What would happen if inherently evil creature(say a demon or a undead) drew the balance card from the DOMTs?

[Maniacwyrm]

Like say a devil drew the balance card and it’s now chaotic good. Would it stop being a devil(since it will probably lose the evil and lawful subtype) or would it just be a devil that is suddenly all about kindness and liberty?

What about an undead like a lich or mummy? Technically they don’t have to commit evil acts to live(unlive?) so would they just have a crisis of conscience and starting doing good to make up for the evil stuff they did in the past?

[Mysterious Stranger]

There is at least one outsider that has changed alignments. I forget the exact detail but it was devil or demon and it did not lose the alignment subtype. Even if the outsider no longer follows the alignment that does not change the fact that they are made up of the essence of their original alignment.

If I remember correctly, they detected as boot good and evil.

[Melkiador]

This is basically the premise of Angel from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

[Pizza Lord]

To my knowledge, creatures with an alignment subtype maintain that alignment, as well as their actual alignment. It would be a CG devil with the lawful and evil subtype (barring some form or soul/substance changing alteration that is basically plot or GM discretion, like a devil becoming an angel).

[Maniacwyrm]

I see that’s interesting, I do seem to recall that there was few outsiders with different alignments to their typical alignment. So I guess they would just be good all of a sudden.

[happykj]

There is a city called Basrakal (from Campaign Setting Distant Realms). Those outsiders who changed their alignment remains their original form, so a CG devil is still a devil.

[Sysryke]

Melkiador wrote:

This is basically the premise of Angel from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Hate to disagree here, but I'll be that nerd. Different premise, with some similarities.

In the Buffyverse, a vampire is a relatively weak demonic spirit that drives out the human soul. Souls are not inherently good or evil in Buffy, but possessed of the capacity for compassion and conscience, which the vampiric demon generally lacks. Upon dying and then rising, a vampire is basically possessing the deceased humon shell, the soul cast out to whatever judgement it had coming. Angel is cursed to have his soul restored into his body, both fighting and surpressing the demon within him. His soul is tormented by the centuries of evil committed with his body, and he at first hides from the world, then slowly is motivated by sympathy for others suffering to try and right his wrongs. His whole thing is more of a redemption arc through punishment, suffering, repentance, and eventually love.

Even though I'm a sucker for first love, and the whole Buffy Angel tragic romance, a closer parallel to the OP would be Spike's character arc in the Buffy series. He slowly becomes a "good guy" while still fully a vampire possessed of only the demonic spirit. It's not until much later that he seeks to reclaim his human soul. Of course, by then the series had created several examples of demons not all being inherently evil, but more complex and nuanced just like any other sentient beings. So, eh, none of this lines up super well with the O.P.

Here endith the nerd diatribe:p

[Diego Rossi]

Mysterious Stranger wrote:

There is at least one outsider that has changed alignments. I forget the exact detail but it was devil or demon and it did not lose the alignment subtype. Even if the outsider no longer follows the alignment that does not change the fact that they are made up of the essence of their original alignment.

If I remember correctly, they detected as boot good and evil.

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Female risen succubus master spy 6/trickster 3 (Pathfinder RPG

Bestiary 68, Pathfinder RPG Advanced Player’s Guide 270,
Pathfinder RPG Mythic Adventures 44)
CN Medium outsider (chaotic, demon, extraplanar)

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Path to Redemption (Ex) XXXX’s hopeful path toward redemption has had some unique effects on her abilities as a demon. She no longer has the evil subtype, and she’s lost the use of some of her demonic spell-like abilities as detailed above. Her DR has changed from DR 10/cold iron or good to DR 10/cold iron or lawful. When she’s within 30 feet of a CR 6 or higher demon at the start of any turn, she must succeed at a DC 15 Fortitude save or be staggered for 1 round by flashbacks of her evil past.

AFAIK, she has further steps in her redemption. I think she ends CG, but she did lose the evil subtype while retaining the chaotic subtype.

Several angels have become LE.

Pathfinder Wiki wrote:

Servants

Ardad Lili has amassed an army of fallen angels, erinyes, female devils, damned souls, and deranged mortals, all with the intent to eventually invade Nirvana and finally rule part of the heavens.3

So, canon, it is possible for it to happen.

How and what the effects are is mostly a GM decision.