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Just wondering, how many of the kids in the play either have played ROTR before the play or are now playing it because of the play? Were RPGs a new concept to them? Were they more focused on the story of the play itself rather than where the story's inspiration came from?

I have to say I was also confused by the map. It wasn't obvious which 2x2 house went with which 2x2 dotted line on the map. I was able to figure out from the text which house was G6 G7 or G9 (no G8?) but a map shouldn't make the layout more confusing.

But post like this really help with that confusion. Thank you for the information.

Dru Lee Parsec wrote:

I know the rest of the adventure paths tend not to be 100 pages long, but what a great way to start out.

Every issue is the same length, in all of the Pathfinder APs... Not sure what you mean by this?

Now that I see the sticky Burnt Offerings thread I'm going to read through the whole thing. You're right, all my questions are answered there.

Nice catch about "releasing something from down below" being in Thistletop, not the catacombs. I missed that.

I was also thinking that the sin spawns could bring the adventurers down to the catacombs provided I could give the players some sort of direction that the catacombs are where they're coming from. I think I'll have to make sure that Tsuto escapes because he's required to be alive later in the story. If I have him escape towards the catacombs BUT at the same time the party hears Ameiko's painful moans come from her cell then I can have them rescue her AND have a clue towards the catacombs.

Oh, and did anyone else notice:
Page 19 - a note from Ameiko's older brother Tsuto.

Two paragraphs later on page 19 : Tsuto was handed over to the Turandarok Academy to be raise outside of the Kaijitsu family. His older sister Ameiko . . .

I think I'll make Ameiko the older one.

Other than that, this adventure looks amazing. There are so many little story lines and so much information to work with. I know the rest of the adventure paths tend not to be 100 pages long, but what a great way to start out. There are several plot points that don't feel like a typical dungeon delve at all and I like that a lot.

Hi folks:

As I'm reading ROTR I'm missing the link that will let the PCs know about the Catacombs of Wrath. I see that Tsuto's journal implies that Nulia wants to release something "from below", but I'm missing how the PCs will realize that the Catacombs exist or where they are or why they would think that this is where the something from below is.

There's a lot of information in ROTR and I'm probably missing something among the vast amount of material (If this is the quality of the rest of the adventure paths then I'm hooked for sure).

So what plot points am I missing? What leads the PCs to the catacombs?

Thanks

Greg

While Crypt of the Everflame is the first module that makes full use of the Pathfinder rules you may also enjoy "Hollow's Last Hope"
http://paizo.com/store/downloads/pathfinder/pathfinderModules/35E/v5748btpy 82qz

This is a FREE 1st level adventure which you can download immediately. It was the first adventure that my group played and we really enjoyed it. We're following it up with Crown of the Kolbold King
http://paizo.com/store/downloads/pathfinder/pathfinderModules/35E/v5748btpy 7wix

We're nearly done with that module. I'm going to try to fit in a quick self created module and then we'll move right into Revenge of the Kolbold King which is another free module
http://paizo.com/store/downloads/pathfinder/pathfinderModules/35E/v5748btpy 83w1

If everyone survives that then we're going to wrap it up with "Hungry are the Dead"
http://paizo.com/store/downloads/pathfinder/pathfinderModules/35E/v5748btpy 85en
That module continues the story line. However, the module "Carnival of Tears" also fits the Falcon's Hollow story line so we may fit that one in as well.
http://paizo.com/store/downloads/pathfinder/pathfinderModules/35E/v5748btpy 80op

I have noticed that to run the older modules (everything before "Everflame") there are references to the 3.5 monster manual. Most of the stat blocks are there, but you may need to reference the 3.5 monster manual from time to time. In fact, in the stat blocks they make a reference to the page in the Monster Manual that references that monster. For example, this : (MM 72) means "Monster Manual page 72".

So if you have the 3.5 books and you want to try out a very well written free module then "Hollow's Last Hope" is a great starting point. For many of us "Last Hope" has become "The Keep On The Borderlands" of Pathfinder. It's the first module that many of us ever ran and it holds that place in our memory the same way "Keep on the Borderlands" does for those of us who started with the Blue and Red boxes.

The owner of my local game store told me yesterday that the book will be officially available today (21st) which is also what I'm reading here. He does his ordering from his distributors on Thursdays. So even though he's reserved 4 of them he won't officially "ask" for it until tomorrow. He says they'll be delivered the next day on Friday.

I get off work at 3. I have a one hour commute. I expect to have one in my hands by 4:02pm on Friday. I will be back home and in geek bliss by 4:20pm

heh heh heh. I can't wait.

Can we just not do this, please?

These sorts of side-swipes and one-up-isms are unnecessary and detrimental to the hobby. Pathfinder stands on its own feet as a great game; you're not proving anything by clawing at the heels of its competitors.

It's not D&D version anything. It's Pathfinder. And it's our choice of RPG.

How can I describe how I feel about this book. Hmm . . .

Me = little kid
Aug 13th = 3 days before Christmas
PFRPG Hardcover = New Bike

Yep, that's about right.

[quote]Quick question: how much tweaking did 1st level modules require?
We calculated CMB and used a base of 12 + CMB instead of 15. We created our characters giving them HP equal to Max Hit Dice for first level + con mod + racial bonus. When I have to reference a monster from the 3.5 monster manual I don't modify it at all. I just calculate the CMB if the player does something that requires it. So overall there wasn't much modification at all.

Regarding CMB. My players are doing a lot more grappling, throwing, pushing, etc in their battles because it's so much easier to handle those rules.

The only other thing we notice is that the players seem to level up sooner. I may move to the slower advancement table.

We're playing D1: Crown of the Kobold King right now (in fact, just last night) and it's a blast. We got there via D0: Hollow's last hope and I also bought Pathfinder Chronicles: Guide to Darkmoon Vale as a supplement.

D1: is actually much bigger than I expected it to be. I have a small party of only two players and one NPC. But we picked up another in the storyline (No spoilers) and he's helping out a bit.

D1.5 is a natural extension of D1 and in fact, it requires some plot points from D1.

D4 is sick and twisted and really cool. It also wraps up the storyline while also allowing the possibility for a particular foe to return to haunt your party at a later date.

I don't have E1: Carnival of Tears but I think my players will like it. However, I've read reviews that E1 is particularly violent and gruesome so be forewarned.

But that series of PDFs along with the Class Monsters Revisited would be a really good selection. Since I have most of them already I'm going to start with the Burnt Offerings adventure path. I'm looking forward to seeing how they build a 1st level to 20th level story line continuity. And I'm REALLY looking forward to playing it.

I kind of wish my icon had a nose.

Aha! OK, it's in the final book. Cool.

So the original is in the Monster Manual!? That would be why I couldn't find it in the PHB or DMG. The one place I didn't look and there it is. Oh well.

Thanks for the help.

I was just searching the PFRPG Beta rules for the word "Slam" to find out how a slam attack differs from a standard attack and I only saw references to Slam Shield.

Does anyone know where (what page) the slam attack is described? Or, is it only described in the 3.5 ruleset? If so, I couldn't find an index entry in the PHB or DMG for "Slam" either.

Or, is there any difference at all? Maybe "Slam" is just a word that describes a standard attack that does it's 1dX damage by thumping you with something big.

Thanks

Jason:

I should say that right now the PFRPG Beta is the ONLY game system I'm playing. I'm so looking forward to the hardcover books.

Thank you for all your work. And thank you as well to everyone else working on the project: The editors, the artist, the production team, Lisa, the folks who put product in boxes and ship out the orders every day, and so on.

That's another problem I have with that method: You find out that your backhand slashes suck, and you do nothing about it until days or even weeks after? You're lucky that you survived that blunder once, might not be you survive it twice, so better make sure you don't repeat that error. That's what experience really is: Learning from your mistakes. Not repeating them until you think about it a week when nothing much is going on. Life might never give you that slow week, at least not until your project has tanked and the boss is having your head for dinner.

When you have "down time" then you have time to train, study new spells, etc. I think Gygax's original idea was to somehow explain the sudden jump in stats and new spells (which is much easier to handle from a game play perspective than a gradual, continuous growth of experience and is therefore easier to manage as a DM) by giving a story based reason on why you needed to take take time to train. It certainly gives an excuse for the sudden knowledge of new spells by spell casters (I almost said "Magic Users". I still keep forgetting and refer to "rogues" as "thieves".)

But then again, that's just me and the way I play the game based on my initial experience with AD&D. I think it's kind of cool how different people can run different style games based on the same rules. It really shows how different people have different ways of telling a story and the game system can adapt to those different styles.

I had a question about levels in the adventure paths that I think this thread has answered, but I thought I'd better ask anyway.

The first chapter says it's for levels 1 to 3. The 2nd chapter says it's for levels 4-6. Does that mean that the first chapter has enough battle, puzzles, role playing goals etc to bring 4 characters from 1st level all the way to 4th level? Or do I need to build home made side quest to bring their XP up to the correct number?

As far as when we level up, I'm an old school D&D blue box and AD&D 1.0 guy and I still like the old Gygax concept that leveling up is what happens when you take time out to study, practice, and reflect on what you've learned. That just feels better than saying "OK, you have enough points so when you wake up this morning you suddenly feel stronger, tougher, faster, and you realize you can deal more damage than you did last night." The former process feels more real to me while the latter feels a bit like a video game. I really want to avoid having my game feeling like it has "power ups" and "save points".

So I like to at least have a point in the story where I can say something like "It's been a quiet week at Falcon's Hollow and you've been able to spend time practicing with your sword. Back when you were battling the monsters at the Dwarven monastery you realized that your backhand slashes were feeling really awkward. So you decided to practice that move in order to become a better fighter with smoother transitions from forward slashes to backhand slashes. There's a small oak tree outside the town limits that you used as your practice dummy. It received the brunt of your practice blows and will likely never bear another acorn, much less remain standing after the next storm. You've gained one level."

The entire purpose of the First Ammendment, and indeed the entire Bill of Rights, was to place limits on government's...

The "no religious test" statement in article six clearly states that religion should be a non-issue in government. As I clearly stated, it doesn't mean you can't be religious, it means you can't make a hiring decision based on any sort of religious test.

In both cases (article 6 and the 1st amendment) the purpose was not only to limit the government's power, but also to limit, to the point of exclusion, the power of religion in government.

It was not intended to say that religion has no bearing on government, as has been suggested.

Moreover, the moment you bring religion into government you are excluding part of society. A secular government in inclusive because it means everyone has the same rights and nobody, including the Christians, can have somebody else's religious dogma forced upon them via the force of law.

This country and it's laws were founded on Biblical Beliefs. They are inseparable unless you want to discuss ending this consitution and writing a new one.

Fact: The word God is not mentioned in the Constitution even once. Religion is mentioned only twice and both time to limit it's power. First we have article 6

"no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Notice that it doesn't say that you can't be religious. It's saying that religion should have no bearing in the government.

Fact: The first words of the first sentence of the first amendment say:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Notice that the FIRST statement is to limit religion, only THEN do they say that everyone has the right to believe whatever they want. But the FIRST statement is that the government does not support religion.

But what about the attitudes of the founding fathers? Let's look at Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist.

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

Yes, the separation of church and state is real. It should be noted that this letter was in response to the Danbury Baptist who were afraid that the US would promote some other religion than theirs. It was the Baptist, the religious folks, who wanted the separation to exist.

But maybe that's not clear enough. So let's continue to look at the writing of the founding fathers. How about the Treaty of Tripoli which was written by George Washington, signed by John Adams, and ratified unanimously. Article 11 of the treaty of Tripoli says:

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Let's look closely at that first sentence:

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;

The facts seem to contradict your assumption that "This country and it's laws were founded on Biblical Beliefs." But more importantly, a secular nation is a nation which guarantees the MOST freedom for all Americans. In a secular nation you are guaranteed the freedom to worship as you please. But you can't force that religion on others just as they cannot force their religion upon you. So the moment you start talking about how we should put the Bible into our laws and our political process should reflect your personal religious views you're out of the conversation. Done, That's it, gone. You have no right AT ALL to force any of your religious beliefs on anyone.

I however, have every right to fight for the rights of ALL Americans because I believe in equal rights for everyone. As our 14th amendment put it:

"no state shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"

If the state provides community property protection and the right to make medical decisions for my spouse then it should provide the same rights for ALL spouses.

Notice that as an atheist I'm fighting for equal rights for EVERYONE because my morality comes from an empathy for other human beings.

However, the religious sense of morality that is fighting against equal rights for gay people is saying "there is a subset of Americans who should not have the same rights as the rest of us".

And that is the very definition of bigotry.

OK, trying again with the same photo but on Flickr

A wizard's decision

Dru Lee Parsec, I’ve been playing FAR longer than 15 years, 22 years in fact, and the campaign world has been around for that long. The one that’s currently running, version 3, has only been around 15 years.

Do you have players who have been with you the whole time?

We use max HP + con modifier + racial bonus. As we level up we roll the dice to see how many points they gained while leveling up. If the player isn't happy with his roll he gets to re-roll ONCE but he MUST take whatever comes up on the 2nd roll.

I bought their "Chunky Dungeons" set and my goal is to use that kit plus the watchtower kit to build Droskar's Crucible, the dwarven monastery from the D), D1 and D1.5 modules. I think I may use their "Hinterlands" kit for the exterior meadow and the tall grass in the courtyard.

If/When I finish it I'll post some photos here.

It didn't work.

http://bighugelabs.com/flickr/output/motivator3539034.jpg

I gave D&D 4th ed. a try… I’ve been playing for six months, and will finish the mini campaign I’m running using the system in about two months, but looking to the future, I’ve realized 4th ed. doesn’t do it for me and my players. I’m thinking of using Pathfinder for my next campaign.

. . .

Thank you in advance for any pointers and help you can give me.

Hope everyone has an excellent night.

>I’m getting the book when it comes out, but I don’t think I can wait that long to play, and am getting ready to use the Beta Rules for the game.

Oh absolutely get the free PDF. That's the way to go. The only down side is if you have several people creating characters at once and one of them needs to look for feats and the other wants to read about bloodlines. But then again, I have the softcover of the Beta rules and I have the same issue with having only one copy of the book when several people need to look up different things.

As far as changes from the Beta, the only one we've incorporated is a change of the DC for Combat Maneuver Bonus from 15 + CMB to 12 + CMB. That seems to make the Combat Maneuvers a bit more useful without making them too deadly.

Another thing that confused me was the Monk's flurry of blows. FOB replaces two weapon fighting feat instead of stacking with it. That confused me but the folks here cleared it up.

The other thing that made me stumble coming from a 3.5 rule set mind set was skill points vs. skill ranks. In PF 1 point buys 1 rank. If you buy a rank in a class skill then you get a one time +3 bonus. That's it. Easy. But I was use to "in class: and "out of class" skills costing different amounts. In PF 1 skill point buys 1 rank.

The guys I play with aren't rules fanatics so we don't get into deep discussions of how well balanced a specific rule is. I know there are people who can discuss why the leveling up of base attack bonus for such and such a class isn't as effective as the advancement of BAB for another class and so on. But we don't worry about that stuff. We just try to play and have fun.

BTW, the Free module "D0 Hollow's Last Hope" is an awesome starting point. Once I downloaded that I had to buy D1, download the free D1.5 and then bought D4 "Hungry are the dead". I'll have to build a couple of home grown adventures in between some of those modules to give my players a chance to level up. But those are some very well written modules. You should at least check out the free ones.

I hope that helps.

Cheers.

I hope this works

>I view Pathfinder as a big set of houserules

I find that opinion a bit odd. The vast majority of PFRPG is a restating of the 3.5 OGL rules with some fixes such as :

d6 hit dice for Sorcerers and Wizards. This makes the low level survivability for those classes much better without giving an overwhelming advantage at higher levels.

Sorcerer bloodlines: Fantastic. Once again, it makes a low level character vastly more playable and it gives us more background information for role playing those characters.

Channeling energy: I see this as a nice compromise making a cleric more than the "heal me" guy without resorting to the overwhelmingly bad 4E healing surges mechanic.

CMB: A better and easier mechanic than the 3.5 grapple and we all know that the basic CMB mechanic may change between the beta and the release. I'm using a DC of 12 + CMB instead of 15 + CMB and that seems to work fairly well.

But there is one major reason why I'm still quite happy and interested in Pathfinder:

3.5 is no longer supported at Wizards. I'm not interested in playing 4E where 1st level wizards can cast a spell every single round of combat (no daily spell limits). Casting spells is suppose to be hard. It's suppose to take a lot out of you physically and mentally. In 4E a spell is just a gun with unlimited ammo.

I don't like the 4E healing surges where even a fighter can cast a heal spell on himself. That really changes the dynamic of the game and it completely changes the role playing of the game. The 4E guys will tell you that a healing surge represents a rest. But can you normally heal 1/4 of your hit points simply by resting? And if it's a rest then what's happening when you use a healing surge in combat? A 1/4 of your total hit point heal up in a 6 second round? Sounds like a spell to me.

In 4E saving throws are now just a timer telling you when an effect ends. The whole role playing aspect of a saving throw is gone. The stress of "Am I poisoned?" is gone. Now it's just "How long am I poisoned for? Still poisoned this round? Oh well, better luck next round".

4E just doesn't feel like D&D to me. It's a good system, but it's so different that it's not the system I want to play. I started with the blue box basic set and played most of my games with 1st edition AD&D rules. 3.5 feels like the same game, just more complete and generally easier to play.

So if you want to play a 3.5 OGL game then what are your options? Well, you can buy the increasingly difficult to find 3.5 core rule books. I had a heck of a time finding a 3.5 PHB on EBay and I still don't have a hard cover version. And as time goes by those books will only get more expensive and harder to find. As we try to bring new players into our game the lack of newly printed 3.5 books will become a greater problem.

But with Pathfinder we have a system that is alive and well. We'll have a single book with all the info in it for GMs and players (Wonderful! Try to find info for a critical hit in 3.5. Some of it is in the PHB, some of it is in the DMG on one page and the rest of it in the DMG in a sidebar) AND we have a company producing very high quality modules in that system. As far as I can tell there are far more PFRPG modules available than 4E modules.

So while it's certainly possible to still play a 3.5 game using the original rule books, if you want a living, dynamic, well supported 3.5 game then Pathfinder is your game.

I'm still excited.

Now, I don't want to get into it about Prop. 8, but does anyone think that calling a group of people Un-American simply for taking the opposite side of an issue from you is what the founders would have wanted?

Prop 8 was church inspired bigotry at it's worse. I wouldn't use the word "un-American" as much as I would use the word "Vile", "Disgusting", "Hateful" and "Bigoted".

May I remind everyone that the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution says “no state shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” Prop 8 is in direct violation of the 14th amendment and is a violation of the basic right to equality and fairness that we should be striving for in this country.

I wrote about this topic at length on my blog here: http://www.brouelette.com/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi/2008/10/18#noOn8

We were just rolling up some new characters. My step daughter and I both had +4 on our bluff skill.

Me: My +4 bluff is better than your +4 bluff

Her: No it isn't

Me: [grabs a d20 and rolls a 14] Yes it is

Her: [grabs another d20 and rolls a 3] Yep, it is.

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My favorite is from the penny arcade D&D podcast:

"Would it help at all if I set the dwarf on fire? I'm just askin' "

For future reference how do you guys feel about numeric ciphers? ;)

I really locked into the idea that the lumber consortium imposes taxes on everything (sometimes even long after the purchase). So the ferry ride across the river was 1 GP each (plus a 10% lumber tax of 1 sp). Meals have a 10% lumber tax. Purchases at the store have a 10% to 20% lumber tax. Even the money that they receive from the herbalist for completing the quest gets taxed at 10%.

If the characters gamble at the tavern their winnings get taxed, the cost to sleep on the floor of the inn get taxed, everything they do that causes a profit gets taxed. This way, the characters are instantly inserted into the world where the Lumber company runs everything and inserts itself into the lives of every person in Falcon's Hollow.

I admit I rather liked the illustrations of the 4th edition trolls, simply because it stepped them towards "giant/ogre/sasquatch" and away from "vine horror/swamp thing/shambling mound mk II". Trolls have seemed rather...planty to me, since 2nd edition. I found the 4th editon "ogre + regeneration = sucks to be you" version aesthetically pleasing.

I like the idea of going in as a player instead of a DM. The idea of "less pressure" appeals to me.

I discovered that on meetup.com you can email other people interested in playing without having to pay to start my own group. So I emailed a couple of folks locally to see if there's any interest.

The tavern or coffee shop idea is also a good idea. I've played D&D with several really highly educated, interesting and intelligent people. But let's face it, RPGs also attract a certain fringe element that I'm not sure I want to invite to my house. The coffee shop meeting sounds like a great way to find a middle ground.

I'll check out penandpaper.com as well. Also, my friends do enjoy board games and I just bought Settlers of Catan on ebay for $29 (Whoo hoo! Cheap). So maybe that will be a way in.

There is a group of folks at work who play, several of them are in my department and are friends of mine. But they live down in Sacramento and I live way up in the mountains. It's a 45 mile drive to work each way for me. In any case, they play every other Saturday from 6 to midnight but it's in a town almost 50 miles away and I'd be driving back up into the mountain roads in (occasional) snow after midnight. But I like these folks as friends and I think I'll try a few of their games anyway.

Thanks for the advice.

I'd love to run a pathfinder game. I thought I had a group of people who wanted to play. They're a family that I've been friends with for a couple of years. I went over there the other night and when we got to the part about how you can bee any type of character class like a bard, cleric, sorcerer or wizard when the mother stopped me saying : We're Christians, I can't have my kids playing a game that has magic in it.

WTF!? What does playing a game that refers to magic have to do with Christianity? To be offended in any way you'd have to

A) Believe that magic is real

B) Think that it's somehow harmful

C) Think that a game where a spell is essentially just another way to say "hit for X points of damage" is somehow an evil corrupting force.

I was pretty surprised. I tend to live a rational, evidence based life and that just blew me away. There was no logic at all to her argument, but it's their family so I let it pass and we played a different game.

In any case, I need to find some players. Meetup.com charges about $20 a month to create a meetup group and all the other D&D groups on the site are 40 to 50 miles away. I may have to just pay the money and build a meetup group for my town.

There's also a very small game shop in town and I'll ask the owner if I could put a flyer up on his bulletin board.

I'm just a little worried about inviting random people into my home.

I should mention that I'm in my 40's and my wife and friends kind of think that the whole D&D thing is pretty geeky and weird. So it's a tough sell to try to get them to play.

So how do you folks find new players that are compatible? How do you "screen" them?

Note: I had a similar problem when I asked for an email reminder of my password. It seems that copying the password from the email and pasting it into the password field does not work. The effect of that is that it "keeps asking for your password". This might be part of what you're experiencing.

However, typing the password in rather than copy/pasting it does work and that solved my problem.

I hope that helps.

Somewhere on this site is a Pathfinder Alpha character sheet PDF that's free. I have it on my hard drive but I can't find it on the site. It's exactly what you need, the PF character sheet with no background and the PF logo in the corner.

I'll see if I can track it down for you.

edit:

I found this thread
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderR PG/feedback/alpha2/general/alpha2CharacterSheets

There are several fan created sheets there.

Still looking for the official sheet.

Edit again:

I cannot find the Alpha character sheet anywhere. Tell ya what. Go to my gbguitars dot com web site and go to the contact us page. Send me an email and I'll email you back the PDF that I have.

Did you have problems with your players due to:

To me, it just felt like the dungeon was really illogical. Maybe a way to get around that is via the story line that:

In general, I had a tough time getting around the idea of "how the heck to the bad guys survive in this mess?"

However, I may still try it on my players. For $1 you can't complain much unless the module kills off all your players.

I want it, But I'll just have to wait until July.

Instead of pre-ordering I'm going to support my local game shop and buy it there.

Oh, and if Goblin snakes will be missing does that leave room for Green Dragons AND Ice Weasels?

If there's more than one person in your group (there better be) can one person ride the disk and another person give him a push to float him across a pit?

If you can shoot an arrow into a tree or wall or something on the other side of the pit and have a silk rope attached to that arrow then I think you could ride the disk and pull yourself across. But I wonder if you can be pushed and float across a chasm like you're riding an air hockey puck?

Hi folks. By browsing around the website I discovered the WorldWorks card stock dungeon models. They look amazing. But when I came back to the paizo site later the only way I could find them was via the company search. If I didn't remember that they were from World Works I couldn't have found them.

I'd suggest putting them in the product tree under either store/gaming aids/gaming mats or store/gaming aids/terrain. They look like great products but I only knew about them by following a link from a message board. Searching the store didn't lead me to them.

There seems to be a lot of Paizo product available that either isn't linked through the store or is not easily found via the "tree search".

Lead us to the good stuff and we'll keep buying it ;-)

Thanks. I hope that helps.

The foothills of the Sierra Mountains in California. We're about halfway between Sacramento and Lake Tahoe.

It looks a lot like this
http://www.brouelette.com/blog/images/snow08_6.jpg

and this (That's my buddy "Thunder")

http://www.brouelette.com/blog/images/snow08_4.jpg

right now.

* It's a living game. 3.5 is dead as far as WotC is concerned, and no new material for it will appear.

* PFRPG is produced by one of the best companies in the business, long known for their high quality and outstanding customer support (OK Paizo, where's that store discount ?)

* It will have a wide third party support (it already has - SORD, TOS, Q-workshop dice, minis...)

Honestly, look at the quality of their modules. Download D0 or D1.5 for a free example. I did and I went out and purchased D1 and D4 because the quality of the writing and design was so good. (Then I bought the guide to Darkmoon Vale as well. My local game shop now knows me by first name.)

Plus, we have TONS of d20 material out there that's totally usable with Pathfinder. Sure, 4e says it's compatible with d20. But how compatible is a previous 3.5/d20 module with 4e when 4e characters have double the hit points, everyone has half a dozen or more healing surges , and wizards can cast magic missile spells every single round?

Look at the Classic Dungeon Crawl series. There are dozens of classic AD&D style old school adventures that are completely Pathfinder compatible.

So I see it this way: If you want to play a 3.5 type system instead of a 4e type of system then you'll want to play something that is well supported, alive and well. Pathfinder is your best choice in that situation. And as a nice side effect, you also get a cleaner system than the 3.5 core books. It's a win-win.

I just got my pdf copy and oh my gosh it's huge!

It's just like it's 1978 all over again. The art, the maps, the text, it brings me back to the early days of the game. This is the stuff that got me hooked on the game.

And to all the atheists, uhm, have a nice day. ;-)

Happy Holidays to everyone. And understand that by saying "Happy Holidays" I am not waging any sort of anti-religious war on Christmas. As we've just seen by looking at this thread we have folks who celebrate Christmas, Hanuka, Kwanzaa, The winter Solstice, and folks like me who just like to partake in a cultural celebration with family and friends but without any religious overtones at all.

Besides, even if I knew which one you celebrated we still have the New Year just one week later. So we still have "holidays" plural, and I hope you have a great New Year as well.

So in the best, happiest, most inclusive and not in any way a war on Christmas sense of the phrase may I once again wish everyone here:

Happy Holidays!

Greg,

I suspect that your downloads info might just be out of sync on our servers, and it will correct itself in a little while. We'll check into it when we get into the office, though.

I had logged in as greg@ (my domain name).com when I placed my order.

However, at some time in the past I made an order to the same address and same credit card on an email account registrations@ (my domain name).com

What happened is that when I entered my order under greg@xxxxxxxx.com the confirmation email and downloads appeared in the registrations@xxxxxxx.com account.

So I was looking in the account that I was logged in as when I placed the order and couldn't see it. The downloads actually appeared in the other account. Odd that it jumped to the other account rather than placing it in the account I ordered from.

But I have my downloads now so it's all good.

Greg

I was just reading another DM blog (which I've promptly lost the URL and now have no idea which one it was) and he had a couple of ideas that I'm going to start using.

Take some 3x5 cards and put the character's name, HP, and AC on it. As you roll initiative you just lay them out in order and insert a 3x5 card for each monster in the proper sequence. As monsters die just scratch out their stats and re-use for the next one. East to keep track of who moves when that way.

If a character is slowed, immobilized, needs to make a save at the start or end of his turn just take a 3x5 card and fold it in half making a tent. Write "Save", or "Immobile" or "Slowed" or whatever on the card and place it in front of the player. That way when it's their turn to act you won't forget that you have to handle this special situation.

Again, they're not PF specific, but I like the ideas.