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Why is it in my subscriptions?


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Its part of the rulebook subscription line you have. I'm guessing you were assuming it would be part of the adventure subscription?

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Perses13 is right here!


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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

I am glad it is part of the Subscriptions now I disliked that all the previous ones were bespoke products. You can always skip it if you don't want it.

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Nicolas Paradise wrote:
I am glad it is part of the Subscriptions now I disliked that all the previous ones were bespoke products. You can always skip it if you don't want it.

We're glad you like this change! Thanks, Nicolas!


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Pathfinder Accessories, Rulebook Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber

Got my hands on this last night and looks fantastic. Love it.

Will say someone should take a look at Seoni's character sheet and spot check Force Barrage though. Least the PDF that I was looking through today has an interesting typo :D


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Yoshua wrote:

Got my hands on this last night and looks fantastic. Love it.

Will say someone should take a look at Seoni's character sheet and spot check Force Barrage though. Least the PDF that I was looking through today has an interesting typo :D

Ah, I'm happy you noticed that! I've been running some friends through Dawn of the Frogs (3/5 are new to TTRPGs), and for the fifth player I offered up the normal stock pre-gens (the multi-page ones without all the extra tips) for the four characters that I knew were coming in this box.

I printed out the new fold-out character sheet for Seoni, so that they could get the tips and explanations on their if they wanted them (even though it's a very different character spell-wise), and that might have caused some confusion to see that 1d4+4.

I am happy that they've handled sorcerous potency for force barrage well on this character sheet! The existing non-BB Seoni pre-gens could use an update to add the wording that each shard after the first only deals 1d4+1 damage.


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0xTJ wrote:
Yoshua wrote:

Got my hands on this last night and looks fantastic. Love it.

Will say someone should take a look at Seoni's character sheet and spot check Force Barrage though. Least the PDF that I was looking through today has an interesting typo :D

Ah, I'm happy you noticed that! I've been running some friends through Dawn of the Frogs (3/5 are new to TTRPGs), and for the fifth player I offered up the normal stock pre-gens (the multi-page ones without all the extra tips) for the four characters that I knew were coming in this box.

I printed out the new fold-out character sheet for Seoni, so that they could get the tips and explanations on their if they wanted them (even though it's a very different character spell-wise), and that might have caused some confusion to see that 1d4+4.

I am happy that they've handled sorcerous potency for force barrage well on this character sheet! The existing non-BB Seoni pre-gens could use an update to add the wording that each shard after the first only deals 1d4+1 damage.

There was that, +4 which I struggled to see why it was there, I think it is just poorly worded abbreviated text with a typo. If you have a single target and use all 3 actions it is +3, my guess is that first line assumes you are using 3 actions and it should be +3 not 4. Then it explains you can do separate shards each getting +1.

My interpretation:
The first line says for every action, the second line assumes you used 3 actions and has a typo. After this it explains you can break the 3 actions up.

Actual Text:
Force Barrage [one-action] to [three-actions] For every action you spend to cast this spell, you shoot a shard of magic toward a creature you can see within 120 feet. It hits automatically, dealing 1d4+4 force damage. Choose the target for each missile individually. If you choose the same target more than once, each shard after the first deals 1d4+1 damage.


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Yoshua wrote:

There was that, +4 which I struggled to see why it was there, I think it is just poorly worded abbreviated text with a typo. If you have a single target and use all 3 actions it is +3, my guess is that first line assumes you are using 3 actions and it should be +3 not 4. Then it explains you can do separate shards each getting +1.

My interpretation:
The first line says for every action, the second line assumes you used 3 actions and has a typo. After this it explains you can break the 3 actions up.

Actual Text:
Force Barrage [one-action] to [three-actions] For every action you spend to cast this spell, you shoot a shard of magic toward a creature you can see within 120 feet. It hits automatically, dealing 1d4+4 force damage. Choose the target for each missile individually. If you choose the same target more than once, each shard after the first deals 1d4+1 damage.

If it was all combined it would be 3d4+4, so I'm thinking it was just a plain typo (maybe from having "4" in the mind while writing). It could have snuck in if a previous version of that text did have 3d4+4, but I'd find that odd given that (as far as I've seen) the spell is always structured in terms of shards.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Pathfinder Accessories, Rulebook Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber
0xTJ wrote:
Yoshua wrote:

There was that, +4 which I struggled to see why it was there, I think it is just poorly worded abbreviated text with a typo. If you have a single target and use all 3 actions it is +3, my guess is that first line assumes you are using 3 actions and it should be +3 not 4. Then it explains you can do separate shards each getting +1.

My interpretation:
The first line says for every action, the second line assumes you used 3 actions and has a typo. After this it explains you can break the 3 actions up.

Actual Text:
Force Barrage [one-action] to [three-actions] For every action you spend to cast this spell, you shoot a shard of magic toward a creature you can see within 120 feet. It hits automatically, dealing 1d4+4 force damage. Choose the target for each missile individually. If you choose the same target more than once, each shard after the first deals 1d4+1 damage.

If it was all combined it would be 3d4+4, so I'm thinking it was just a plain typo (maybe from having "4" in the mind while writing). It could have snuck in if a previous version of that text did have 3d4+4, but I'd find that odd given that (as far as I've seen) the spell is always structured in terms of shards.

Good catch. The other fun part is that they left the word missile in there once too.

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Thank you for pointing this out to us everyone!

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