Does idealize stack with powerful change from BFT?

[Maniacwyrm]

So if I get the arcane discovery exploit at level 20 say from retraining or using a mythic feat to take extra exploit or just vmc wizard, does this mean my animal enhancement bonuses will be a +10(+4(normal)+4(transmutation supremacy)+2(idealize))?

[Melkiador]

They are untyped bonuses, so they should all stack. It’s not a bad combo, but hardly game breaking.

And there are unfortunately a lot of practical issues with playing the BFT. Teammates surprisingly don’t want new forms that often and a lot of the bigger forms aren’t great for exploratory adventuring.

[Belafon]

You might get +4 from idealize, but make sure you clarify with your GM. You only count as half your arcanist levels for determining if you qualify for the discovery, but apparently full levels for determining the effects of the discovery.

I played a Brown-Fur Transmuter for a short time. It’s definitely a much better class if you discuss what you are capable of doing with your party before any of you build characters. My big “gimmick” was quickened enlarge person (thanks to Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter.”

But there are plenty of useful spells: fey form, monstrous physique, and undead anatomy. They all give a whole bunch of abilities and, unlike beast shape or plant shape, you get to keep using your weapons and armor.

Others don’t give a stat bonus but are useful personal range transmutations:
Overland flight
long arm
gravity bow
transformation
Mage’s lucubration is good if you have other prep casters in your party.

[Maniacwyrm]

Belafon wrote:

You might get +4 from idealize, but make sure you clarify with your GM. You only count as half your arcanist levels for determining if you qualify for the discovery, but apparently full levels for determining the effects of the discovery.

I played a Brown-Fur Transmuter for a short time. It’s definitely a much better class if you discuss what you are capable of doing with your party before any of you build characters. My big “gimmick” was quickened enlarge person (thanks to Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter.”

But there are plenty of useful spells: fey form, monstrous physique, and undead anatomy. They all give a whole bunch of abilities and, unlike beast shape or plant shape, you get to keep using your weapons and armor.

Others don’t give a stat bonus but are useful personal range transmutations:
Overland flight
long arm
gravity bow
transformation
Mage’s lucubration is good if you have other prep casters in your party.

I see well since it a short campaign I will probably be ok.

It’s a +12 with vmc since that gives me actual wizard levels and I qualify as a 20th level wizard in the end I think.
Actually I took bft because i wanted to turn my party into dragons/fey and the powerful change is good with all bonuses. We are probably just going to screw around lmao