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Hello, I have some questions about Draconic Codex.

For PACT OF THE HERALD AND HOST :

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Activate—Breath of the Dragon [one-action] (concentrate) Frequency once

per day;

Why is there in the description : "You can’t use this ability again for 1d4 rounds." ?

It is no necessary because it is once per day.

For a whisper dragon, it is possible to obtain Draft Contract as alternate abilities.

Quote:

This

contract can grant a single boon or ability, the extent of which is dependent on the power of the dragon, in exchange for one piece of knowledge the mortal possesses.
The mortal must willingly sign their true name to the contract, as well as the knowledge they wish to surrender. Upon signing, the mortal forgets the bartered information, which cannot be
restored by any means short of a wish ritual; if they restore this knowledge, they lose the
boon granted by the contract.

What is the obtained boon or ability (bonus score ?) ?

Is it a minor/major boon as divine intercession from deities ?
Must I choose from the existing boons from deities ?

ENKINDLED QUINTESSENCE :

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You immediately retrain your class to that of a sorcerer with

the draconic bloodline, with your draconic exemplar matching
your bound dragon. You are able to cast spells immediately
as if you had a full 8 hours of rest and completed your daily
preparations; however, you become drained 2 from the strain
of igniting your soul’s magical potential.

Once the contract invested, the character has all the levels from the ancient class that become levels of the sorcerer ?

Thanks for the future answer.

Liberty's Edge

Retrain your class...

How do we even do this?


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1) Somebody copied and pasted from another breath weapon most likely.
2) GM Discretion. I think the bestowed gifts section in Treasure Vault (p.166) would provide the best guidance.
3) Yes. You rebuild your character as a Sorcerer with the draconic bloodline tied to the dragon in question. I would use the rules for Rebuilding a character found on Lorespire.

Edit: Upon rereading the linked section, it's not as helpful as I thought. The text of the "Career Change" boon that cam be found in The Achievement Points and Boon sections of the Pathfinder Society faq page is what you're looking for.

To summarize, in such a rebuild a character's Ancestry, Background, and Heritage should remain the same, but pretty much all other character building choices could be changed, including the allocation of attribute boosts. Unlike in Society play, providing a rebuild of items might be impractical, but having the dragon claim some of the character's old gear and provide suitable replacements is a good work around.

Were I your GM, I *might* also consider letting a player making these decisions change their heritage to dragonblood, but that'd be a house ruling on my part.


I don't understand the choice for the breath for the draconic bloodline.

The mocking dragon has a breath with laughing gaz or slippery bloodine, and for the bloodline, it is a cone of bludgeoning.
The time dragon has a breath with an slowed effect and the bloddline has a cone of force.
The vorpal has no breath and for the bloodline,it is a cone of void.

Is it possible for a vizier dragon to use the words abilities with the pact of the herald and host ?

Quote:

Once per day, from any distance, your bound dragon can

choose to take control of your voice. They dictate everything you
say (or don’t say) for up to 10 minutes. They can choose to speak
in any language you or they know, though they can’t use your
voice to cast spells or activate items.


Waldham wrote:

I don't understand the choice for the breath for the draconic bloodline.

The mocking dragon has a breath with laughing gaz or slippery bloodine, and for the bloodline, it is a cone of bludgeoning.
The time dragon has a breath with an slowed effect and the bloddline has a cone of force.
The vorpal has no breath and for the bloodline,it is a cone of void.

Is it possible for a vizier dragon to use the words abilities with the pact of the herald and host ?

Quote:

Once per day, from any distance, your bound dragon can

choose to take control of your voice. They dictate everything you
say (or don’t say) for up to 10 minutes. They can choose to speak
in any language you or they know, though they can’t use your
voice to cast spells or activate items.

Vorpal Dragons do have a breath weapon, they just inhale instead of exhaling. Vorpal Dragonbloods do likewise. As for the others... Player abilities that grant breath weapons all have to follow a much stricter format than dragon breath weapons do. That's also why dragons who have burst breath weapons still give cones or lines.

If I had to invent lore for the other two drwgons you mentioned...
1) Mocking Dragonbloods still expel a viscous fluid, but not with the same degree of control that lets Mocking Dragons set up Pratfalls. So they get a bludgeoning breath weapon similar to a sea dragon.
2) The weak temporal effect of a Time Dragonblood's breath weapon is uneven, causing somw degree of sheering if the enemy can't overpower the dragonblood's will.

No, a vizier dragon's abilities require the target to be close to the dragon and likely require the dragon to use their own voice. Pact of Herald and Host uses the Herald's voice.

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