actually she wasn't poison until the last paladin was f*!@ing stupid
in any even she is fixable, but people have to be patient, which is what I tried to tell the other paladin but he wouldn't listen. it takes TIME to change the relationships, anyone that pushes things will cause the npc to leave, and causing an npc to leave will really damage the relationship with the others. now the relationship is not necessary, it is just a mini game after all, with some fun boons to be gained.
I would prefer you to remove the insults one. That is what I HATED about Varin. It made things become black and white, same with Hassaam. It just doesn't work with my style. I can guarantee it will result in an argument between us. The rest are fine.
Also a slippery slope. So what are you going to do if a LG ruler of a fiefdom insults you and does not recant? Beat him? Then you are removed from the game because you assaulted a ruler and are now in prison, unless you are going to run, which is not lawful...see what I mean. yea I do not accept that one
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I see where you are going there but that's part of the problem with paladin s they get the crappy end of the stick that way. And really mine isn't that bad you should go look up some of the second ed codes jeeze they were harsh. Sneeze at the wrong time and you fell....
And no Varin took insults fairly well up to that last guy in the tower. And that was because we had done everything we could think of but it just wasnt good enough. Lol.
And ignoring an insult or two won't make him fall. Not unless he does it habitually. Note it is the last thing on the list. And that's the other problems with paladin is s things are black and white for them mini its why I was gonna make a cleric but you said Paladin which means a code. Its part of the class same with Cavaliers really.
And druids for that matter just a focus nature rather than honor.
no the shalelu thing is done. Its fine. You don't have to like being insulted, but I just won't have it be part of your code thats all.
I am just removing her from the caravan, because most of the players do not get the idea that s+#~ takes time. So I have posted the chance for the party to vote her off the island.
good thing this isnt second edition
anyhow I don't care what it is, but not that one. just go with the 4 is what I would say. Those are good. Is there a rule that says there has to be 5? I don't think so, and if there is I houerule it away.
A code is fine, just not a code with something like that. Look at how Boneuard plays his paladin in runelords. If you are rational it is fine, if you are not it is not.
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Also my good guys do tend to be black and white. My evil guys are my shades of grey guys. Well my NE guys are. My LE tend to be mini tyrants but they work well with others if they are respected. And because they care more about their goals than a code of rules they can ingore alot nor than my good guys who live by a set of rules.
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No I have had a code as short as two and another on a 1st ed guy that came right out of the boon at 27 rules bleck. And Dms back then loved tk catch you between two rules to watch you squirm. It was great though because if you choose wisely the greater of the two you wouldnt fall but made for great rp as you set off to atone because you felt you should. But then there were the ducks who said oh you violated the code in the least little way you fell now keep playing this guy you get no chance for redemption and have nothing on a plain old fighter of your lvl good luck.
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As for voting her off I see Koya and Sandru doing it.
Koya because she is a danger to the child and Sandru because if he doesnt he fails as a Caravan master. Someone has paid for passage a thousand times over and he is letting g some one who is threatening her remain in the caravan. Nah.... if that got out it would ruin him.
then go with the 4, I like things simple...but I am going to push you to be a little less black and white. Most of the party is very much gray area good if you are a this is what it is and nothing can change my mind. Or this person has insulted me and now I must insult them back then it will be a short trip to leaving the caravan with Shalelu.
There will be lots of potential traps for a stark black and white character, not on purpose but because that is how I tend to play, a character that is more open to seeing more avenues than one will have no problem.
i think a great example is the issue w Sandru. This is where you let it go. Varin would have kept on until Sandru said he was wrong.
He told you to be gracious and you weren't. Thats ok, but it pissed him off. not me. but him.
look man. I have told you how I play it. You can either let it go or not let it go. this has been brewing since before you joined up.
i am not retconning the whole thing. I am not changing the relationship scores. If you don't want to play then don't play.
this is not a punishment, in fact the party has gain thousands of gold worth of gear due to this situation as the goblin keeps trying to fix things.
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I know but p aladins have to be black and white that's why they are white knights. And shinning exemplars of good. And law....
And I really am kinda mad about the whole sandru let him walk into a trap let the woman lie on him then jumped on him and didnt say a word to her. Sandru knows... Visirik knkws he's a paladin knows that is one that's not gonna slide and only got onto Visirik that was sorta b!@$+!%+ty for a friend to do. And even worse since the whole secne was a dm misread. Keep the shaelu points I'm just mad about the Sandru ones. And it is supposed to be really hard to lose these and here I am so far in the hole j almost might as well reroll already.
go read the gameplay thread.
and i disagree with you on paladins. you could be a womanizing alcoholic and still be a paladin if you are there when the time comes. you stand and fight for what is right
are you f@!%in kidding me
she just apologized to you and you stormed off
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Okay. But mean it have a witchdotor half built. Gonna do rage prophet.
But I get where you are coming from with her. I do but to your party it feels like your punishing us with her. For s+*$ we didnt even do. You should have had her go kill some stuff and Exiel herself and come back happy and at peace with herself. Or something. Equally saccharine lol. But really I feel like I have been punished for making g what you asked me to make.
dude you asked what I preferred. i told you.
And it is completely fair. Exiel new about her past (she even told him about having fingers chewed off by goblins) and chose to ignore it because he decided he didn't like it then he went and told her that she could execute the goblin if she wanted to. No he falls he loses do not pass go.
The party is where they are because elf party actions, so don't give me that. I am not punishing anyone. I told the party the game is NOT on easy mode. If you make a poor choice you get a warning then you lose.
well, she has approached you and said that, so you need to respond.
The sandru thing lies where it is. I disagree with you on what he did. She walked in and talked and you replied then she left. He asked you to act differently. You think it was unfair, I don't. As far as I/Sandru are concerned the incident is over.
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Yes but the next thing out of her mouth was lies and you cannot tell me any character of honor would have stood by and let someone lie about him. If it was the real middle ages we would have been dueling over that.
Sandru should have spoken up for Visirik if he had Visirik would have differed to Sandru since he was defending his honor and good name. But he didnt there is no way a paladin coukd have not responded to that that was just an insult it was slander to make him look dishonorable. And he got slipped down for it. At this point unless Sandru says he's sorry I don't think Visirik will want anything to do with him. And here's the thing see how he is treating her right now? That's what he would have done from the get go if she had been the least bit open to it but no she had to rudely badger and Insult him then lie about him.
Well you can go rival w Sandru that is your choice, that is valid.And she told you in game that she did not hear you. Since I did not hear it neither did she. That is truth.
I'm thrilled it happened it brought it all to a head and now we are past it
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That's fair now that she has admitted it. But no like I'm not going to pursue a relationship of any sort with him til he apologises. This is someone who already knows Visirik and still did him like that. Its rather dishonorable. And Sandru should know how Visirik feels about that. And that is the the problem with honorable characters you cross that honor and until you make a move to make amends your in the wrong. Stupid honor.
ok, I'm just telling you that I disagree with you. So don't be upset if he never apologizes, cause he is not going to.
remember he doesn't know you that well. You know Ameiko, and him a little. Just make sure you are civil to him because he will tell you to leave the caravan. I am worried that you take no responsibility for how that went. You are partially to blame.
dude now i am getting mad. me personally. you were not set up. so stop saying that crap.
wow I am really really pissed off right now
well go charge in there and fight the dragon! find your history it could be in the hovel
i was expecting you to charge in ready to slay all the evil beasts I have in the hovel...but you went and were cautious
so google drive, is SUPER easy once you get it
So you log into your gmail account on the top right of the screen there is a checkerboard looking icon, click on that then click on "Drive"
then on the left side of the screen there is a red "Create" button click on that then select "Spreadsheet"
then in the top right just click on the share button and set it to share with public so that everyone can Edit it then post the link so everyone can edit it, then you don't have to touch it ever again once you post the link, I can put it in my profile or you can put it in campaign tab
Just reviews gp thread a post was eaten
You can assume Sandru explained the entire purpose of the trip to you
Also any luck on the google spreadsheet?
Been a mess of posts, darinius asked you about apsu and I didn't want you to miss it
It's ok
Just didn't want it to be missed
Good rp opp
Just a reminder about te loot sheet and your stat line
Ah ha
Hadn't seen that
Meh. I've known it was dead for a long time.
All good
I've really enjoyed way of the wicked