Yah, thinking back through the game, Seraka edges out Sonya ... barely.
Her contribution in these last few fights was critical, with Sonya only a bit behind. I think once we have a bit more opportunity to learn about and interact with the town, Sonya's role will become even more important.
It's true! Curse these goblins that have taken all of our touring time, they are so rude
Truth.
Thank you all! I'm glad you are enjoying Seraka's antics, as I'm certainly enjoying writing them <3
I'm actually voting for Rokan. While he may have had a couple unlucky combats, he's contributed a great deal to the narrative by taking the lead. I'd say he's the closest thing we have to a "party leader" at the moment, something that occurred entirely organically. I also know Eben is heading out of their comfort zone with Rokan, and they have been doing a great job!
I appreciate the kind words Hrothdane. :)
I worry that I'm playing a one-dimensional gloomy-gus, but I have enjoyed him. Hopefully a few more HP's (and learning the same combat lesson A SECOND TIME) will help me keep him conscious a bit more).
Longer post later but ya know what Sonya, yeah, I'll let you have your LOH now. :) It's more satisfying for PCs to heal PCs.
Huzzah! I can finally slap people back to consciousness!
Also, question, I know spontaneous casters have the option to trade out spells, when does that happen, new levels?
"Upon reaching 4th level, and at every even-numbered sorcerer level after that (6th, 8th, and so on), a sorcerer can choose to learn a new spell in place of one she already knows. In effect, the sorcerer loses the old spell in exchange for the new one. The new spell's level must be the same as that of the spell being exchanged. A sorcerer may swap only a single spell at any given level, and must choose whether or not to swap the spell at the same time that she gains new spells known for the level."
From the sorc's Spells ability description
Curses
If you are wanting to get Shield, we can just grab a couple scrolls for cheap. Burning Hands and Color Spray are really good to have anyways
I appreciate the kind words Hrothdane. :)
I worry that I'm playing a one-dimensional gloomy-gus, but I have enjoyed him. Hopefully a few more HP's (and learning the same combat lesson A SECOND TIME) will help me keep him conscious a bit more).
Take it from someone who is used to being in that position, and know you are providing a narratively necessary and thankless role by doing so! You are balancing out our quirks and giving us a foil to play against.
Besides, Rokan doesn't strike me as the kind to open up easily, so I wouldn't expect to know much about him so far. You have plenty of opportunity to develop him naturally and believably in any direction you want. I'm betting he will get his own quirks ;)
I'll update as soon as I have the energy/brainpower guys, sorry for the delay. Having family crap here.
Okay! I gladly award MVP for level 1 to SERAAAKKAA-- so she gets one extra hero point, putting her at 2 to use in level 2.
Going to go post now. Or try to.
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Okay, I have a loot tracker nearly done; taking votes on your preferences for:
A) Dividing loot into 4 and handling 'general party purchases' as the need for them arises, or:
B) Dividing loot into 5 and leaving the 5th share be a 'party fund' that is constantly pooled into at sell points so it can be drawn on for general purchases, or borrowed out of as need arises, etc.
Also you still have an unidentified ring, in thread. Spellcraft DC 16, whenever someone gets around to attempting it.
I'm good with B, that's good for stuff like healing wands and consumables and whatnot
B works for me.
I like B, too.
Seraka doesnt really have anything to add to the conversation until we get somewhere more private, so feel free to move us forward
Okey dokey. Sorry for slowdown. I'll get an RP post up in a bit, but I'm gonna do loot breakdown while I'm thinking about it, even though it means jumping a bit ahead of my RP post (i.e., I haven't posted ICly about Ameiko giving you a reward yet, but it's coming).
Both Sonya and E could take 10 to identify the ring so at some point you guys will wind up doing that, after the very important meeting, etc, so that you can actually get appropriate value for the ring.
So the way it will work will be like this:
At each sell point, I'll tally up the sell value of everything you've found so far (at 60% sell value for items rather than 50% due to Sonya's Abadaran connections/Valdemar name, at 100% for things like actual coinage), and then split that total 5 ways. That 5-way value is in the gold box-- in this case, 531 gold to each person. Out of that, you can 'buy back' items found from the total (at the sell price, not at original market price, if that makes sense). So for instance: Rokan "made" 531 GP at this sell point, and can choose to spend 90 of that in getting Tsuto's bow, if he wishes.
Hopefully that's clear?
The 5th share can be used to "buy back" party resources, like scrolls, wands, whatever. Right now, for instance, the two cure potions listed are being sold off-- unless an individual PC pays the sell price for them, or unless you guys choose to take them out of the 'party fund'. For simplicity's sake, I can just assume you'll choose to party-fund any healing items if we like, but we should figure out a consistent agreed on way to handle it, anyway.
The party fund can also be borrowed against for big ticket items when one person doesn't have enough. That's relevant right now, because one f the items you've found is a Ring of Protection +1, which no one PC can afford even if you wipe out the party fund for it. So if you guys want to keep that in the party, someone will need to be agreed upon as the person who gets to keep it, and I'll re-figure the totals accordingly and sort out exactly how much that PC is 'in debt' to the rest of the party.
Going to go work on an in game post now.
I think Rokan or Seraka might benefit the most from the extra AC, since Seraka's goes down while she's raging, and Rokan keeps getting beat up.
Also, I should invest in a rapier, hahaha. It went a lot better for me.
I think Sonya should take it. Seraka has Shield of Faith, which doesn't stack with the ring. It doesn't stack with Sonya's smite AC either, but Sonya also is only smiting once a day, and only on evil things.
Yah, is say someone else should take the ring. Sonya or Seraka. Either one. And other than holding onto the healing pots, there's nothing in the loot Rokan wants. He just got Weapon Focus (longbow), so he's better served leaving Tsuto's bow in the sell pile and buying a longbow.
Basically, I'm going to be scrimping and saving until I have the 630g needed to get his busted bow fixed up. That's his main big item I'm driving towards.
Also, busy day yesterday and busy weekend. So if you don't hear from me, don't wait on me. :)
I can take the ring of protection and then give you money to buy you out of your share, and then wait until I can pay back Seraka and E later. Then you can get your bow fixed
So, if I'm doing it in this partial way, I think I am paying back each person (except myself) 1/5th, and then 1/5th goes to party fund? So I'm giving 240 to Rokan, and owe 240 to the fund, seraka, and E.
I think we'd actually do it this way.
The ring would come out of the sell total (reducing the 5-way split by 1200). Then, you'd owe the other four of us (including group fund) 300g each.
Or am I misunderstanding?
Well, if we sold it normally, everyone (including group fund) would get 240 (1200/5), so if I'm buying out everyone else's shares, shouldn't they just get that same amount rather than the dividing by four
Oh, yah. That makes sense. Carry on.
On the road today, but will do a proper check in tonight.
Long day here. Updating after some sleep <3
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Loot stuff:
Let me make sure I understand this right:
If we remove the ring from the top, everyone's share is 291 in gold.
The party fund would buy the two potions and get 81 gold.
Sonya would get the ring, 291 gold, and owe the party fund and the other pcs 240 each (to be repaid whenever).
Rokan needs 630 gold for his bow, the party fund could donate it's 81 gold to be repaid later. Rokan could spend his share, and E is willing to donate the remaining 258 gold to the cause.
Does this work for everyone?
Sounds good to me. I am currently looking at options for useful consumables to buy with my gold. Basically, I'm looking at things that will help us cover our bases.
I'm out of town with limited computer access until Sunday. I can post on my phone, but I can't get super detailed.
I really appreciate everyone’s willingness to throw in; once he has a bow that actually boosts his ability to help the team in a fight, his gear needs are pretty thin for a while. :)
As for how much is necessary for that, I set aside 70 of Rokan’s starting gold, so he really only still owes 560 to have the funds. Removing his split from this pot leaves that at 269. So if Sonya pays out her share to Rokan, that leaves only 29 gold needed.
I can definitely owe you 29g, if you’re willing to part with it, E. :D
Dien, what are the chances that the town has a Make Whole scroll so that Rokan can go into the tunnel in the morning with a shiny new kick-ass masterwork composite longbow (+2 strength rating)?
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Okay, here's a list of items I want to pick up with my share. It's basically all consumables and utility items to help us be covered in a wide range of contingencies.
@Dien please let me know if anything is unavailable
Seraka Purchases
Scrolls
Prot. from Evil 25 gp
Remove Fear 25 gp
Remove Sickness 25 gp
Magic Weapon 25 gp
Pots/Oils
Bless Weapon 50 gp
AoE
Acid Flask x 3 30 gp
Misc.
Antiplague 50 gp
Antitoxin 50 gp
Smoked Goggles 10 gp
Bandolier 5 sp
Silk Rope (50 ft) 10 gp
E is putting together a badass spreadsheet that he will share to better track the loot. And I'm.... falling asleep just now (I'm sort of on vacation, but the days are wiping me out, even though they're very fun), so I'll get a post up in the morning. We will get Rokan's bow fixed though, in narrative (with the gold still coming mechanically as discussed blah blah).
Nice list, Seraka. I can't think of anything to add. :)
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Hiya everybody
I wasn't super familiar with the type of loot-sharing we were doing, so I built a spreadsheet to help me visualize it. For those interested, the tab labeled "D: Tsuto's End" is the relevant tab.
That being said, I also took the liberty of creating a "ledger" and inventory sheets for each of our PCs. I'll be using it to track E's loot (which will also serve as an example tab). The DM, myself, or anyone who likes (need permissions though) will be able to make changes to the party fund tab.
If you'd like to use the tab for your character, as well as edit the party fund tab, shoot me a PM with your google drive email so I can give it permissions to the spreadsheet.
I hope you'll find it useful.
Very nice, E! I've sent you my email, and I'll go ahead and use that sheet as Rokan's loot tracker, to keep everything in one place.
Very cool! Glad I'm not the only excel-sheet crazy person around here.
Did notice one thing:
Looks like the 'Armor', 'Shield' and 'Weapon' dropdowns on individual character pages still link to your equipment info - so I could equip your leather armor for example haha
Could also be cool to have the 'coin available' automatically do the conversions - right now it can show "150g, -1s, -1c", and you have to manually convert.
Yah, it could just as easily be a decimal, as silver and copper work directly like dimes and pennies. :)
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Ah! Oops! The data validations now point to your individual tabs. For some reason I thought the "duplicate" tab feature would auto-change that. Strange that it doesn't.
I used a "make change" entry in the ledger, but I can see that getting annoying. I'll work on an auto-change making thing, but I'm not sure on a time frame.
Yes, I am a spreadsheet-er. Data analyzers unite!
I thought about the decimal thing, and you're right, but I wanted to keep track of coinage counts. Mainly because I have E throw small coins around like candy and if he runs out it'll be a thing. ;)
Ahahaha alright, we'll survive. Thanks for the hard work!!
Ugh, sorry, give me uno mas day. I just need to tackle the posts fresh in the day instead of trying to do them at night when sleepy.
So, E. It looks like you're tracking the purchases we're making on that Tsuto's End tab. Would ti be cleaner moving forward to have just the accumulated (and divided) loot on that tab, and then have the inter-party transactions tracked on individual sheets?
Or are you hoping to just reference those interactions on our personal sheets back onto the Tsuto's End tab?
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So, my plan was to create a tab for each disbursement, as a reference point, and for party members to claim equipment from the loot pot. Any unclaimed gear is assumed to be sold when looking at a tab afterwards.
The value in putting claimed gear (as well as purchased gear) in your equipment list is that it tracks your character's (and the Party Fund's) overall wealth over time, so we can see if anyone is getting the shorted.
Ideally, you would lump all your purchases for a section into one entry into the ledger, but have each item (and it's listed value) in your equipment entry list.
For example, Seraka would list all of her purchases as individual line items in her equipment list, and then in the ledger just write "Gear Purchase" -305 gold. (And as they get used up or destroyed, note how many are consumed in the indicated cell). (And potentially link the ledger entry to the post).
The Party Fund is also a decent example of how I was thinking loot entry should go. The items are still in the reference tab, but you can see that I've entered them into the inventory of the Party Fund, and referenced the distribution name.
And after writing all of that, I realize I don't think I answered your question.
The distribution lists are more meant for 'loot' phases. Characters should list their own interactions in their tab. There will be a distribution tab for each 'looting', and likely won't be used for typical personal gains.
Not keeping track of accumulated items on your characters equipment list would make it difficult to track character wealth, and reference your gear, since over time the number of loot tabs will grow. I suspect over time it might get unwieldy, and create another spreadsheet just to archive old distribution tabs.
Cool. Then I'm taking a stab at that right now. i've entered what I think are Rokan's split into my tab, and have entered a "Markov's bow" entry to have the bow repaired. Unless I've misunderstood or mis-entered something, the balance I would need to borrow from you, E, actually only ends up being 22.05 g.
double check my work, if you're up for it. And should I go ahead and apply that 22.05 borrow-age?
You'll have to show me where I missed the 6 or so gold.