Final Fantasy D20 (Inactive)

Game Master Crayfish Hora

While I was searching some web, I found a really neat set of PDFs that hosted some stellar information. Final Fantasy

There's loads of actually interesting classes and it all goes really well with Pathfinder stuff, as that's the base. This addition has those high-fantasy elements that should be in Pathfinder already and not limited to spell-casters. Sure, some are just touch-ups from other sources, but it still looks really neat.

If enough interest is shown, I can create a game for it. Though I'd rather not DM, since my current hours are few due to moving and school beginning. I would gladly accept a co DM who is actually a responsible adult. My knowledge of the FF world mostly lies on Final Fantasy Tactics and 9 and no other FF game exists between those two. What a shame!

Jokes aside, take a look over at those pdfs and see if something like that would interest you, wonderful reader.

I might be interested if you weren't so busy with life and other games. Put this on the back burner until you are ready.

Wouldn't mind playing a sword saint but I agree with TheWaskally; read over the PDFs, get familiar with the system and when life gives you free time then start the game

Aye, once it's settled with my upcoming school stuff, there'll be enough time for another game. It's just Pathfinder, with different classes and monsters, but everything is mostly the same.

One key change is MP instead of spell slots, which I really like. There's also feats to steal MP and some over-the-top fantasy stuff.

Also interested when you have the time.

Yeah! I recommend looking over the classes on the link I gave. I'll be ready near the end of the month and having an idea of what you'd like to play is better than not. I'm a first come, first served kinda guy.

Played and enjoyed a lot of FF games, none since 12 though. I am interested in giving it a try.

That looks interesting. Finished only Crisis Core, but played a few others FF. Started playing FF X not long ago and love it.

I'd like to try a Blue mage.

Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (4, 3, 1, 3) = 11 10
Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (5, 5, 5, 1) = 16 15
Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 1, 6) = 14 13
Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (6, 1, 6, 5) = 18 17
Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 1, 2) = 9 8
Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (3, 6, 4, 3) = 16 12

Not bad apart from that one. :)

I'd like to try a Scholar (Arithmatician)

What stat generation?
Also what character sheets do you want us to use?

You can use the classic Paizo forum character sheet that floats around. Or whatever other character sheet you feel comfortable with. I can read almost every character sheet.

We'll go 4d6 drop the lowest or 15 point buy (the new version), where your stats start at 10 and max out at 18 on character creation. Well either way, the max at character creation for a stat is 18.

Hitpoints can be maxed at every level. Because that's what I do. Background skills are fine. Starting wealth is rolled, for fun.

4d6 - 1 ⇒ (3, 5, 6, 1) - 1 = 14
4d6 - 1 ⇒ (1, 1, 2, 1) - 1 = 4
4d6 - 2 ⇒ (4, 5, 2, 3) - 2 = 12
4d6 - 3 ⇒ (6, 6, 3, 6) - 3 = 18
4d6 - 4 ⇒ (6, 5, 4, 5) - 4 = 16
4d6 - 2 ⇒ (5, 5, 2, 4) - 2 = 14

18, 16, 14, 14, 12, 4

Hm...

Dot

4d6 ⇒ (6, 1, 1, 1) = 9
4d6 ⇒ (1, 1, 3, 5) = 10
4d6 ⇒ (5, 4, 6, 3) = 18
4d6 ⇒ (2, 2, 5, 3) = 12
4d6 ⇒ (1, 2, 2, 5) = 10
4d6 ⇒ (2, 3, 1, 6) = 12

Yeah, I'll take the point buy

What kind of tech level for a setting?

So many options...maybe a Gunblade specialist? FF8 does have a special place in my heart...

100gp

@Everyone Could you please play martial characters? DBH and I are playing mages

How are scrolls going to work?

I have to admit, when I think of Blue mages I think only of Quistis.

Bad breath

Don't listen to that dragon! Play what you like. Also, Blue Mages are like bards. They got some BAB, some magical stuff, some support stuff. And they have bad breath.

Also that point buy is 1 for 1. 15 points. That way, you don't have to look up a website to do your pointbuy like I do.

@Dragon. Scrolls are going to work like scrolls. One time use magic item that you can buy or find and maybe learn something from it. Unless I overlooked something that stated they may work differently, they look normal to me.

Tech level is a good question. I like the Final Fantasy Tactics tech level, where people are running around with magic and swords again, but some peeps learned how to use and craft a gun. There's ancient tech, like the device that pulls people from other planets and time itself into the current era (ie. Cloud and Balthier).

We're talking limited pockets of high tech, but no battlesuits, no cars, no flying death ships. There are guns though, found in certain places.

Arithmetician looks neat, as it was always the neatest class in FFT. Just gotta watch out for friendly fire!

Would Gunblade be viable, then?

Gunblades from ffd20 are not the same thing as gunblades from FF8. Also, given the reference to War of the Lions/FFT then it should be fine to have a time-travelling gunblade user.

If you want, I can provide homebrew statistics for a revolver gunblade.

Starting level? Anything except level 1 would be nice. Depending on the answer I am planning Dragoon 1/Sword Saint (Blademaster) X

Sorry to clarify
How can we learn spells from scrolls

Gunblades from ffd20 are not the same thing as gunblades from FF8. Also, given the reference to War of the Lions/FFT then it should be fine to have a time-travelling gunblade user.

If you want, I can provide homebrew statistics for a revolver gunblade.

Starting level? Anything except level 1 would be nice.

I second starting on level 2

Can I get the following traits

Midgar Mainlander (Perception)
The bustling metropolis of Midgar may as well be considered the center of the world, at least that’s what the people that live there tend to think. Possessing the latest in technologies, vices and pleasures the people of this multifaceted city tend to vary from ruthlessly jaded to hopefully optimistic in all things, and everything in between.
Benefit: Select one Skill that is not a Class Skill, this skill now becomes a Class Skill.

And

Shinra Employee
Despite, or because of, the ruthless corporate policies held by Shinra Inc. you are paid a better share than someone in the same field of expertise elsewhere.
Benefit: You gain an additional 300 gil at character creation and a 100 gil salary each month (for as long as you are employed). In addition, so long as you are employed by Shinra Inc. you have ‘relatively free’ access to the Shinra compound and won’t trigger security alarms (unless you do something stupid...at which point you are likely considered ‘terminated’).

If drawbacks are allowed

Jenova Puppet
Whether by experiments conducted on you by Shinra or some other event that you cannot recall, you came into contact with the Calamity. Now Jenova cells are present in your body, awaiting the call to Reunion.
Effect: You suffer a -2 racial penalty to Will saves against mind control affects made by Jenova type creatures.

For

Natural Arcana
At some point in your life, you came across an arcane gift within yourself.
Benefit: You gain an MP pool containing 1 MP. This 1 MP refreshes at the beginning of each day.

What is your interpretation of everyone in the following peice of text

By selecting one Situation she knows and one Number she knows, the spell the arithmetician now casts affects everyone (ally, enemy or herself) that has that Situation at a number divisible by the number she has chosen.

Can't think of anything with a 4 in a stat. I'll take a point buy.

Okay, let's see.

@Johnnycat. A revolver only has 6 shots. The other gunblade weapons have 10 or 20 shots. Why not...get a standard gunblade and say "it's a revolver"? I would probably have a gunblade revolver in the middle ground, a d10 shooting and a d8 slashing. But with less range and less bullets.

@Dragon. Well, I'm glad you asked! You see, someone can learn spells from scrolls by using spellcraft. The DC is 15+spell level.

No drawbacks this round friends!

@Dragon. I figure you've never played Final Fantasy Tactics. That math class has the strongest spell slinging options, but you can carelessly cast magic on your friendlies and suddenly their eating Holy spells. Everyone is everyone friend. Allies, enemies, the caster...any number you use that affects more than one target, will affect more than one target. Don't blow yourself up with math kids!

@Dode. Gunblades are fine!

@Everyone, Level 2 starting out is fine as well with me. So that's what we'll do.

The 1 problem I have with using numbers for offensive capabilities is I have to guess because I won't know my enemies status for most things
Do you know a way to get around that?

What's the order I can take magical theorem?

You would have to guess, yes. Its a lot easier in the game, where you can see the enemies highlighted (but you may miss your own character off in the corner of the map). I'll tell you that a math-wizard is at his best when he's outnumbered (Get it? Get it?). Higher chance of blowing up more enemies than allies. The...slayer, I believe, has an ability that can tell you how much a monster has hitpoint wise.

Blood Reader (Ex): While able to see a studied target, a slayer with this talent knows exactly how many hit points his opponent has remaining. This only works against living targets.

Magical Theorem is taken from top to bottom. So it would look like this:

For Algebra! An example. Subtraction > Addition > Equation.

You would have to guess, yes. Its a lot easier in the game, where you can see the enemies highlighted (but you may miss your own character off in the corner of the map). I'll tell you that a math-wizard is at his best when he's outnumbered (Get it? Get it?). Higher chance of blowing up more enemies than allies. The...slayer, I believe, has an ability that can tell you how much a monster has hitpoint wise.

Quote:

Blood Reader (Ex): While able to see a studied target, a slayer with this talent knows exactly how many hit points his opponent has remaining. This only works against living targets.

Magical Theorem is taken from top to bottom. So it would look like this:

For Algebra! An example. Subtraction > Addition > Equation.

I did think so for the magical theorem I was just checking

MP allows you to cast more spells. Spells already have their own spell level. Gaining more MP doesn't increase the spells' levels. Think of gaining MP as gaining more spell slots in which to cast spells. Without spell slots, you are just wiggling your fingers and the enemy beats you down with their floppy steel.

Without MP, you have no magic power from which to draw your spells from. So you're wiggling your fingers to no avail.

And here's my (Somewhat) Complete character

MP allows you to cast more spells. Spells already have their own spell level. Gaining more MP doesn't increase the spells' levels. Think of gaining MP as gaining more spell slots in which to cast spells. Without spell slots, you are just wiggling your fingers and the enemy beats you down with their floppy steel.

Without MP, you have no magic power from which to draw your spells from. So you're wiggling your fingers to no avail.

Sorry (I must seem like an idiot) I meant in metamagic terms

Oh. Well no, it just costs more MP for metamagic. Unless! You heighten, which I believe is the only metamagic thingy to increase effective spell level. So you're Prime Number Magic Stuff would go off a 1st level spell. You have 2d6 dice, I presume, and try to get one of those prime numbers for free MP cost. Which is pretty nice. As long as you don't blow up your allies/buff your enemies.

2d6 ⇒ (3, 6) = 9

Subtracting 3 from 6 gets you that 3 you need, so your spell costs 1 MP. But roll something terrible, and you lost that MP, your spell casting action, and just look really silly after.

Like Sacred Geometry, the class. Which is infinitely better when you're on a forum like this and not in a live game.

6-3=3 Exploding enemies!!!

Or exploding allies. Or both! Or everyone explodes! Math is a dangerous weapon.

Edit: I find it strangely amusing that Nu Mou can't swim.

Or exploding allies. Or both! Or everyone explodes! Math is a dangerous weapon.

Edit: I find it strangely amusing that Nu Mou can't swim.

This would be an awesome gestalt class (d10/d12 hit die) play a warrior who's battle cry is 'I will kill you with Math!!!" Opens with blasting everybody (including himself) with Fire then hits the weakened body/s with Swords

Why?

Since I will probably forget the math later

11/21 chance to Fail with 2D6, 4/6 Chance to Fail With 1D6, ?/124 Chance to Fail With 3D6

3/56 wrong (All the threes were there, you have to trust me on this)
2/3 chance to fail 1d6, 11/21 chance to fail 2d6, 3/56 chance to fail 3d6

Okay, let's see.

@Johnnycat. A revolver only has 6 shots. The other gunblade weapons have 10 or 20 shots. Why not...get a standard gunblade and say "it's a revolver"? I would probably have a gunblade revolver in the middle ground, a d10 shooting and a d8 slashing. But with less range and less bullets.

The revolver gunblade is a specific device used by squall in FF8. Unlike other gunblades, it doesn't really shoot bullets which makes its operation unique. Here's the content I have for it:

The intention of all of this was to try and recreate squall's moveset from Dissidia, so if that's not what you want then don't worry about it.

So many fun classes. I'm slowly narrowing them down.

While I'm at it, a question about a Skylancer, Dragoon's archetype.

It's -4 to attacks, so I'm not sure if its a good idea, but it is epic - dual wielding glaives and jumping around the battlefield.

So many fun classes. I'm slowly narrowing them down.

While I'm at it, a question about a Skylancer, Dragoon's archetype.
** spoiler omitted **
Does that mean a Skylancer doesn't have to take TWF feats and automatically gains their benefit if wielding two spears/lancers/polearms?

It's -4 to attacks, so I'm not sure if its a good idea, but it is epic - dual wielding glaives and jumping around the battlefield.

If you're gonna play jump-man then I'll probably just run pure Sword Saint

If you can get a casting of cheetah's sprint (like through the fey magic alternate racial trait for humans) you can get like a 600 ft charge speed and pull of insane jumps. Also, there's a trait in ffd20 that let's you wield two-handed weapon one-handed

@Mad Caster. Yeppers, free two-weapon fighting stuff. None of those feats taking up your space with that class, but you could do so with other combinations. But you would have to take the feats. With the Dragoon, you can skip on Dex entirely and be a Strength based dual-wielder who also skips feats and makes all the bounce attacks until you're out of movement/attacks later.

Or you can run real fast and make one attack as a different class. Without the cushion of taking less falling damage from your jumps. There's lots to consider. Get yourself a flying mount and dual-wield lances for some butt-exploding damage when you fall from the sky and impale your enemies. You don't need the TWF feats so you can easily pick up "death-by-charge" feats. Like some sorta Cavalier. Pick up weapon focus to lower the penalty to -3, add the charge for -1, add attacking from higher ground for +0 and it evens out. And full BAB with only needing Strength!

@Johnny Cat.

Looks great on the gunblade stuff. I'll allow it. But when I talk about this game to my friends, I'm going to say, "Yeah, he's using the same weapon as Squall. He's a Squaller. After that sweet Squall combat."

@Dragon. No, as that's not an option for Math-Wizardry, outlined in the Math-Wizardry handbook. AKA, the class page.

At this point I'm playing either Hakumen or SQUALL, but either way it will be a Sword Saint (Blademaster).

We'll see what Dodekatheon has to say. If he still wants to run a gunblade user then I'll grab a nodachi, otherwise I'll rock the revolver.

Can I get extra months of work before the game starts?
(The shinra employee trait)

I'm going to say no, but I'm sure there'll be a money making adventure for you to start in.