Is athletic rush worth it?


Rules Discussion

Grand Lodge

It seems like you can only use its bonus for swimming, climbing or leaping as "The spell's bonuses apply during that action."
Which must mean the action you use to cast the focus spell.
I have read a lot of suggestions to use it for grapple or trip attacks, but I can't see how to make that work.


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It says the spell's bonuses apply during that action, the action you can do WHILE casting the spell, because some might claim you can't benefit from the spell's bonuses until AFTER you cast it. It doesn't say the bonuses ONLY apply during that action, and the spell has a duration instead of being instantaneous, so yes I would allow it for other Athletics actions during that round


Yeah, you just cast the spell and it lasts for 1 round.

As a bonus, you get a Subordinate action as part of the spellcasting that you can use on Stride, Leap, Climb, or Swim. As normal for these types of Subordinate actions, you don't necessarily have to use them to any effect. The note about applying the bonus from the spell to that action is because of timing of effects - without that, it would be ambiguous if the spell's effect applied during the Subordinate action, before the spell finishes being cast.

And the spells effect lasts for at least the rest of your turn that round, and depending on GM, until the top of the next round or until right before the start of your next turn.

So for example, cast the spell for one action; use the bonus Subordinate action to Stride (or Leap, or Climb as needed) towards an enemy; then spend another action on Trip to attack them with. Both the Stride and the Trip would get the bonus from the spell. And you still have one action left for your turn.

Grand Lodge

Thank you for clearing that up - I missed the 1 round duration part.

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This thread was flagged as in the wrong place, but this looks like a Second Edition rules question to me, meaning it's just fine? Can someone correct me if I'm wrong though please? Plus, it sounds like you got the help you needed, *Khan*!


As far as I can tell, PF1 doesn't have anything named "Athletic Rush"... Or Focus spells at all.

So this is probably the right place for the thread.

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