Animal Domain - Wolf Domain


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Thinking about building a new cleric, what gods would allow this domain?

Here's the blurb from SRD:

Other nature-themed classes with access to domains may select an animal or terrain domain in place of a regular domain.

Thanks

Liberty's Edge

You have to go by RAW on this, so unless you can find a cleric that offers this one then cant. Except for separatist I think.


None by raw.

Sczarni

Separatist Cleric archetype.


Nefreet wrote:
Separatist Cleric archetype.

Even the seperatist clerics access to the domain is a little iffy because they're not a druid.

Sczarni

Separatist Cleric wrote:
A separatist selects one domain from her deity’s domain list, and a second domain that is not on her deity’s domain list.

No ambiguity at all. As long as the second domain is not on her deity's domain list, it's open game. Ideally it would work the best if the player roleplayed a little, though. My newly created Halfling Separatist Cleric of Milani views her Hawk familiar (and thusly, the Eagle Domain that she got it from) as an integral message of freedom and liberty (and a nifty way to deliver touch Healing spells).

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
Separatist Cleric archetype.

Even the seperatist clerics access to the domain is a little iffy because they're not a druid.

The druid domains were released in the same book (Ultimate Magic) as the Separatist cleric archetype. Surely they thought of using them together. If they hadn't wanted them to work like that, they should have done what they did with inquisitions (again, in the very same book), and make them domain-like, but not actual domains.

So I see no reason why you can't do it.


Cleric is not a "Nature based class with domains", and so cannot have one of those domains, even a separatist one. They were simply leaving it open for any future class that might be designed, like a spontaneous druid type, or a ranger archetype that gets a domain.

A message of freedom and liberty does not make you a nature-based class.

Liberty's Edge

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The web supplement, which is linked in the additional resources, lists which sub-domains are available for which deities.

The animal domains are not on that list.

Precedent has been set, that anything that requires GM discretion for whether it is allowed or not, is not allowed in PFSOP unless explicitly indicated that it is allowable in the official FAQ, Additional Resources, the Guide, or the clarification compilation thread.

In this case, this is a GM discretion issue. At best, expect table variation as to whether you actually have access to an animal domain as a Cleric, regardless whether it is separatist or not.

I am 99% positive that based on precedence and the lack of these animal domains being in the web supplement, that they are not available to Clerics.

Sczarni

99 is a big number. You might want to downscale that a bit, given the number of Clerics in PFS that have done exactly this.

Liberty's Edge

Nefreet wrote:
99 is a big number. You might want to downscale that a bit, given the number of Clerics in PFS that have done exactly this.

Just because they've done it (and no matter if the number is 99% of all clerics) does not mean that it is anywhere near the correct way to do things in PFS.

Liberty's Edge

Just went and re-read the intro text for these domains.

The line about "other nature-themed classes" seems to be a GM-discretion call, and therefore unless Mike explicitly says its legal, then it is not.

Cleric and Inquisitor, by themselves, are not nature-themed classes. Although if you chose the right deity you might have an argument for a Home GM.

But in PFS, they are not, therefore these domains are not viable for a Cleric or Inquisitor.


Clerics of Gozreh, the diety of nature, aren't nature themed?

Sczarni

This question seems to be resurfacing a lot recently.

Scarab Sages

Nefreet wrote:
Separatist Cleric wrote:
A separatist selects one domain from her deity’s domain list, and a second domain that is not on her deity’s domain list.
No ambiguity at all. As long as the second domain is not on her deity's domain list, it's open game. Ideally it would work the best if the player roleplayed a little, though. My newly created Halfling Separatist Cleric of Milani views her Hawk familiar (and thusly, the Eagle Domain that she got it from) as an integral message of freedom and liberty (and a nifty way to deliver touch Healing spells).

Only exception is a few of the animal/terrain domains actually alter or require druid class features: Serpent Domain's Venom Immunity (ex) replaces the normal Druid's Venom Immunity. The Vermin Domain's Vermin Friend (ex) requires access to Wild Empathy to function.

And on a side note, Heroes of the Wild includes an Inquisitor archetype that gains access to animal/terrain domains. Zero clarification regarding the above.

The Exchange

According on Animal Archive, wolves belongs to: Gozreh (all animals), Lamashtu, Shelyn and Zon-Kuthon if gone rabid.

See no problem for these clerics.


I would argue that Gaurdian of Tradition and Green Faith Marshal would heavily imply that generally only Druids can take Animal and Terrain Domains.

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