Echoes of Glory

Game Master P.H. Dungeon

Characters hail from northern Taldor and are members or retainers of the Albercroft family. Lord Albercroft is a baron of a small domain in Northern Taldor.


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male human

Sir Garret, you will be serving your family and starting in your home barony, which is in Taldor. I'm making you the second son not the third in your line. However, your elder brother has proved to be a bully and boor. Your father, who is a devout follower of Imodae, decided that your brother was unfit for ruling. Thus he broke tradition and decided that you would be the heir to the family's lands not your older brother. This resulted in a rift in the family. Your older brother left to live with his uncle, who your father doesn't particularly get on well with. This particular uncle rules a neighbouring barony and is a warlike follower of Gorum.If it weren't for the fact that he and your father were brothers you would likely be in a bloodfeud or border war. Your brother still harbours a grudge for the slight caused by your father.

Sir Garret feel free to decide on some details for other siblings- little brothers or sisters.


male human

Atayos, I'm thinking that you will be a family friend. Traditionally Taloran nobles send their children to live with with allied nobles for part of their lives, so that they can train as squires, and to function in a sense as hostages so they don't betray eachother. You could be at Albercroft castle in such a role. Or you could be hedgeknight/bannerman of the family who has a manor in one of the countryside that the Albercrofts control. I'll leave that up to you. The vassal angle probably works better if you see yourself more as an older mentor. If you want to be a friend of a similar age then you were more likely sent to live with the Albercrofts by your own family.


male human

Randofrain, I could see your character being part of the Albercroft family, perhaps a younger brother of Sir. Garret.

Alternatively, I could see him as a vassal with his own small manor within the Albercroft barony.

You could also be a cousin, As Lord Albercroft has more than one brother.


male human

Daway, Baron Theodric Albercroft is married to the daughter of count Otto Greyborne. She has a twin sister who is blind. When she married Albercroft her sister came along with her to live with the Albercroft family. The blind sister was never married. However she did manage to get pregnant. Who impregnated her is still a mystery, some think it was Barond Albercroft, others think it was a visiting nobleman. Either way you were the end result, and due to the scandlous nature of the whole affair you were sent away. You have only recenlty returned.


male human

Torrin, I'm not sure exactly how I see your character fitting in at the moment. Perhaps a second or third son of Count Greyborne- the leige of Baron Albercroft. That would give you experience in a slightly more promienent court where there would be a bit more intrigue than in a backwater barony, which I think would be more suited to your character concept. Of course if you went that route that would make Lady Albercroft your sister- your much older sister. She would be in her early 40's. Count Greyborne would be near 60, and you would be between 17-21.


Posting to get my dot.

If Talomyr is cool with the story, I might be a younger sibling of his. As I stated earlier, I can see Rando being completely uninterested in the machinations of the line of succession. He would have been much more interested in the teachings of Iomedae, rather than the ins and outs of which brother is the rightful heir.

With that being said, Rando would have recognized the part of his family that is good, and would definitely support them. The brother following Gorum would be the 'black sheep' in the family to him. I'd also suspect the bully older brother made things pretty tough on Rando way back when, so he wouldn't be adverse to standing up to him now, if the story played out that way.


Male Human (Taldan) Cavalier 3 (Honor Guard, Strategist), HP27/27, AC20, Per +7, SM +6, AOO +6, Aid Another +3 (+4 AC/CMD)

Will go for a vassal angle, have a lot of ideas for it already in my mind, just want to give Talomyr time to finalise his background etc. before I do mine.

Basic concept is that the Albercroft house raised up the Olytrius one generation ago from their humblest of noble houses to the ranks of the bearded at great expense (essentially they made them vassals and granted them a small estate), and the small Olytrius household have never forgotten it. The family pledged Atayos to the Albercroft family to serve indefinitely, although it is expected that if the current heirs fortunes rise, Atayos' will too (eventually he would hopefully act as a kind of Castellan or Hand). The Albercroft family paid for a crusader's education in Lastwall where he was classically schooled, but he would often visit as he watched his future charge grow to manhood.

He returned a year or two ago when words reached him that Garett had reached majority. He came back a little grizzled and with a ferocious facial scar, a courtesy of his time in the Worldwound, to serve as Garett's honour guard.

P.S- What is the name of the duchy etc. that the Albercroft family are part of? Or the county. I've bought an area map for Atayos but don't know what the area is called. I assume said area map wouldn't be for all of Taldor but the local Duchy or County seemed appropriate.

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Male

I think my alienage will have occured in Oppara at the kithorodian academy with possible assimilation into the lion blades.


Male Human (Taldan) Cavalier 3 (Honor Guard, Strategist), HP27/27, AC20, Per +7, SM +6, AOO +6, Aid Another +3 (+4 AC/CMD)

Oh, and despite Atayos' grim visage, scars and natural lack of social skills he has been trained to overcome this. Although his charisma is 7, he'll be taking ranks in many social skills (has already, in fact) and should come across as fairly eloquent.


male human

I haven't quite got all the names worked out yet, but I'll keep you posted. I'm hoping to get a chance to do a regional map of the area that will mark different fiefs. And possibly a more detailed one of the barony.

The background sounds good.

Atayos Olytrius wrote:

Will go for a vassal angle, have a lot of ideas for it already in my mind, just want to give Talomyr time to finalise his background etc. before I do mine.

Basic concept is that the Albercroft house raised up the Olytrius one generation ago from their humblest of noble houses to the ranks of the bearded at great expense (essentially they made them vassals and granted them a small estate), and the small Olytrius household have never forgotten it. The family pledged Atayos to the Albercroft family to serve indefinitely, although it is expected that if the current heirs fortunes rise, Atayos' will too (eventually he would hopefully act as a kind of Castellan or Hand). The Albercroft family paid for a crusader's education in Lastwall where he was classically schooled, but he would often visit as he watched his future charge grow to manhood.

He returned a year or two ago when words reached him that Garett had reached majority. He came back a little grizzled and with a ferocious facial scar, a courtesy of his time in the Worldwound, to serve as Garett's honour guard.

P.S- What is the name of the duchy etc. that the Albercroft family are part of? Or the county. I've bought an area map for Atayos but don't know what the area is called. I assume said area map wouldn't be for all of Taldor but the local Duchy or County seemed appropriate.


male human
DaWay wrote:
I think my alienage will have occured in Oppara at the kithorodian academy with possible assimilation into the lion blades.

That sounds cool


male human

I think siblings is a good idea. Characters tied to gather by family relations creates an interesting dynamic.

Randofrain Albercroft wrote:

Posting to get my dot.

If Talomyr is cool with the story, I might be a younger sibling of his. As I stated earlier, I can see Rando being completely uninterested in the machinations of the line of succession. He would have been much more interested in the teachings of Iomedae, rather than the ins and outs of which brother is the rightful heir.

With that being said, Rando would have recognized the part of his family that is good, and would definitely support them. The brother following Gorum would be the 'black sheep' in the family to him. I'd also suspect the bully older brother made things pretty tough on Rando way back when, so he wouldn't be adverse to standing up to him now, if the story played out that way.

Sovereign Court

Taldan Human Order of the Sword Cavalier 2 / Bard (Arcane Duelist) 1 HP: 24/24; AC: 20/22; Perception +4; Sense Motive +4

Checking in.

Randofrain, perfectly fine with that idea :)

I will be updating Garrett's background throughout the day and early evening as time permits today. I will post an update when complete.


male human

I've updated the campaign info thread with more details on the realm.

I'm also beginning the gameplay thread. Don't feel rushed though, keep fleshing out and finishing up your characters. It is mainly there so you can begin some introductory rping. You don't need all your stats and fully ironed out yet- at this point the background is a bit more important.


Male Human (Taldan) Cavalier 3 (Honor Guard, Strategist), HP27/27, AC20, Per +7, SM +6, AOO +6, Aid Another +3 (+4 AC/CMD)

Still need to know what we're doing for HP.


And traits as well. After that, and just memorializing my background, my sheet will be through.

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Taldan Human Order of the Sword Cavalier 2 / Bard (Arcane Duelist) 1 HP: 24/24; AC: 20/22; Perception +4; Sense Motive +4

Waiting for the same information as Atayos and Rando.

Rando, if you are a younger sibling to Garrett, I have Garrett at age 24.

The background in the profile is starting to come together (but not complete) if anyone is waiting on my background for information for their own.


male human

Let's do up to 2 traits (though they are optional, take them if you want them), and odds and evens for hp.


Male Human Rogue 3 HP: 17 AC: 16 Touch: 13 Flat Footed: 13 Perception: +7 Sense Motive: +7

im here. im fine with changing my age. ill be 19. and the only thing i think i'm missing is my gear which usually takes me forever to put together. I really like to flesh out his backstory with gear respective... so sorry if it takes me a while to put it together.


I'll move Rando down in age as well. I'll make my hopefully final additions tomorrow. I'll be using a lot of Garrett's history as my basis, as I was farmed out to the church, and quite enjoyed it.


Male Human Rogue 3 HP: 17 AC: 16 Touch: 13 Flat Footed: 13 Perception: +7 Sense Motive: +7

could I make him the second bastard son of greyborn... hence the last name ... and also would make him half brother instead of brother... in no way in the line of succesion either...


Just so you know Torrin, the main gameplay thread is up now.


Male Human Rogue 3 HP: 17 AC: 16 Touch: 13 Flat Footed: 13 Perception: +7 Sense Motive: +7

just waiting on response to a pm from the gm. once I know the anwser to those questions then I will know how to setup my introduction of myself


Male Human (Taldan) Cavalier 3 (Honor Guard, Strategist), HP27/27, AC20, Per +7, SM +6, AOO +6, Aid Another +3 (+4 AC/CMD)

Weren't there 5 of us? I'm seeing me, Gerald, Talomyr and Torrin, who was the 5th and what was he pitching? Still trying to decide what teamwork feat to take and it does depend significantly on party makeup.

At the moment, i'm leanign towards duck and cover. As Garrett is intending to use a shield, it lets Atayos get some benefit from sticking close to his ward as well as his ward benefiting staying close to him- helps us against reflex saves and I would also get a bonus to AC (which Atayos will sorely need as he'll rarely don his shield) as long as he had the shield out. Also helps with reflex saves, can be a life saver VS evocation effects in particular.

Tal, I assumed you've had a good look at Atayos' feats etc. already. With combat reflexes and Bodyguard, Atayos can improve your AC by 3 points for any hit with one of his AOO's, as long as your next to him. Can also boost your AC when Atayos issues a challenge, again dependent on you being adjacent to him.

So try not to run too fast in combat. This full plates heavy!

Edit: Also, leaning towards Shield Wall but only if more party members actually use shields. So far its just the heir, which is useless on his own.

Sovereign Court

Finally, GM i'll take your silence as assent to make Atayos' area map for the Albercroft lands.

Sovereign Court

Taldan Human Order of the Sword Cavalier 2 / Bard (Arcane Duelist) 1 HP: 24/24; AC: 20/22; Perception +4; Sense Motive +4
Atayos Olytrius wrote:
So try not to run too fast in combat. This full plates heavy!

No worries. Garrett is not my normal movement monkey. He's wearing full plate too. ;)


Male Human (Taldan) Cavalier 3 (Honor Guard, Strategist), HP27/27, AC20, Per +7, SM +6, AOO +6, Aid Another +3 (+4 AC/CMD)

I just realised Atayos has better clothing than Garrett, but clearly hes too polite to out-dress his lord. He has a noble's outfit to Garrett's courtiers and 100gp of jewellery :P.

So when he begins to recommend local outfitters for Garrett to commission a royal or nobles outfit, know that there is no ulterior motive in his mind at all ;).

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Taldan Human Order of the Sword Cavalier 2 / Bard (Arcane Duelist) 1 HP: 24/24; AC: 20/22; Perception +4; Sense Motive +4

Actually I haven't updated any of Garrett's equipment from his origninal game yet. Something that I plan to do during my lunch hour today ;)


Male Human Rogue 3 HP: 17 AC: 16 Touch: 13 Flat Footed: 13 Perception: +7 Sense Motive: +7

i figure mine prefers to hit from the shadows both literally and figuratevly. im trying to see if i cant have a few of my own vassals... maybe if we get high enough level ill take the leadership feat.

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Taldan Human Order of the Sword Cavalier 2 / Bard (Arcane Duelist) 1 HP: 24/24; AC: 20/22; Perception +4; Sense Motive +4

Gear and Traits selected.


male human
torrin'del drassin wrote:
could I make him the second bastard son of greyborn... hence the last name ... and also would make him half brother instead of brother... in no way in the line of succesion either...

That's fine. Your other request should be fine too, but I'll give more details to you later when I have more time.

We do have fifth player. I believe he is making a bard.


male human
Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:
Finally, GM i'll take your silence as assent to make Atayos' area map for the Albercroft lands.

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Yep that's fine.


Male Human (Taldan) Cavalier 3 (Honor Guard, Strategist), HP27/27, AC20, Per +7, SM +6, AOO +6, Aid Another +3 (+4 AC/CMD)

I have to say i'm not really too keen on just assuming we can take stuff from the Barony etc- not without it being very clear from the GM what is at our disposal.


That's why I asked if it was ok. I don't know how to approach that from the standpoint of what is ours, so to speak.


Male Human Rogue 3 HP: 17 AC: 16 Touch: 13 Flat Footed: 13 Perception: +7 Sense Motive: +7

i'm buying a couple extra horses to go for all my personal attendants. and soon as I know how much my attendants cost me I can tell you what kind of horse you may be able to borrow from me. wouldn't be military trained(doesn't fit my back story).


I'm not looking for a warhorse, just something to get me from here to there


male human

You should have a horse of some sort, which I think should come from your starting money.

Torrin, your attendants seem primarily for flavour and rp purposes and such, so I'm not too worried about you need "paying" for them.


Male Human Rogue 3 HP: 17 AC: 16 Touch: 13 Flat Footed: 13 Perception: +7 Sense Motive: +7

yeah I just figure someone like my character would have people take care of a lot of the 'grunt work' for him(especially with a strength score of 8). they seemed like it would be a ton of fun. and in that case i would have one extra light horse and 2 extra heavy horses. im not really trying to pick up any magic items so I have plenty of gold to outfit my charcter gonna have a personal horse for me and my valet or scribe then the pair of horses and a wagon for my maid and scribe.


That's fine, DM. Made changes and got my horsey...


male human

Can everyone post their HP, AC, Perception and Sense Motive bonus in their with their character name so that I can reference them quickly and easily.

Cheers


Male Human Rogue 3 HP: 17 AC: 16 Touch: 13 Flat Footed: 13 Perception: +7 Sense Motive: +7

HP: 19
AC: 16 Touch: 13 Flat Footed: 13
Perception: +7
Sense Motive: +7


I think he means to edit your title, like in this post. Put the information in the race/class line in your profile.


Male Human Bard 3 (HP 20/20, AC 15/11/14, Per +5, SM +0)

I am sorry but I might have missed it how are hot point being handled?

Just in case 9 + 2d8 + 2 ⇒ 9 + (1, 5) + 2 = 17


In the recruiting thread, the DM described the odds and evens systtem we are using.

I think for a d10 for example that on even levels you take 6 + Con modifier and on the odd levels, you take 5 + Con. That's without me looking it up, though...

Sovereign Court

Odds and evens usually go like this-

1st level- Max HP.
2nd level- Lower Average (2 on a D4, 3 on a D6, 4 on a D8, 5 on a D10, 6 on a D12).
3rd Level- Higher Average (3 on a D4, 4 on a D6, 5 on a D8, 6 on a D10, 7 on a D12.
4th Level- As 2nd.
5th Level- As 3rd.

And so forth.

Lower average comes first, so if you multiclassed from fighter to bard you'd take the 4 at first Bard level and 5 if you took another.


male human

Yes, like that please.

Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:

Odds and evens usually go like this-

1st level- Max HP.
2nd level- Lower Average (2 on a D4, 3 on a D6, 4 on a D8, 5 on a D10, 6 on a D12).
3rd Level- Higher Average (3 on a D4, 4 on a D6, 5 on a D8, 6 on a D10, 7 on a D12.
4th Level- As 2nd.
5th Level- As 3rd.

And so forth.

Lower average comes first, so if you multiclassed from fighter to bard you'd take the 4 at first Bard level and 5 if you took another.


Male Human (Taldan) Cavalier 3 (Honor Guard, Strategist), HP27/27, AC20, Per +7, SM +6, AOO +6, Aid Another +3 (+4 AC/CMD)

In case you missed my edit, Atayos will consult his map to find the homestead.

I believe the Cerwen's were a noble family, so I also rolled a Knowledge (Nobility) check to represent knowing where their lands began etc.


male human

The Cerwens are just a local peasant family.


Male Human (Taldan) Cavalier 3 (Honor Guard, Strategist), HP27/27, AC20, Per +7, SM +6, AOO +6, Aid Another +3 (+4 AC/CMD)

Oops, must have crossed some wires somewhere.

Can't help but think this map will be not detailed enough for when we need it, and will only provide sufficient detail when we already know where things are. Should have got my horse some armour instead :P.


male human

Feel free to adjust your spending then. You can assume you still have the map. I was planning on actually drawing out the map and scanning it as a handout, so though it will be fairly detailed, it might not be detailed enough to warrant the cost you spent on it, and I don't want to feel like you've wasted your starting gold.

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