (aka Cyrus the Flea) checking in, if you have room for me! If we still need to recruit, I might have a guy who would be new to PbP (that I am strong-arming to come to GenCon next year) who could join us. If you need to open recruitment, let me know and I will bug him about it.

Grand Lodge

Female Half-Orc Unchained Barbarian 10 | HP: 125/125 Temp HP: 20/20| AC: 18 (9 Tch) | CMB: +18, CMD: 25 | F: +14, R: +7, W: +8 | Init: +1 | Perc: +13, SM: +1 | Speed 40ft | Active Conditions: Rage, Stance, Smasher

"TEACH RAY HOW TO ACT!!!" can i hulk smash him please?

Dark Archive

Male Human (Chelaxian) Level 4, #-5

Damien here. I'm happy to join with Methodios, aka one of Dralneen's many whipping boys... but if someone else wants in and you don't have space, I will happily step away.

How many have you asked, Jack?


Male Human (Minnesotan) GM 5 Gallows of Madness |Midnight Marauder

total of 4, but I don't know if Keith was even interested. Marc, AJ, and Ray are all in. Looks like with Jin Shu Ping we've got two seats available, so it is totally up to you!

Dark Archive

Male Human (Chelaxian) Level 4, #-5

Cool. I'll wait to see who else dots in. I can't turn down a PbP run by friends (or so it seems), but I do have a lot on right now! I'll wait to see who dots in with what first and (again) if you need one, Methodios is there.

Dark Archive

Male Human (Chelaxian) Level 4, #-5

Looks like I'm in. Wow. Less than 24 hours after saying "I'll wait". Man, I'm ridiculous sometimes.

In any case, I can happily step out at any time if more want in.

This is going to get weird playing with someone else who shares Lort's avatar!

Grand Lodge

Female Half-Orc Unchained Barbarian 10 | HP: 125/125 | AC: 20 (11 Tch) | CMB: +16, CMD: 27 | F: +14, R: +7, W: +6 | Init: +1 | Perc: +13, SM: +1 | Speed 40ft | Dailies: 28/28 Rage rounds | Active Conditions: none

nothing wrong with impatience. I find it reassuring when others are as impatient as I. :D

The Exchange

Male NG Human (Tian-Shu) Fighter (Archer) 1 | HP: 11/11 | AC: 19 (14 Tch, 15 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 17 | F: +3, R: +4, W: +2 | Init: +4 | Perc: +7, SM: +2 | Speed 30ft/20ft | Daily Abilities: none | Arrows: St-37, B-40, Fl-20, Wh-20 | Active conditions: Unconcious, Stable

Unless you have someone already lined up, I have a 6th for us. I am strong-arming my friend from back home to start PbP. he is an Avid gamer, but has only dabbled in Pathfinder and PFS. I plan on spending some time with him tonight on the phone to get his account and profile all set up.

Let me know if that is all ok!

The Exchange

Male CG Human Skald 1 | HP: 11/11 | AC: 19 (12 Tch, 17 Fl) | CMB: +2, CMD: 14 | F: +4, R: +2, W: +0 | Init: +4 | Perc: +2, SM: -2 | Speed 20ft | Active conditions: None

Looks like this party needs Logg- a butterfly sting skald. Stats coming this afternoon.

Grand Lodge

Female Half-Orc Unchained Barbarian 10 | HP: 125/125 | AC: 20 (11 Tch) | CMB: +16, CMD: 27 | F: +14, R: +7, W: +6 | Init: +1 | Perc: +13, SM: +1 | Speed 40ft | Dailies: 28/28 Rage rounds | Active Conditions: none

@PapaSteve - Keith has declined this round - so bring in your buddy and let's get this show on the road!


Male Human (Minnesotan) GM 5 Gallows of Madness |Midnight Marauder

@Steve, for sure... invite away. Especially since the point of this scenario is to expand the PbP group, or at least to show people what it can be like (man, am I putting pressure on myself, or what, with this!)


Male Human (Minnesotan) GM 5 Gallows of Madness |Midnight Marauder

FYI - I'll post the "briefing" for this, as soon as everyone has dotted in, and has their characters posted.

For those using Hero Lab, it is really easy to add your stats... just export the statblock using "BBCode" -- and then paste it into your character profile. That's how I tend to do it... see Gunari Maximoff, Warpriest of Cayden Cailean

Grand Lodge

Female Half-Orc Unchained Barbarian 10 | HP: 125/125 | AC: 20 (11 Tch) | CMB: +16, CMD: 27 | F: +14, R: +7, W: +6 | Init: +1 | Perc: +13, SM: +1 | Speed 40ft | Dailies: 28/28 Rage rounds | Active Conditions: none

HeroLab is the Devil!

but it was probably 1000% easier than manually creating the syntax the first time. Oh well - copy paste from here on.

The Exchange

Male NG Human (Tian-Shu) Fighter (Archer) 1 | HP: 11/11 | AC: 19 (14 Tch, 15 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 17 | F: +3, R: +4, W: +2 | Init: +4 | Perc: +7, SM: +2 | Speed 30ft/20ft | Daily Abilities: none | Arrows: St-37, B-40, Fl-20, Wh-20 | Active conditions: Unconcious, Stable

Just FYI for you Silbeg - our 6th will be joining us this evening.

Grand Lodge

Male NG Half-Elf Bard 1 | HP: 9/9 | AC: 14 (11 Tch, 13 Fl) | CMB: +1, CMD: 12 | F: +1, R: +3, W: +3 | Init: +3 | Perc: +9, SM: +7 | Speed 30ft | Bardic Performance (rds) 7/7 | Spells: 1st 2/2 | Active conditions: None.

Hey, this is Steve's friend, Aaron. I don't really know what I'm doing but Steve is going to get me started.

The Exchange

Male NG Human (Tian-Shu) Fighter (Archer) 1 | HP: 11/11 | AC: 19 (14 Tch, 15 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 17 | F: +3, R: +4, W: +2 | Init: +4 | Perc: +7, SM: +2 | Speed 30ft/20ft | Daily Abilities: none | Arrows: St-37, B-40, Fl-20, Wh-20 | Active conditions: Unconcious, Stable

Welcome! We will get it figured out, you should be good to start Silbeg!

Dark Archive

Male Human (Chelaxian) Level 4, #-5

Welcome Steve's friend, Aaron! Great to have you on board. Awesome to see that your tagline is in order. ;-)

Damien here, went to GenCon with Steve. Enjoy the posting... I'm assuming Steve has sent you links to all our favorite PbP guides?


Male Human (Minnesotan) GM 5 Gallows of Madness |Midnight Marauder

Hello, Aaron!

If Steve is helping you, you will be in great hands.
Gonna look over the characters, and get started tomorrow.


Male Human (Minnesotan) GM 5 Gallows of Madness |Midnight Marauder

Still waiting on a few characters to be set up.

The Exchange

Male CG Human Skald 1 | HP: 11/11 | AC: 19 (12 Tch, 17 Fl) | CMB: +2, CMD: 14 | F: +4, R: +2, W: +0 | Init: +4 | Perc: +2, SM: -2 | Speed 20ft | Active conditions: None

I am a true barbarian when it comes to forums and PbP, maybe I'll gain literacy next level.

Grand Lodge

Male NG Half-Elf Bard 1 | HP: 9/9 | AC: 14 (11 Tch, 13 Fl) | CMB: +1, CMD: 12 | F: +1, R: +3, W: +3 | Init: +3 | Perc: +9, SM: +7 | Speed 30ft | Bardic Performance (rds) 7/7 | Spells: 1st 2/2 | Active conditions: None.

I've looked through the links at the top of the forum from GM.Silbeg. I'm sure I will mess up something with formatting but I should get the gist soon enough. I need to do some reading on Golarion so I know a little bit about the region we will be in.


Male Human (Minnesotan) GM 5 Gallows of Madness |Midnight Marauder

It is all good, Theron. We're all learning together, or so I like to say.

'What does that mean? Do they realize you are full of crap? Why am I posting this?'

Grand Lodge

Female Half-Orc Unchained Barbarian 10 | HP: 125/125 | AC: 20 (11 Tch) | CMB: +16, CMD: 27 | F: +14, R: +7, W: +6 | Init: +1 | Perc: +13, SM: +1 | Speed 40ft | Dailies: 28/28 Rage rounds | Active Conditions: none

Bored. So bored. I bet i can take Logg. chop him up like timbre.

"Where this Valsin!? Need smash. Is it Mor'taugh's fault? He the slow one?!!"

Lady BroKahn seems to be keeping her temper very well atm......

Grand Lodge

Female Half-Orc Unchained Barbarian 10 | HP: 125/125 | AC: 20 (11 Tch) | CMB: +16, CMD: 27 | F: +14, R: +7, W: +6 | Init: +1 | Perc: +13, SM: +1 | Speed 40ft | Dailies: 28/28 Rage rounds | Active Conditions: none

in all seriousness - when do you think you want to start Silbeg?

Dark Archive

Human (Minnesotan) Rules Lawyer 4, GM 5!

Would have been 2 hours ago if the paizo site wouldn't have been down. Up now.

Dark Archive

Male Human (Chelaxian) Level 4, #-5

Changed my avatar. The flowers and weediness were actually affecting my posts. I'll let some others ask questions, but I've got 1-2 more just in case you don't. ;-)

Dark Archive

Male Human (Chelaxian) Level 4, #-5

My sincere apologies, but I have also just realized that Methodios' online profile is not yet at level 2. I will try my hardest to update this before midday, but all of my Hero Lab files that came with me to GenCon have dropbox conflicts now (I sorted Lort out, but no others yet).

Grand Lodge

Female Half-Orc Unchained Barbarian 10 | HP: 125/125 | AC: 20 (11 Tch) | CMB: +16, CMD: 27 | F: +14, R: +7, W: +6 | Init: +1 | Perc: +13, SM: +1 | Speed 40ft | Dailies: 28/28 Rage rounds | Active Conditions: none

keep asking the questions. the only one who hasn't had input is marc so dont wait on him.


Male Human (Minnesotan) GM 5 Gallows of Madness |Midnight Marauder

If someone stops him, Dreng will still answer questions.

Dark Archive

Male Human (Chelaxian) Level 4, #-5

Methodios is all leveled up now. I recovered the Hero Lab file from before GenCon (I didn't apply any GenCon chronicles to him) so we're all good now.

I would like to take the slow advancement track for Methodios though, please. I'll remind you at chronicle time.

Again, sorry about the lack of update (he leveled up to 3 like ages ago and I didn't realize I hadn't sorted out the forum stuff).

Main changes:

  • HP: 20
  • CMB: +6
  • CMD: 18
  • Fort save: +5
  • Ref save: +5
  • Perception: +8
  • Sense Motive: +8

Also, in Hero Lab I had marked down to buy the following this scenario:

  • Masterwork tool (Profession, sailor) - 50gp
  • Masterwork Composite Longbow (Str +3) - 2PP (700gp)

Let me know if I have to wait for that or if we can retcon those to the beginning of the scenario. Thanks again!


Male Human (Minnesotan) GM 5 Gallows of Madness |Midnight Marauder
Methodios wrote:
Again, sorry about the lack of update (he leveled up to 3 2 like ages ago and I didn't realize I hadn't sorted out the forum stuff).

Fixed that for you, I hope.

No problem having the items... no encounters have happened yet.


Male Human (Minnesotan) GM 5 Gallows of Madness |Midnight Marauder
Lady BroKhan wrote:

"Beeeeelch." Lady BroKahn sets her beer down. "Rush to the beer. Nothing wrong with that."

Mor'targh and Lady BroKahn are level 2. If Methodios is 2 as well, we are 1.5 w/ 6 players

Missed that, because Marc hadn't posted his build. Taking that into consideration, do you want to play at tier 2 or tier 1? I'd probably recommend the latter, since there won't be much challenge at tier 1 for this group.

Also, who has played this scenario before?

Thanks!

Dark Archive

Male Human (Chelaxian) Level 4, #-5

Yes, level 2. Typo. Tier 1 is fine by me, but did you mean to recommend the former?

I have run but not played this before. My memory is very hazy though!

Grand Lodge

Male NG Half-Elf Bard 1 | HP: 9/9 | AC: 14 (11 Tch, 13 Fl) | CMB: +1, CMD: 12 | F: +1, R: +3, W: +3 | Init: +3 | Perc: +9, SM: +7 | Speed 30ft | Bardic Performance (rds) 7/7 | Spells: 1st 2/2 | Active conditions: None.

I think Tier 2 should be fine, except it doesn't look like we have much of a healer in this group. Looks like lots of firepower though, so in my inexperienced opinion we should be good with it.

Dark Archive

Human (Minnesotan) Rules Lawyer 4, GM 5!
Methodios wrote:

Yes, level 2. Typo. Tier 1 is fine by me, but did you mean to recommend the former?

I have run but not played this before. My memory is very hazy though!

Yes, I meant tier 2... BRAIN DAMAGE!

Grand Lodge

Female Half-Orc Unchained Barbarian 10 | HP: 125/125 Temp HP: 20/20| AC: 18 (9 Tch) | CMB: +18, CMD: 25 | F: +14, R: +7, W: +8 | Init: +1 | Perc: +13, SM: +1 | Speed 40ft | Active Conditions: Rage, Stance, Smasher

Clearly the Challenge must come to us!

we should be tier 2 yes. and i've played it twice at cotn

The Exchange

Male NG Human (Tian-Shu) Fighter (Archer) 1 | HP: 11/11 | AC: 19 (14 Tch, 15 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 17 | F: +3, R: +4, W: +2 | Init: +4 | Perc: +7, SM: +2 | Speed 30ft/20ft | Daily Abilities: none | Arrows: St-37, B-40, Fl-20, Wh-20 | Active conditions: Unconcious, Stable

Yea, This is a fresh faced character, but I don't doubt we will do just fine in tier 2. Since this is a level 1, playing in tier 2 doesn't preclude me from playing it again right?

And this is my first time playing this scenario

Dark Archive

Human (Minnesotan) Rules Lawyer 4, GM 5!

So 50% say tier two, so unless I hear a strong opinion from ray we are gonna be tier 2.

Grand Lodge

Female Half-Orc Unchained Barbarian 10 | HP: 125/125 | AC: 20 (11 Tch) | CMB: +16, CMD: 27 | F: +14, R: +7, W: +6 | Init: +1 | Perc: +13, SM: +1 | Speed 40ft | Dailies: 28/28 Rage rounds | Active Conditions: none

you can play this scenario once and only once at tier 2, and unlimited at tier 1. -based solely on your character level not on difficulty

Grand Lodge

Female Half-Orc Unchained Barbarian 10 | HP: 125/125 | AC: 20 (11 Tch) | CMB: +16, CMD: 27 | F: +14, R: +7, W: +6 | Init: +1 | Perc: +13, SM: +1 | Speed 40ft | Dailies: 28/28 Rage rounds | Active Conditions: none

Jack - One thing has come to my attention that might be odd - the Skald rage song is a morale bonus to str/con, and the unchained barbarian rage is an untyped bonus to hit/damage... so they will both work on me in combat is my understanding (and basic forum scourging agrees). Just an fyi and an opening to refute before it matters ;)

Dark Archive

Male Human (Chelaxian) Level 4, #-5

Tier 2, obviously. Methodios would have it no other way.

The Exchange

Male CG Human Skald 1 | HP: 11/11 | AC: 19 (12 Tch, 17 Fl) | CMB: +2, CMD: 14 | F: +4, R: +2, W: +0 | Init: +4 | Perc: +2, SM: -2 | Speed 20ft | Active conditions: None

Tier 2 sounds good. This is my first time through, might as well do it right.

Dark Archive

Male CN Half Orc (“Taldan”) Sorcerer (FIRE!!!!) 7 | HP: 44/44| AC: 13 15 (12 Tch, 11 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 15 | F: +5, R: +6, W: +8 | Init: +2 | Perc: +4, SM: +1 | Speed 30ft | Elemental Ray: 7/7, Orc Ferocity 1/1 Day | Spells: 1st 7/8 ; 2nd 7/7; 3rd 5/5 | Active conditions: Noble. Mage Armor

I have a strong opinion. For tier 2!


Male Human (Minnesotan) GM 5 Gallows of Madness |Midnight Marauder

Sounds good to me..on all cases.

I would have been surprised if the skald song didn't stack, in any case it is a boost to the stat, not the attack. The bonus to hit and damage is still a strength bonus.

Dark Archive

Human (Minnesotan) Rules Lawyer 4, GM 5!

I'll try and get a larger post out tonight, but I need a keyboard for that

My iPad is getting slow, again.

Dark Archive

Male Human (Chelaxian) Level 4, #-5
GM.Silbeg wrote:
I would have been surprised if the skald song didn't stack, in any case it is a boost to the stat, not the attack. The bonus to hit and damage is still a strength bonus.

Chris B and I hashed this out (and some other things) in exactitude a while back when he first switched his barbarian to unchained (playing alongside a Skald). They do stack in RAW, but I believe not in RAI. However, we're playing PFS, so RAI can go take a very f*cking long walk down wintery lane. I just checked the pre-GenCon errata for ACG (none exists for PU) and there's no nerf to that. So... my summary:

When a Skald begins an inspired rage song:
(I'm talking about unchained barbarians below)

If the barbarian is not already in a rage:

  • They may simply take on the inspired rage. In that case, they must accept the inspired rage's bonus and cannot use their own because it says: may use the Strength, Constitution, and Will saving throw bonuses, as well as AC penalties, based on her own ability and level instead of those from the skald (still suffering no fatigue after the inspired rage ends).
  • They can ignore the inspired rage and not accept it.
  • At any point thereafter, the barbarian can enter their own rage (actually, this is regardless of barbarian type). It even specifically says: However, inspired rage does not allow the ally to activate abilities dependent on other rage class abilities, such as rage powers, blood casting, or bloodrager bloodlines; the ally must activate her own rage class ability in order to use these features. (Note: this was before unchained, so again, I don't think it was RAI to double-dip on the rage bonuses, just possible to activate a barbarian rage during inspired rage in order to use rage abilities).
  • If the barbarian ends their rage, while inspired rage is still going they gain the fatigued condition for 1 minute.

If the barbarian is already in a rage:

  • Apply the morale bonuses granted by inspired rage in addition to the existing rage, if the barbarian chooses to accept it (and why wouldn't you?).
  • They can ignore the inspired rage and not accept it.
  • If the barbarian ends their rage, while inspired rage is still going they gain the fatigued condition for 1 minute.

FYI, the bonus to Will saves from the unchained barbarian is untyped and so will stack with the inspired rage will save bonus (and... well, everything). Similarly, be sure to take both AC penalties.

As a further FYI, inspired rage says nothing about not being able to enter it while being fatigued (so you can enter it while fatigued), but neither does it clear the fatigued condition - so you'll be fatigued and inspired raging all at once.

Chris and I have a gentlemen's agreement not to stack things in Reign of Winter (but also to allow him the unchained bonuses in place of the inspired rage - which, as above, is one option you don't have in RAW), but that ain't PFS. Stack away. Eek out every advantage you can. It's you vs John Compton baby. His avatar is even that of an Aspis Agent in disguise. Don't believe me? John Compton's avatar vs Generic Aspis Agent #1. Coincidence? I think not! Sic 'im Pathfinders!

Hmm....

You know you play too much PbP when...

You have conspiracy theories related to someone's avatar and some other random avatar that you found.

The Exchange

Male CG Human Skald 1 | HP: 11/11 | AC: 19 (12 Tch, 17 Fl) | CMB: +2, CMD: 14 | F: +4, R: +2, W: +0 | Init: +4 | Perc: +2, SM: -2 | Speed 20ft | Active conditions: None

Interesting.

Quote:
They may simply take on the inspired rage. In that case, they must accept the inspired rage's bonus and cannot use their own because it says: may use the Strength, Constitution, and Will saving throw bonuses, as well as AC penalties, based on her own ability and level instead of those from the skald (still suffering no fatigue after the inspired rage ends).

I took this to mean that someone could accept inspired rage and use their own rage bonuses with the added benefit of being able to chose to accept rage on a per round basis without fatigue. Essentially adding rounds to one's rages per day.

I assumed one couldn't double up on unchained rage and inspired rage, but a lot of things don't work how I think they should.

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