Welcome back!
Good to be back!
First two player dots to the pregens!
Yeah! Very excited to see a rage prophet in action!
I know a local guy who has one (at least one in progress-not sure if it's high enough level) but he hasn't been able to make it to PFS on Monday nights this semester.
We seem to be missing Raphael and Weiman. I'll send them another message.
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Played a Rage Prophet in Curse of the Crimson Throne, but only becase that was our last Rolled Stats game, and I had a 100% legitimate "No stats under 16" build and didn't want to cheese hardcore with it, so I build a "terrible, but functional build on paper. It ended up being situations like the following:
"Oh no a ghost! Nobody has Ghost Touch weapons!"
*looks at ability earned last level, allowing 2 rounds of rage to equal ghost touch armor and weapons* "UGH, FRIGGIN RAGE PROPHET!"
Wash, rinse, repeat. I was pretty much immune to an endgame wizard, thanks to Artifact and oracle curse powers.
Huh. I wonder if it's the end to a multi-season trilogy a la the Among series.
John Compton is all about tying up the loose ends of the first few seasons and bringing back key NPCs so they're not just 'one-shot' but more recurring. It's been a while since I've played this one, I can't recall if there's anything at the end to come back to. I guess we'll see.
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I've heard atrocious things about Among the Gods in continuity confusion, which is a shame considering the greatness of the first two (though it was only one Faction Mission NPC that made those great.) That was before Compton, so its a moot point, but still a point.
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Among the Gods is a fine scenario on its own but you're right-it's a little hard to see the connection, especially from the player's point of view.
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I.e. If it doesn't have Hustavan, what's the point?
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Disclaimer: The internet told me Hustavan wasn't in it. If he is, then shame on you, internet. Baronet Hernando Ruiz didn't blackmail him for nothing! He did it for Taldor!
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Since they don't count for prestige anymore, EF doesn't hand them out unless requested.
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Correct. In real life I always bring them with me but I have found that 95% of people either don't want them or want to look at them only to see if they include some advanced knowledge (which I'm ok with). Over PbP I usually just don't take the time to post them unless someone requests it.
You're welcome to do it for flavor or completely ignore it; reading it doesn't bind you to it since they don't matter any more.
Gem in the Empire's Crown,
My mother told me tales of Jistkan golems when I was a child to frighten me, always suggesting they could turn up anywhere. I dismissed these tales long ago, but recently I attended a lecture on the Jistka Imperium in Oppara. For the most part, I found it dreadfully boring, but the wine afterwards was to die for. The lecturer described the Jistka as having great magical prowess that enabled them to transport their mechanical behemoths over great distances using teleportation magic. While you find yourselves knee-deep in the mire of Rachikan, look for any evidence of this magic; just think of what it could do for our navy!
It seems lost relics are all the fashion this season, and I am very interested in adding a specific piece of history to my collection. If you happen to find any Jistkan pottery fragments, specifically of religious connotation, please bring them to me.
For the Eternal Empire of Taldor!
Baron Jacquo Dalsine
I'll be leaving for a few days in the mountains tomorrow, back on New Year's Eve. I'm expecting limited connectivity and computer time, so will be pretty quiet until next year. Happy New Year to all!
Sorry guys; about to leave for Chicago so I probably won't be able to update until tomorrow afternoon/night.
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Just to note: the morlock is out of sight for now. Ignore the "M" on the top of the pillar, that's to denote his starting position but on these old maps I can't get rid of markers like that without significant photoshop skills which I lack.
Are you using the "Printscreen on the PDF" method or the "copy the 'background' image to MS paint/image processor of your choice" method?
I usually copy the image to paint and edit it there, which works. And admittedly that may have worked here but it adds an extra step when I could just take a snapshot to copy-paste to Drive.
Some of the older maps aren't layered though so when you copy-paste the background image everything comes with. I think that was the issue here.
It might be but I didn't feel like redoing it after I had already copied it. Not like it's a trap or anything.
EF, I just realized that this will be my 4th level 7 pregen chronicle so I'll have to decide who else to apply it to once we finish. Just wanted to give you a heads up while I thought of it.
I think you can still apply it to the same character even though they will be 8 when they receive it. I don't think there's an issue with apply the pregen credit later, the real problem is applying it earlier than the level of the pregen (e.g. playing a level 7 pregen in a 5-9 you can not apply it to a level 5 or 6 character; similarly playing a level 4 pregen in a 3-7 or 1-5 you have to wait until the character reaches level 4 to apply it). I'm not positive on that though, you may need to check the Guide. Or make a messageboard inquiry about it if it's not in there.
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If I recall correctly*, playing a 4th level pregen in a 1-5 would mean applying a chronicle immediately as appropriate for a 1st level character.
In this case, you would just apply this chronicle as 8.1, just like GM or AP credit applied en masse.
*To simulate this chance, roll 1d3. On a 1, I am mistaken. On a 2, I'm only partially right. On a 3, I am somehow correct.
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Hmmm, I'll think about it then once I find time to look into it.
I think you can still apply it to the same character even though they will be 8 when they receive it.
This was my understanding too. I hope it's right, since this will be the 4th pregen credit of this level that I'm plannning to apply to my PFS character. I didn't find the PFS Guide very helpful in answering this question when I looked into it a while back.
Hm. I skimmed through the Guide and couldn't find a single thing about pregens. Maybe its on the boards somewhere; I don't pay attention to the FAQ as much as I should.
We've always ruled locally that you should apply it at the level you played it at. Otherwise someone could repeatedly play level 4 pregens at 4-5 tier and get full gold and then apply that to a level 1 character who now has more gold than they should. But maybe that was just something we always did and is not an actual rule.
Either way, applying a level 7 pregen credit at level 8 (or even higher) is certainly ok.
But you don't get to apply the gold until you reach the relevant level, right? My PFS character - Terrill, who's played with you elsewhere, EF - has done several scenarios with pregens, at levels 4 and 7. But he's only 3rd level, and I haven't applied anything from those chronicles yet (PP, Fame, gold, items, boons, etc.), because he's not yet at the level of the pregen who played the module.
I believe I'm doing that right, and it would address the issue you mentioned, of dumping pregen gold onto a starting PFS character.
Edit: just re-read your post, EF, and I think we're saying the same thing - but I left my post up to make sure.
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You must apply the credit to your character as soon as she reaches the level of the pregenerated character played.
I was wrong; carry on being correct!
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Thanks for finding that!
But to answer Kyra's question: yes, you should be fine applying it when (whoever) is level 8. You are just applying four sheets at once as soon as that character hits 7, which takes them one sheet beyond level 8. I believe that is perfectly ok as long as the character is still within the tier of the scenario.
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Applying a level 7 pregen credit to a higher level PC is not okay.
You may not apply a Chronicle sheet earned with a pregenerated character to a character that was already at the level of the pregenerated character or higher
Emphasis added.
Your option at a higher level than the pregen is to apply the Chronicle sheet(s) to a 1st-level character with the amount of gp gained reduced to 500 gp.
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I like how that's not in the section about Pregens, but is totally relevant. Whoo, wordcounts!
That said, I don't deal with pregens. I played one once on a whim at Dragoncon. Took the chronicle, applied it to -0. All it means is that I cant play Kortos Envoy, which isn't even a minor loss.
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Wait, they list the exception IMMEDIATELY after that text. Keep going.
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Disclaimer: I didn't check what level the character he is applying the credit to's level. Just saying that its possible to go up multiple levels.
You may not apply a Chronicle sheet earned with a pregenerated character to a character that was already at the level of the pregenerated character or higher
But when the pregen earned the Chronicle (at least in my case), the character was 3rd level. He was not already at the level of the pregen character.
Are you saying that my PFS character will use 3 pregen-earned chronicle sheets to move through 7th level, and I'll then be applying the 4th pregen-earned sheet to an 8th level character, which violates the rule you cited? That doesn't seem the intent of that rule. If it were, it seems it would say something like "You may not play more than three Chronicle sheets earned with pregenerated characters per tier," since that would be the effect of it.
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You mean this?
The one exception is if you have multiple Chronicle sheets from pregenerated characters, they are applied to your character's Chronicle sheet stack all at once when your character reaches the appropriate level, even if this would advance your character several levels.
That works, if you're applying four (or more) pregen7 chronicles to, say, a sixth level PC. However, if you're applying pregen7 chronicles to a PC that's already higher than 7, that's a no-go.
Reading is fundamental! I should try it sometime...
Carry on!
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Or just do what I do and skim text twelve times, looking for buzzwords, do ho ho.
I lost track; was I originally correct yet or no?
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I lost track; was I originally correct yet or no?
I think you were originally correct, then partly wrong, then completely wrong for a moment in the middle there, and then vindicated by being proven completely (partially) correct.
eating his own words ;)
^That is what I meant by applying pregen credit to a higher level character; stacking more than three so that some of them are technically applied when your character is level 8,9,etc. I guess the way I worded it earlier sounded like I was saying you could play a level 7 pregen and apply the credit to your character who is already 10 or something. Yeah, that's not ok. But you can stack up as many pregen credits as you want before your character hits that level (7 in this case).
You mean this?
The one exception is if you have multiple Chronicle sheets from pregenerated characters, they are applied to your character's Chronicle sheet stack all at once when your character reaches the appropriate level, even if this would advance your character several levels.
That works, if you're applying four (or more) pregen7 chronicles to, say, a sixth level PC. However, if you're applying pregen7 chronicles to a PC that's already higher than 7, that's a no-go.
Reading is fundamental! I should try it sometime...
Carry on!
Ah, that clarifies things. I don't have a PFS Guide on hand - but it's clear to me I missed an important section when I tried to find this answer before (I must have been reading having already activated my Weiman Style feats, but I still should have caught the buzzwords).
Thanks for reading to us here at Story Hour!
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eating his own words ;)
Tasty.
^That is what I meant by applying pregen credit to a higher level character; stacking more than three so that some of them are technically applied when your character is level 8,9,etc. I guess the way I worded it earlier sounded like I was saying you could play a level 7 pregen and apply the credit to your character who is already 10 or something. Yeah, that's not ok. But you can stack up as many pregen credits as you want before your character hits that level (7 in this case).
That's how I read it, and without delving too deeply into Khelreddin's actual question.
It was basically like casting summon VO with the magic circle in place. That whole lawful thing is the reason I align more closely with devils than demons, LOL.